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THE PRESIDENT: Hold on for a second, please. Excuse me. Excuse me. No president wants war. Everything you may have heard is that, but it's just simply not true. My attitude about the defense of this country changed on September the 11th. When we got attacked, I vowed then and there to use every asset at my disposal to protect the American people. Our foreign policy changed on that day, Helen. You know, we used to think we were secure because of oceans and previous diplomacy. But we realized on September the 11th, 2001, that killers could destroy innocent life, and I'm never going to forget it, and I'm never going to forget the vow I made to the American people, that we will do everything in our power to protect our people.<br><br><br></td>
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<a href="http:" target="_blank">Bush Sparkles in Ideological Performance</a> It's about time it put her in her place.
 

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No more shell games at least....<br><br>
"QUESTION: It was: Will there come a day -- and I'm not asking you when; I'm not asking for a timetable -- will there come a day when there will be <b>no more American forces in Iraq</b>?<br><br>
"BUSH: That, of course, is an objective. And that will be decided by <b>future presidents</b> and future governments of Iraq."<br><br>
From:<br><a href="http://www.ktvu.com/news/8164483/detail.html" target="_blank">http://www.ktvu.com/news/8164483/detail.html</a>
 

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too bad about all the people who will die because they lied to us about how safe the air near the wtc was. it is likely that more people will die over the years from that than the attacks themselves. they could have protected us then, but didn't. they could help us now, but they won't.
 

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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">THE PRESIDENT: Hold on for a second, please. Excuse me. Excuse me. No president wants war. Everything you may have heard is that, but it's just simply not true. My attitude about the defense of this country changed on September the 11th. When we got attacked, I vowed then and there to use every asset at my disposal to protect the American people. Our foreign policy changed on that day, Helen. You know, we used to think we were secure because of oceans and previous diplomacy. But we realized on September the 11th, 2001, that killers could destroy innocent life, and I'm never going to forget it, and I'm never going to forget the vow I made to the American people, that we will do everything in our power to protect our people.</td>
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Now if someone would just explain what the war in Iraq has to do with 9/11.
 

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I really loved this exchange with Carl Cameron from Fox News:<br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">I think during these difficult times -- and they are difficult when we're at war -- the American people expect there to be a honest and open debate without needless partisanship. And that's how I view it. I did notice that nobody from the Democrat Party has actually stood up and called for <b>getting rid of the terrorist surveillance program</b>. You know, if that's what they believe, if people in the party believe that, then they ought to stand up and say it. They ought to stand up and say the tools we're using to protect the American people shouldn't be used. They ought to take their message to the people and say, vote for me, I promise we're not going to have a terrorist surveillance program. That's what they ought to be doing. That's part of what is an open and honest debate.</td>
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He needs to stop giving the Democrats strategery or they just *might* win in November.
 

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One trembles at the decline of education in the United States, at least on the Right. The president has authorized illegal wiretaps, an impeachable offense that has been criticized both on the left and the right. But this guy is claiming that these people don't want a terrorist surveillance program at all, as though such a program would not be possible if the president is forced to follow the law. Honest debate? This is just partisan spin. Man's either deeply ignorant or he's a manipulative liar.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Now if someone would just explain what the war in Iraq has to do with 9/11.</div>
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Yeah, I loved it too, I laughed my head off. What a ridiculous load of crap. I was driving in my car and yelling "oh! unbelieveable!" at intervals and my son was in the back seat yelling "Oh!" and "Crap!" with me.<br><br>
Okay, maybe the part about teaching the three year old to say crap wasn't so great.<br><br>
Oh, and also, maybe it wasn't that great to be laughing at the leader of the free world for the utterly nonsensical things he was saying. Yeah, I guess that actually if I had been in touch with how bad things are instead of how ABSURD they are, I might have been crying.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Honest debate? This is just partisan spin. Man's either deeply ignorant or he's a manipulative liar.</div>
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Wants his photo in the dictionary next to the word "chutzpah."<br><br>
Remember, this is the same administration that ignored all the available intelligence that would have warned them about 9/11. Then they rode the wave of fear after 9/11 to expand their claims to spy on US citizens.<br><br>
But they didn't have enough Arabic-speaking staff in the surveillance agencies to understand the intelligence in 2001! And they ignored warnings at every level! Why the heck should they get the right to spy on us when they couldn't even use the intelligence they collected before to prevent terrorist activities!
 

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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Yeah, I loved it too, I laughed my head off. What a ridiculous load of crap. I was driving in my car and yelling "oh! unbelieveable!" at intervals and my son was in the back seat yelling "Oh!" and "Crap!" with me.</td>
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After listening to him blither away for about five minutes, my eight year old dd asked my why GWB didn't answer any of the questions people asked him.
 

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If you want to see the transcript, it's <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/21/bush.transcript/" target="_blank">here/</a>.<br><br>
Bush is claiming that his administration has dealt with Katrina. Man, I wonder what they mean when they say "dealt with", you know?
 

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Lovely that he sparkles when he lies. Maybe someone should be on SparkleWatch to see if it happens every time.
 

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I really loved this response about Rumsfeld and I thank the maker there was no 24 hour media at the invasion at Normandy where losses were 2,500 Americans a DAY. Can you just imagine a variety of armchair quarterbacks pontificating how the effort was failing and how incompetent the planners had been? Can you imagine those who "know better" calling for Eisenhower and Marshall to resign in disgrace?<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">No, I don't believe he should resign. I think he's done a fine job of not only conducting two battles, Afghanistan and Iraq, but also transforming our military, which has been a very difficult job inside the Pentagon.<br><br><b>Listen, every war plan looks good on paper until you meet the enemy</b> -- not just the war plan we executed in Iraq, but the war plans that have been executed throughout the history of warfare. In other words, the enemy changes tactics, and we've got to change tactics, too.<br><br>
And no question that we've had to adjust our tactics on the ground. And perhaps the clearest example is in the training of Iraqi security forces. When we got into Iraq, we felt like we needed to train a security force that was capable for defending the country from an outside threat. And then it became apparent that the insurgents and Zarqawi were able to spread their poison and their violence in a ruthless way, and therefore, we had to make sure that the Iraqi forces were able to deal with the internal threat. And we adjusted our tactics and starting spending a lot more time getting the Iraqis up and running, and then embedding our troops with the Iraqis.<br><br>
And it has been a success. But no question about it, we missed sometime as we adjusted our tactics. We had to change our reconstruction strategy. We were -- we thought it made sense, initially, when we went in there to build big, grand projects, which turned out to be targets for the insurgents to blow up. And a better strategy was to be spending reconstruction money at the local level, so that local leaders committed to a peaceful and unified Iraq would benefit. In other words, people would see tangible benefits from an emerging democracy, and the leaders would be viewed as people helping to improve their lives.<br><br>
And so this is a war in which we've changed tactics. It's a war in which we've adjusted and learned lessons in the process of the war.</td>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">I really loved this response about Rumsfeld and I thank the maker there was no 24 hour media at the invasion at Normandy where losses were 2,500 Americans a DAY.</div>
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In the invasion of Western Europe, the Allies faced one of the most formidable fighting forces in the history of mankind. At the time, the U.S. was on a war footing, industry was retooled for the effort, Americans rationed for the war effort and most of all, they knew what they were fighting for. Japan had attacked the nation at Pearl Harbor and its ally Germany soon declared war on the U.S. Both of those countries invaded and controlled great swaths of the world.<br><br>
In the invasion of Iraq, the U.S. and its coalition faced a nation that had been under UN sanctions since '91, didn't have an air force and its government didn't control almost a third of its nation (namely, the Kurdish area). Iraq was no threat to any of its neighbors, let alone being an imminent threat to the U.S. Americans were told a myriad of reasons for the invasion that now appear false.<br><br>
Why is it that Dubya Inc. and so many of its cheerleaders insist on inane, historically bankrupt comparisons to WWII in defense of the Iraq invasion and occupation?<br><br>
Btw, good time to read this call for Rummy to resign, from a real general who served in Iraq:<br><br><b>For his failures, Rumsfeld must go</b><br><br>
"In sum, he has shown himself incompetent strategically, operationally and tactically and is far more than anyone else responsible for what has happened to America's mission in Iraq. Rumsfeld must step down.<br><br>
"In the five years he has presided over the Pentagon, I have seen groupthink become dominant and a growing reluctance by experienced military men and civilians to challenge the notions of the senior leadership.<br><br>
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"Rumsfeld has also failed in terms of operations in Iraq. He rejected the so-called Powell Doctrine of overwhelming force and sent just enough tech-enhanced troops to complete what we called Phase III of the war - ground combat against the uniformed Iraqis. He ignored competent advisers like General Anthony Zinni and others who predicted that the Iraqi forces might melt away, leading to chaos."<br><br>
More here:<br><a href="http://www.iht.com/bin/print_ipub.php?file=/articles/2006/03/19/opinion/edeaton.php" target="_blank">http://www.iht.com/bin/print_ipub.ph...on/edeaton.php</a><br><br>
More on retired Maj. Gen. Eaton here:<br><a href="http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/local/14147079.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/l...l/14147079.htm</a>
 
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