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Well, you'd think after 5 pregnancies, I'd finally develop some confidence of determining fetal position. Nope! I still feel clueless! However, I've been playing around with it since my last prenatal 4 weeks ago and was very curious to go to my appt. today to see how close I was. Guess what? I was dead-on! And, I seriously mean dead-on. My MW's dd was in possible labor today (3rd baby) so I just had her assistant, but she palpated me and determined baby's position to be exactly where I thought (and I didn't bias her), all the way down to the fist in front of baby's face that likes to wiggle a lot right above my pubic area. I'm just tickled that I figured it out! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
The other good news is I'm finally "evening out". After measuring 4-6cm big throughout the entire pregnancy, I was 29cm at my 24 week check and was 30cm today at my 28 week check (I'll be 29 weeks on Saturday). I think it also helped that baby flipped from breech/transverse to vertex and has dropped some.<br><br>
All in all, a good appt! Can't believe I'm starting 2-week appt's now!!
 

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Awesome! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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So cool you were SO right about the position. I had an inkling of what position he was in (same one DS1 was in the last 2 or 3 months of pregnancy), and the U/S I got 2 weeks ago confirmed it. I never would've known with my first, but the midwife at the OB practice I went to told me once, and he stayed in that position. This one's kicks and movements felt exactly the same, but I wasn't completely sure, and I was right too! And he's stayed in that position since then. YAY! (left occiput anterior)<br><br>
That good to hear you're evening out with your measurements. I guess there is definitely only one!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">That good to hear you're evening out with your measurements. I guess there is definitely only one!</div>
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Yep, pretty darn sure about that now. No more freakishly weird popcorn movements, either. I think this babe is ROT today, but sometimes turns ROP. Think he/she was actually OP a couple of weeks ago (all I felt were limbs, no back/butt at all).<br><br>
Gotta love that spinning babies website!!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I think this babe is ROT today, but sometimes turns ROP. Think he/she was actually OP a couple of weeks ago (all I felt were limbs, no back/butt at all).<br><br>
Gotta love that spinning babies website!!</div>
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I love the spinning babies site too! I am pretty positive my babe is ROT or ROP as well.<br><br>
It's SO neat that you can figure it all out by yourself! I wouldn't have had a very good idea except I just had an apt. and the midwife told me where the back was (I felt it) and then I knew where the heart was as well - as well as where I feel kicks (although if she wouldn't have explained it to me, I wouldn't have known what was the butt, head, feet, or arms. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Confused">:<br><br>
So, can baby move to the left side still pretty easily? I'm a bit confused at how much babe moves at this point - I'm happy that baby's head is down, but wish it were on the other side of my belly! Is there a way to help it over there - from what I was reading on spinning babes it seemed that the focus was on OA?
 

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I'm a bit confused about all this...if you can feel the kicks in the lower part of your belly, does that mean that the baby is breech? When I went for an ultrasound, somewhere around 20 weeks, they told me the baby was breech but that it was normal at that time. Since then, I've been a whole lot of movement down below my belly button, and a couple times, something "large" pushed out against my tummy around where my belly button is (a shoulder? a bum?). I still can't figure out what position she's in...
 

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Yeah not necessarily.... my son was a frank breech and his head was right under my ribcage, his back along my right side, and his feet were up by his nose. So I *still* got high kicks even when he was breech. Very confusing. The only thing that clued my MW about it was his big hard melon, which was too hard to be a butt.<br><br>
I'm still confused about my baby's position right now too - I think it's transverse with the head to the left, but I'm not positive. Hopefully my MW will be able to get a better sense of that when I see her on Monday.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'm a bit confused about all this...if you can feel the kicks in the lower part of your belly, does that mean that the baby is breech? When I went for an ultrasound, somewhere around 20 weeks, they told me the baby was breech but that it was normal at that time. Since then, I've been a whole lot of movement down below my belly button, and a couple times, something "large" pushed out against my tummy around where my belly button is (a shoulder? a bum?). I still can't figure out what position she's in...</div>
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Basically, what I feel, is this:<br>
To the left of my belly button, about 3 inches, I always feel big movements, like there's something big there. I can then feel a good 6 inch section, going up and down (butt/back). It's always hard there. On my right side, I feel strong kicks out by my side about level with my belly button (the legs), and feel weird little wiggles down by my cervix (the arms).<br>
Oh, and I was breech at 20 weeks with my first too, and by I think 30/32 weeks (I don't remember exactly when) he went breech and stayed that way.
 

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A breech baby at this point is pretty obvious unless baby is breech AND posterior. But, assuming that's not the case, you would feel a very hard lump right under your ribcage somewhere (head). A head is quite distinguishable from a butt because it's A) very hard and B) doesn't move so well if you try to push it out of the way. A butt wiggles some more, is smaller and softer. It's also more closely connected to another large mass (back) than the head is.<br><br>
For me, this is what I feel:<br><br>
On the right side of my abdomen, I feel a solid mass (back/butt) and this is where we heard the HB today, VERY loudly. I'm feeling bigger kicks on my left (feet/hips) and lots of wiggles down low (hands). I know when I palpate baby's head that I'm poking him/her right in the eyes! I think this is why baby's keeping his/her hands in front of his/her face (protection from me)!<br><br>
If you're feeling kicks low and don't think your baby is breech, remember that your baby has two fists, too, and could simply be punching you! It would be difficult for a breech baby to be kicking you in the cervix at this point because baby is simply too long (16-17"). IMO, if you're feeling biggish movements down low, baby's not breech unless your baby is bent at the knees and toes are pointing down.<br><br>
Large movements "pushing out" usually indicate butt as baby straightens his/her feet. This would indicate "anterior" vs. "posterior" especially if you're not feeling the kicks (as baby would be kicking more towards your back).
 

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Ugh, I must be a doofus b/c I can't for the life of me palpate and figure out what I'm feeling. I tried poking around down near my bladder and all I got are some pops in response. Maybe I just poked baby in the face! Oops!<br><br>
There's definitely nothing under my ribs, but then again, maybe I'm not far enough along to tell, or I'm just carrying really low. Come to think of it, I've never felt any movement above my belly button...<br><br>
I'm with Qerratsmom...I need someone to come palpate my belly!
 

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You're not a doofus - during my first pregnancy I couldn't tell what was what until about 3 weeks before I had her when her feet were suddenly lodged in my ribs. THEN I knew. But she was posterior, so still wasn't sure.<br><br>
Congratulations, Tanya! I wish I had a moon-roof belly or something. I'd really like to know what's going on. I *think* I felt the head a couple nights ago right above my pubic bone. I was reading in bed and getting weird sensations and when I put my book down to feel, there was this round HARD part. It was crazy! So there I was kind of prodding/poking it when it occurred to me that *I* don't like being poked in the head, so I should probably stop. This baby is mostly hanging out on my right. I think I've only felt it on my left maybe twice this whole time? I'm excited for my next appt to find out if I'm right. Mostly, I think the head sits down IN my pelvis because I feel something thunking against my cervix from time to time. And that is NOT comfortable - last night it was startling - I practically leapt (as one can possibly do at 28 weeks) off my birth ball.
 

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No, you're not!! You have to remember, this is my 5th and I'm just now figuring it out! I had ZERO clue with my first, was oblivious with my 2nd, paid more attention with my 3rd due to his breech presentation and previa issues, started learning more with my 4th and have finally, I think, figured it out with my 5th.
 
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