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I'm giving Birth outside the USA and need feedback about GBS treatment

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I posted this on another area, but I'm going to post here too. I'm 38 weeks pregnant right now and have not been tested for GBS but tested positive in my last pregnancy so to be safe I thought I'd just go ahead and get treatment. In searching the internet I found this forum so I'm going to post my question and hopefully might hear some good feedback.

I cannot find the test for GBS here in Honduras where I live. I've called all around. I had my son in the states and received the IV antibiotics during labor. My Ob here is aware of what GBS is, but doesn't seem to be up to speed on the treatment. He first tried to give me oral antibiotics. I declined those. He says that he can give me a shot at the start of labor, but not the IV antibiotics. Can someone tell me if a shot should be just as effective as the IV antibiotics?

I also read that ampicillan and amoxicillin are NOT effective and only penicillin should be used during labor. My Ob mentioned he'd probably use ampicillin but yesterday I told him I wanted penicillin after reading that. Can anyone confirm that only penicillin is effective for GBS treatment? It's terrible I have to educate my Ob about this, but I am in a 3rd world country.

Maybe I should try and find some chlorhexidine and do the wash only and forget about the antibiotics when labor starts since I've also read about babies getting sick from antibiotic resistant bacteria (e coli) due to the GBS treatment to mom received at birth.

I wish I wasn't agonizing about this, but I'm worried about what to do.
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There's a reason other countries aren't worried about this... the US protocol doesn't improve outcomes overall.

-Angela
The IM shot of antibiotics is as effective as running an IV. Many countries, including the one I live in (Switzerland).... don not routinely test for GBS.
For me the certain risks of antibiotic use during labour and birth would far outweigh the very small risk of GBS. I would only even consider antibiotic treatment in the case of heightened risk scenarios such as water broken for a long time (over 24-48 hours). Even then I would most likely decline the antibiotics. It's a personal choice, but I would do a bit more research on the risks and benefits if I were you.
Just because you tested positive in your last pregnancy doesn't mean that you are positive now. In fact, just because you test positive or negative at 36 weeks (which is when the test is normally done) doesn't guarantee that you will be of the same status when you give birth - unless you give birth a few hours after the GBS test!
If you are really concerned you could do the Hibicleans wash, which carries far fewer risks (as far as I'm aware) than the antibiotics.
And PPs are right - many countries (not just 3rd world ones) don't test for GBS since the risks are very low, the risks of treatment are higher and the treatment doesn't necessarily improve outcomes.
Good luck with your decision.
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I wish I could feel as confident as lisabeeprague. I am trying to find peace in not using antibiotics, but why am I so scared too? I flip flop every day. My husband wants me to get the antibiotics. I've done so much research and know the risks of getting antibiotics too, but I'm so freaked out too by the chance of baby getting infected with GBS.

It's terrible that I think in my head...they treat women who have not been tested as positive in the states for a reason - it must be necessary.

I wish I could find the hipclens thing too. Maybe that might make me feel better about skipping the antibiotics. I'm so freaked out by introducing germs and bacteria now that I'm almost there and probably dilating a little I won't even have sex with my husband. Am I the only one that feels that way about sex in the 9th month? I feel like pregnancy has kind of turned me into a hypochondriac.
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Originally Posted by minneapplegirl View Post
It's terrible that I think in my head...they treat women who have not been tested as positive in the states for a reason - it must be necessary.
Remember that MOST OB policies in the US are NOT evidence based.

There's a reason that so many countries that have lower infant and maternal mortality and morbidity rates don't test at all....

-Angela
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
Remember that MOST OB policies in the US are NOT evidence based.
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and that deserves a second
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Honestly, the fact that it's routine in the US would only make me question it & doubt the efficacy of it MORE!

But if you do want to lower the risks of infection more, without IV ABTs, then keep vaginal exams to a bare minimum, do NOT allow them to break your water (even when it's time to push! Babies can be born in their bag of waters).
Even knowing I were positive, I would only consent to ABTs if I ALSO developed another risk factor!:
1. Maternal fever in labor
2. gestation less than 37 weeks
3. PROM more than about 18 hours before birth
4. UTI with GBS
5. Previous baby with GBS]

That's how they manage it in the UK - you have to have TWO risk factors for IV ABTs, and GBS+ swab is only one risk factor. Although I can also tell you that in Japan, there is no set standard - the protocol varies by hospital.
I know this because I deliberately set out to find out how they manage GBS in other countries because maternity care in the US is so bad! Ha! It was DH's idea when I got such conflicting advice on it.

& yes, I'm fairly certain that penicillin is the most effective against the GBS. Although for Moms with a penicillin allergy, other ABTs are given - so I don't think they're worthless! Just not quite as effective as penicillin.
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They don't even test for it here.
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