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What a nerd. ex wants me to chip in on a bike for 16 yr old ds, which is ok. but when I started asking him if they've looked around for bikes, or how much he thinks they will cost, he started getting angry. I also mentioned that ds has some money in savings ( I don't think it's particularly awful to ask a teen to chip in on a bike).

Ex worked himself all up into a frenzy, trying to list off all of my expenses and insinuating that I am being selfish by not just throwing all my money at the kids for useless crap (not the bike, other stuff).

Right.

He has no idea what my expenses are, and franky it's none of his business. I happen to think it's perfectly reasonable to discuss cost and how we're going to split it, but he's never been able to have a calm discussion with me EVER about ANYTHING, he is always on the attack.

PLUS he has quite a huge chunk of money in the bank from a settlement, so he can easily afford to buy the kids off, which he does regularly.

Yeesh, some people just cannot let go. Thankfully tonight it was just annoying, and didn't make me feel bad.
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Originally Posted by the sunshine
PLUS he has quite a huge chunk of money in the bank from a settlement, so he can easily afford to buy the kids off, which he does regularly.

Yeesh, some people just cannot let go. Thankfully tonight it was just annoying, and didn't make me feel bad.
well no wonder he is annoyed. he is constantly buying his kids off and u buy nothing substantial. u also ask him to chip in for a measely bike! how could u.



on anther note
: 16 years old and you guys still cant 'talk'. yeeesh hope that doesnt happen to us.
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He sounds like my ex.
It's always all about him and his money.
Sorry it sucks.
Men and money....it's so true that there's a problem there, so common that men just are obsessively possessive about "their" money (yet dismissive about other people's money or their obligation to others). Trying to think of a cave man analogy, but no luck


Sorry to hear he's giving you trouble, sunshine, and hope it all gets worked out. Maybe if you say "I have x money to contribute to a bike right now, the rest you'll have to cover or ds will" that will give him less chance to get upset or feel like you're holding back your money from a mutual expenditure. I think it's entirely reasonable to talk about how much it will cost or who will pay...but sometimes if you stick with your bottom line, there's less to negotiate over and it becomes his issue to work around, rather than challenge.

Good luck!
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Originally Posted by Jster
Maybe if you say "I have x money to contribute to a bike right now, the rest you'll have to cover or ds will" that will give him less chance to get upset or feel like you're holding back your money from a mutual expenditure. I think it's entirely reasonable to talk about how much it will cost or who will pay...but sometimes if you stick with your bottom line, there's less to negotiate over and it becomes his issue to work around, rather than challenge.

Good luck!
: I agree with this, it sounds reasonable to me!

If he wants more and won't budge I'd give the money to your DS for his bank account (if you can trust him like that.) Then it's your DS's choice. When I was 16 I wanted a car, not a bike, so your lucky there!
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my stbx is kind of like that. he has a job and i dont and he refuses to help me with our sons yet he wants me to pay his bills.
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Originally Posted by Jster
so common that men just are obsessively possessive about "their" money (yet dismissive about other people's money or their obligation to others). Trying to think of a cave man analogy, but no luck

I think that's b/c cavemen were more civilized.


Seriously, though, it reminds me of Daniel Quinn's book "My Ishmael". He talks about how the idea of locking up food and convincing people they needed to work for it changed society forever. It's been downhill ever since, and now we are at the point where monetary earnings is how many men define themselves.
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Men and money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My ex and I have been seperate for 11 months, almost a year! And do you know what money he has given me.............Can you guess........ $0. And he has bought 2 packs of diaper!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND when he has the kids, he excpects me to bring the diapers too. If I don't bring enough diapers for the whole 2 weeks the kids are down there, he calls me"WHY DIDNT YOU BRING DIAPERS" calls my mom and tells here that she needs to buy diapers
Thats a good one
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The ex and money. **rollseyes** I swear .... I'd better not get started.

I never give him money so he can buy something for the kids. If it is something we are buying together (i.e. a two wheeler for the four year old) then we go buy it together, and each pay half at the register.
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Men and money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My ex and I have been seperate for 11 months, almost a year! And do you know what money he has given me.............Can you guess........ $0. And he has bought 2 packs of diaper!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND when he has the kids, he excpects me to bring the diapers too. If I don't bring enough diapers for the whole 2 weeks the kids are down there, he calls me"WHY DIDNT YOU BRING DIAPERS" calls my mom and tells here that she needs to buy diapers
Thats a good one
Have you tried to sue for child support?
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Have you tried to sue for child support?
I have no money, I have no job, I can't afford daycare for 3 kids
I can't even afford my divorce. I've called 5x lawyers and its around 5k just to file for divorce with kids. Legal aid will not help because I don't have PROOF that he abused me
So, what am I suppose to do. My ex expects me to pull it out of my a**
True love
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Originally Posted by little_candy
I have no money, I have no job, I can't afford daycare for 3 kids
I can't even afford my divorce. I've called 5x lawyers and its around 5k just to file for divorce with kids. Legal aid will not help because I don't have PROOF that he abused me
So, what am I suppose to do. My ex expects me to pull it out of my a**
True love
Perhaps "sue" isn't the right word. There are free ways to get the courts to garnishee his wages for your children's well-deserved child support. I don't know what they are as I haven't been in that position but I've known of people who did it and I know I've read talk of it on the MDC boards. Perhaps that might be a good thread to start. (?)

Sorry to go off-topic.
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littlecandy, you should be able to go to the child support prosecutor's office in your local courthouse and they will file everything for you after an interview. You don't have to prove anything to them except that maybe you're not living with him and they are his kids, which is made even simpler if you're getting some sort of gov't assistance b/c they ask you to prove that to them before helping you.

The prosecutor will then set up any court hearings about the child support on your behalf and you can even get his wages garnished and his tax returns through this office if they file in time.

More on-topic: I understand about the money. My ex wants me to send the kids with everything on the weekends, even tho he made a big deal in mediation about he wasn't "babysitting" he was "parenting". I love it when they use *your* thoughts against you. But, what's happening since then? He's trying to babysit. He doesn't even like feeding them when they're there. I stopped sending clothes with the kids. I told him he can buy himself expensive clothes and wool coats, he can buy his kids clothes to wear when they're at his house. They come back filthy on Sundays, b/c they just wear the same clothes all weekend.
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A few days later he was Mr. Niceynice. He very gallantly informed me that if it cost too much, "he wouldn't make me pay it back all at once".

Oy.
Ya he says that now, but men have a tendancy to rub in it your face every chance you get. Well, at least my ex did.
I think it is perfectly reasonable for you to say "I am willing to spend X amount on money on a bike" and leave it at that. If your ex cannot find a bike in that budget then he can either pay the difference or see if DS is willing to pay the difference. Having your son pay for part of his bike is NOT a bad thing. It is a good think IMO. It will teach him responsibility and about the value of money. He'll be more likely to take good care of it if he helped to pay for it.

My ex thought that our son just had to have an ATV (my DS just turned 3
) I didn't agree so I let ex kow that if it was so important to HIM for DS to have an ATV then he would need to pay for it. He did. You get to choose what you do with your own money and if you'd rather not spend a large amount on a bike then don't. If it is so important to ex that your son havea bike then let ex buy it.

Ex's suck when it comes to money. My ex is a borderline millionaire and still complains about money and tries to get me to pay for half of things. I tell him I'll pay half when the child support checks start rolling in.
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