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We don't vaccinate, what can we do?
 

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Yikes!<br><br>
I have never lived through anything like that.<br><br>
And at a time when so many people go without health insurance, <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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I can't help but think this is a bunch of hype. I mean, really, don't you think it's a little early to be making projections like this? Not to mention there have been quite a few false warnings in the very-recent past. Doesn't stop them from claiming that they're responsible for heading it off somehow - but the truth is, there is an article like this every year...and no pandemic every year...and it isn't like they're actually DOING anything...or like the vaccines actually DO anything for what they're warning against...
 

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Oh, I remember that, Wende. I hope youe guys are right and it is hype. I'll just never leave my house. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 

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I wonder why they keep calling it "bird flu"? I thought all flu originated in birds.<br><br>
Actually, this sounds harsh but 7 million people worldwide is really not that many. I read recently that such "pandemics" cycle through the population every 20 years or so, so actually most of us here HAVE lived through it. And besides, even if you did vaccinate, it wouldn't offer much protection against the virus because it mutates so rapidly. I read somewhere that flu vaccines only protect you about 20% more than no vaccine at all.<br><br>
So relax, wash your hands and take normal precautions. You might get sick but the odds of you dying are really rather slim.
 

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Wash your hands a lot. And, um, don't travel to asia if you are really afraid.<br>
I agree that every year, there is another horrible pandemic about to occur. I stopped stressing about it
 

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Something to think about and ponder...<br><br>
Since viruses change all the time, what makes people think they will be safe with a vax...better yet why does the government suggest you can? If that's the case, why can't we take meds to help with viruses? Or vax against HIV? Keep in mind we probably won't be able to since there are many strands of it...<br><br>
Also, I think this is a hype since people started to realize (old and young) that yes, you can live w/o getting a flu vax (since the shortage). What better way to make your money back than to get everyone scared about a "deadly flu" and get them to rush out and vax themselves (may I mind you against a flu that is a virus that my mutate and change)...
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">What better way to make your money back than to get everyone scared about a "deadly flu" and get them to rush out and vax themselves (may I mind you against a flu that is a virus that my mutate and change)...</div>
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I just said this exact same thing to my DH. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/nod.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="nod">
 

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I don't vaccinate myself, and my kids are not vaccinated either. I'm not worried in the least. I think it's just a lot of hype to get our minds off of other things.
 

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I have never gotten a flu shot. Dd is actually not allowed to even I had thought about it. Her JRA is an "immunity disorder" and that disqualifies her for certain vaccines.<br><br>
Wash hands. Keep that sanitizer in the car for after you visit some crowded public place. Take the kids out of school for a few days if "everbody" seems to be sick. The principal may yell at you but, I did this once last year when i felt the whole building had a hacking cough.
 

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The one and only year I got the Flu vaccine was the one and only time I got the flu so bad I felt like I was dying. Co-ink-i-dink? Maybe. I don't want to try getting a flu vaccine again to find out. I would rather take my chances and probably get a mild case of the flu.
 

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There's a good article on the whole bird flu issue (which is something epidemiologists have been increasingly worried about for several years) in a recent BMJ (British Medical Journal).<br><a href="http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/328/7434/238" target="_blank">http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/conte...l/328/7434/238</a><br><br>
There also was a very interesting feature on this in the NY Times magazine about a month ago...<br><br>
Oh, and yes--the current flu vaccine is for a different virus than the bird flu, which is what WHO is so concerned about.<br><br>
eta: thanks to Elliesmom (below) for a really good, concise synopsis.
 

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It is called "bird flu" because it is primarily carried by birds, and is at this point not transmissable from person to person. In Asia, most cases can be traced back to contact with infected birds (at farms and markets). It is not the same as the influenza viruses that we typically see in the states. It is thought to have about a 75% mortality rate in humans. The big fear is that the virus will mutate in such a way that it will become transmissable from person to person. There was a really interesting article about it in the New York Times magazine a couple weeks ago. It was about CDC epidemiologists trying to do fieldwork in Asia.<br><br>
Not making any assumpations about vaxing, btw. We don't do flu vax at our house. I'm not sure what I'd do if there was an avian flu vax. Just wanted to give some background.<br><br>
Amara'smom: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">. I know this post isn't much help. But I think even in a pandemic our chances of being killed by things other than flu (car accidents etc) are still better than being killed by flu. Is that comforting? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/footinmouth.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="footinmouth"> I need to just stop while I'm ahead.
 

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Yikes. Is it possible that in the course of its mutation to allow transmission from human to human it will become less deadly? Let's hope so.
 
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