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I had the worst night trying to install my seats in my 2006 Pontiac Montana. I have NEVER had an ounce of trouble installing my seats before. I thought I was a pro at installing them. Apparantly I needed to be brought down a notch... I spent an hour trying to do it and ended up crying on my couch with not ONE seat installed correctly. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"> I spent a 1/2 hour on my Boulevard alone.<br><br>
Here are my issues.<br><br>
Our captains chairs have latch but our bench in the back does not. We wanted to remove one of our captains chairs so that there would be easier access to the back of the van thus making it easier to get the children in and out of their seats.<br><br>
Here's what I WANTED.<br><br>
Marathon FF'ing rear of van. (For my 33 lb 3 yr old)<br>
Boulevard RF'ing rear of van. (For my 25 lb 20 month old)<br>
Companion RF'ing middle of van. (For my 30 week fetus)<br><br>
I went to install my Marathon with a seat belt which I haven't done in about a year... we've had it installed with latch. I noticed that BOTH of my lock off knobs are broken off!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"> I don't know when this happened or how but they're GONE. I'm wondering if this part can be replaced or if I will need to buy a new seat?? It was manufactured in Feb. 2005. So now my plans were spoiled because I HAD to install that seat in the captains chair with latch.<br><br>
I moved on to the Boulevard (which I've NEVER had to install with a seatbelt) and for 1/2 an hour I tried and TRIED to get the lock off to snap shut but it wouldn't. I couldn't figure out what was wrong. I switched it to the other side and I got it but the install is still a tad loose for my comfort. I than noticed that the plastic end of my seat belt was pushing down on my opposite side lock off (not even sure if that's the correct word!) and bending it. I gave up on that seat and will look at it again tomorrow.<br><br>
I moved on to the Companion and realized that it was impossible to thread the belt through the designated space because there is a plastic "button" on my seatbelt, I assume it's there to prevent the seatbelt from retracting too far but I'm not really sure. So I could NOT install that seat at all unless I use latch. (Unless someone knows if that button can be removed?)<br><br>
By this point I was sweating, swearing & crying. I can't believe all the problems I had!!! Does anybody know if you can buy new seats for a mini van?? DH and I want to buy captains chairs or a bench with latch for the back because it is a million times easier to install a seat with it and I don't know how else to resolve these problems.
 

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I haven't installed with a seatbelt... but I think I may have read that you don't need to use those locking clips in a car that new. The seatbelts should lock I think.<br><br>
good luck!<br><br>
-Angela
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I haven't installed with a seatbelt... but I think I may have read that you don't need to use those locking clips in a car that new. The seatbelts should lock I think.<br><br>
good luck!<br><br>
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REALLY?! Oh wow. I could just die of relief if that is true. My seatbelts do lock. In fact I locked it AFTER I finally sort of got it into the locking clip. Wow. I wish I had known that that was all I had to do!!! My poor sore blistered hands...<br><br>
You pretty much single-handedly solved all my problems. THANK YOU! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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yeah, you don't need a locking clip if you have locking seat belts (sorry to your poor blistered fingers).....<br><br>
but from your post, it sounds like you're talking about the lockers on the Marathon itself (what I call "seat-belt holders"... I have no idea if that's what you're talking about).... the little plastic thingies that hold the seat-belt in place in the back??<br><br>
If that's what's actually causing you trouble, I have a feeling that they're not critical. I don't know everything there is to know about the physics behind the Marathon engineering...... but I have a feeling that those little plastic thingies aren't the end all and be-all.<br><br>
Could you get the seat in tight without them?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">yeah, you don't need a locking clip if you have locking seat belts (sorry to your poor blistered fingers).....<br><br>
but from your post, it sounds like you're talking about the lockers on the Marathon itself (what I call "seat-belt holders"... I have no idea if that's what you're talking about).... the little plastic thingies that hold the seat-belt in place in the back??<br><br>
If that's what's actually causing you trouble, I have a feeling that they're not critical. I don't know everything there is to know about the physics behind the Marathon engineering...... but I have a feeling that those little plastic thingies aren't the end all and be-all.<br><br>
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Yes on the Marathon I'm talking about the ones that are along the upper back of the seat. One on each side.<br><br>
I didn't even try to install that seat with a belt because I thought I couldn't since they were broken off. I really hope I can get a tight install w/o them. I plan on buying a new seat in May anyway but I don't want to HAVE to buy a new seat... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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Yup, you don't need the locking clips <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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You don't have to use the lockoff or locking clip. Just route the belt through, buckle, tighten, then switch your retractors by pulling the belt allllll the way out slowly, and then letting it feed back in.<br><br>
The button can be removed, just get some pliers and pop it off.<br><br>
ETA: With the Blvd, you said the female buckle was hitting the lockoff, right? You can twist the female end up to three full turns to get it out of the way. That will shorten it and you don't have a problem.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">You don't have to use the lockoff or locking clip. Just route the belt through, buckle, tighten, then switch your retractors by pulling the belt allllll the way out slowly, and then letting it feed back in.<br><br>
The button can be removed, just get some pliers and pop it off.<br><br>
ETA: With the Blvd, you said the female buckle was hitting the lockoff, right? You can twist the female end up to three full turns to get it out of the way. That will shorten it and you don't have a problem.</div>
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I was going to call it the female end but I didn't know if that was politically correct. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> Just had to mention that.<br><br>
Thank you everyone! I'm going out right now for round 2. I'll let you know who wins.
 

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LMAO, I feel dirty every time I say or type "female buckle."<br><br>
Good luck!
 

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I hope you got it figured out now. Just wanted to chime in w/ I borrowed my grandma's Pontiac Montana while my car was in the shop about 5 years ago and it was pure hell installing a carseat in that thing. I HATED it! I don't understand why any car manufacturer would make a mini-van that is hard to install carseats in! It makes no sense to me!
 

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Hmmm....I <3 my 2001 Chevy Venture, which is the same as the Montana...it's easy to install seats in.
 

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Well you'll all be happy to know that I came out on top. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
Here are a couple of pictures of the arrangement now. Does anyone know if my FF'ing DS would be safer behind the captains chair or does it not matter??<br><br><a href="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/darcedarce/100_6680.jpg" target="_blank">http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...e/100_6680.jpg</a><br><br><a href="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/darcedarce/100_6679.jpg" target="_blank">http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...e/100_6679.jpg</a><br><br>
DS1 approved of the new arrangement as you can <a href="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/darcedarce/100_6681.jpg" target="_blank">see</a>.<br><br>
DS2 <a href="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/darcedarce/100_6683.jpg" target="_blank">not</a> so much. He was just mad though because he gets that way when he has to be in his carseat PERIOD.<br><br>
I never planned on installing the infant seat so early in the pregnancy but I'm glad I did it now because who knows how hard it would've been when I am even bigger.<br><br>
Thank you so much for the help!! It was MUCH easier once I knew about the seatbelts. It IS a lot harder to do than with latch though. I guess I got spoiled up until now.
 

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I would store the LATCH clips on the Blvd, and tether it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Also, the infant seat looks too upright for a nb--you will want it at the 45* angle for a newbie. Other than that, it looks great!<br><br>
ETA: are your DS1's shoulders below the straps?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I would store the LATCH clips on the Blvd, and tether it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Also, the infant seat looks too upright for a nb--you will want it at the 45* angle for a newbie. Other than that, it looks great!<br><br>
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It's tethered & snugged. Both of them are. I thought the red line had to be parallel to the floor on the companion?<br><br>
I've actually always wondered WHERE I'm supposed to store the latch clips at. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/headscratch.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="headscratch"> I've never figured it out.
 

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I just looked at the picture and it probably doesn't look tethered to you because our anchor is actually on the back of the captains chair.<br><br>
DS's seat is missing a neck protector (?) and the crotch strap because I had them in the house being cleaned. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
Here is a close up of the shoulder. It was just slightly below the slot.<br><br><a href="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/darcedarce/100_6682.jpg" target="_blank">http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...e/100_6682.jpg</a><br><br>
Should it be moved up? I figured it was once his shoulder was a little bit over the hole but what do I know?
 

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I would move them up.<br><br>
As far as the bucket, can you post a pic of the infant seat from directly from the side? It's hard to tell at that angle, since you can't see exactly where the back of the seat lies, but it looks a bit upright.<br><br>
I'm glad the seat is tethered. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> If you lift up the side of the cover, there are pockets on the inside of the cover to store the LATCH clips <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I would move them up.<br><br>
As far as the bucket, can you post a pic of the infant seat from directly from the side? It's hard to tell at that angle, since you can't see exactly where the back of the seat lies, but it looks a bit upright.<br><br>
I'm glad the seat is tethered. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> If you lift up the side of the cover, there are pockets on the inside of the cover to store the LATCH clips <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"></div>
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Sure I'll take a pic tomorrow!<br><br>
Wow, I never knew that about the pockets. 2 years of owning the seat... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> I've even cleaned it a few times.<br><br>
Does the marathon have the pockets as well? It was manufactured in 05
 

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Yes the MA will have the pockets <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Mine does, and it's a 2003. I didn't know they exsisted either until a tech friend of mine pointed it out <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Only some of the Marathons have pockets. It depends on the cover. Apparently Britax decided only some covers get them. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: If the cover doesn't have pockets, the shell actually has little cubbies (in the butt area under the cover) to store the connectors in when not in use). Just so no one gets confused when another Marathon owner claims they don't have them.
 

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Wow thanks for that info! I didn't know that! You didn't take the styrofoam out of the those 'cubbies' did you?
 
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