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Dh and I moved into our house in the summer of 2005. The couple we bought the house from were a little nutty and in the process of getting a divorce. Moving in ended up to be a huge mess around because they left the house packed with 15 years worth of filth and garbage and a pile of trash so big outside that we were slapped with a citation before we even had the chance to move in!<br><br>
Anyway, the fun just doesn't end because a few months ago we started getting calls for "Kim." At first I thought they were just run of the mill wrong numbers but I soon realized that they were for the previous owner. Which is weird because obviously the phone number didn't come with the house...<br><br>
Fast forward to the present and the calls are increasing. Dh grilled one of the last callers who admitted they were a bill collector and got our number through a PI using Kim's address, which she last reported as OUR address in August 2006--a full year after we moved in.<br><br>
Yesterday, another call from "An, ummm...potential relative of, ummm... a Kim (pause) mispronunciationoflastname." Followed by a questioning about our address and if she'd ever lived here. Another PI??<br><br>
We are on the no call list and this is highly annoying. I am afraid that we are going to be bugged by the previous owners for the rest of our life! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">: I have a cell phone and home phone number that she gave us at closing and I'm tempted to start passing it out but I don't know if that will even do us any good. And who even knows if it's still valid.<br><br>
Is it illegal for her to be using our address? Do I have any way to stop this? Any ideas?
 

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i had this problem. they were looking for 'alfredo diaz' at one of my apartments. god, i'd like to throw a shoe at that guy, for whoever he pissed off disturbed many a nap at my house.<br><br>
i just started getting really really curt. i asked for their name and company and let them know that no, alfredo did NOT live here, and yes, i would be informing the attorney general's office if i heard from them again.<br><br>
honestly, it may have worked, but we only lived there for ten months anyway. i think that we were assigned his old phone number. they never wanted to believe that he wasn't there.
 

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ok that is just wierd.<br><br>
When we moved in here we were getting tons of calls from bill collectors for whoever had the number before us. It's annoying.
 

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If it were me, I would pass out the numbers. It's a huge PITA for you, but when you get these calls tell the person that you have lived there for xx years now, so you don't know if the numbers are valid any longer, but this was the contact info for Kim at the time of closing.<br><br>
Then suggest they contact the PI and give him those numbers, so he can track her forward that way, possibly via the phone company. I hope they didn't pay him a lot of money, doesn't sound like he did a very thorough job of tracking her down. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br>
Also, call the phone company yourself. Explain what's going on and hopefully there is something they can do.<br><br>
Ironically, about a year ago we started getting calls for someone named Kim. Turns out her new phone number was like one digit off of ours, and she gave a whole bunch of people the wrong number. I called the phone company, explained what had happened, and I believe they contacted her (privacy laws prevented them from giving me her number) and let her know what was going on. The calls stopped shortly after that.<br><br>
I hope this gets resolved quickly and easily for you. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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How do I send a letter though? Are they required to give me their address if I ask? Since they are lying now, claiming to be "long lost relatives" I have a feeling they will just hang up or lie.<br><br>
I'm worried that this will escalate to PIs driving by??? Observing us? I don't know what the heck she owes but I figure it must be pretty substantial if they are willing to shell out money to track her down. Probably not an overdue fee from Blockbuster <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
Man, I sort of understand getting calls for the previous owner of the phone number (I'm sure it sucks just as much!!) but it's totally creepy that they tracked down OUR phone number for the previous homeowner <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">:
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">How do I send a letter though? Are they required to give me their address if I ask? Since they are lying now, claiming to be "long lost relatives" I have a feeling they will just hang up or lie.</div>
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I'd mess with them. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> For a little while, at least, then get serious. If they claimed to be my long lost relative, I'd be like "OMG, Uncle Herb, IS THAT YOU????".<br><br>
I had this happen once and I messed around with them for a little while, until the guy showed up on my door step at 10 oclock at night to serve me with papers. Of course I refused, because I clearly was not who they were looking for. He asked for "proof" (drivers license, SSN) which I was not obligated by law to produce, but I showed him an envelope of junk mail with my name on it, and he apologized. He asked why, if I was telling the truth all along, I didn't just offer to "prove" my identity before, and I told him that if they wanted to waste my time by HARASSING me, that I'd waste his time back. Then I thanked him for visiting me on the other side of town, in the pouring rain, at 10 oclock at night, and slammed the door in his face. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/mischievous.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="mischief"><br><br>
As for getting an address, you can simply say "if you give me your address/fax number, I will forward you proof of my identity so you don't continue to waste your time". They'll think you're helping them, and then you can send a letter. There are template letters all over the internet for getting these people to back off, but basically, all you have to do is put in writing that who they think you are, you are not, then sign it.
 

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Every now and then I get calls for bill collectors- there is someone with my same name who seems to not pay anything. They just look for my firstname,last name in the phone book. They say are these the last 4 of your ssn, I say no. I don't know who that is, but it's not me. Strange thing is this person apparently has a brother with the same name as dh- so it's even more confusing.<br><br>
If you tell them to stop calling- they have the wrong number, confirm the info- they'll usually stop. Good luck.
 

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I had this same problem at my old apartment. We would get collection agencies calling for *everyone else* in the complex because we were the only household with a listed phone number at that address. (We all had the same street address, but were apartments 1-6) It was incredibly annoying. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/hug2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Hug2"> I know how frustrating it can be.
 

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Tell the biller collectors that she doesn't live there anymore and offer them the numbers you have for her. They should probably leave you alone after that. It isn't legal for her to continue to use your address. What's probably happening is you are the last known address that shows up for her in a lexis search and therefore your the first number they call.
 

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We went through a delightful time for a while when we lived in student housing. The numbers are assigned to the room, so they can't be changed, and the person who lived there before me at some point had the same first name (imagine that <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> ), but also had a son the same name as my dh. Her last name was also very close to my maiden name. It sucked. Since we were on campus, they always assumed I was just lying.
 

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Yes, it is illegal for her to use your address.<br><br>
Start making a record. Get the person you are talking to name, company name, and end each call with if you call my home again I will get my lawyer involved.
 

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I would NOT give out Kim's phone numbers. If they get any information out of you, they are just going to double their efforts in trying to get MORE info out of you. (BTDT)<br><br>
What I finally did, after months of annoyance, was to say, "Okay, I'm legally obligated to tell you that I'm recording this. I have lived at this residence with this phone number for X length of time, and since I've been here, Kim has lived someplace else. I need your name, the name of the company you work for or represent, and contact information."<br><br>
This WORKED. (Nothing else did.) One by one, the creditors, etc. stopped calling.<br><br>
To record calls, just press RECORD on your answering machine.
 

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"Kim doesn't live here. We bought this house from her a year ago. I have a number for her that we received at closing, if you'd like that, but in any case you need to stop calling here. Call again, knowing now that she doesn't live here, and I will seek legal counsel because after this, it's harassment." Follow up with a letter, sent certified & return receipt requested.<br><br>
"Dear [name],<br>
Kim [lastname] hasn't lived at [address] since [date], when we bought the house from her. The phone numbers we were given for her at the time are [#] and [#]. If I receive any further contact from you I will seek legal counsel and pursue harassment charges. Please update your records with the numbers I have given you.<br><br>
Sincerely,<br>
[StrawberryFields]<br><br>
CC: [all the people who've contacted you looking for her]"
 

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I would first get the collector's name, phone number and address and then I would tell them that Kim no longer lives here and hasn't since so and so date. I would then say, "if you call me again I will report you to the FTC". I had a similar issue and did exactly that and the collector got angry and I just repeated it and hung up. They never called back.<br><br><a href="http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/credit/fdc.shtm" target="_blank">http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/credit/fdc.shtm</a><br><br>
Oh, and apparently using a false name is illegal. There is an online complaint form you can fill out if you want. (ftc.gov)
 

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Thank you all for the info! Now I can only hope that these places will really give me an address when I ask so I can write to them. What a pain. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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We have been harrassed on a daily basis for 7 months by bill collectors looking for the man who last had our phone number. No advice because I haven't figured out how to solve this problem yet myself!<br><br>
I haven't been able to send cease and desist letters because the callers refuse to give their name/number to anyone but the person they are calling for and since he isn't there they just hang up on me (and call back later). I explain to them that we moved in Sept. and got this as our new number and they act understanding but they still keep calling. It's a real snarl. We recently got a call from a bank and they said he just gave our number as his own last month when signing up for an account. (And since the bank called I am assuming he bounced checks, which means MORE bill collectors calling us for him, I bet.)<br><br>
I have daydreams about what I'd like to do to this dude if ever run into him. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/soapbox.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="soapbox">
 

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Btw, I wouldn't give them Kim's contact info. Just because they're evil <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 
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