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I have been adamantly against giving my kids formula thus far; DS #1, now 3yrs was exclusively breastfed and continues to nurse - practising child led weaning. DS#2, now 6 weeks has been exclusively breast fed with the plan to let him nurse as long as he wants.<br><br>
However, I've heard of pro-bf mom's who sometimes have to supplement with formula for various reasons, and I also have a friend who gives her babe (now 4 months) one bottle of formula before bed and her babe sleeps on average, 7 hrs a night.<br><br>
In my current sleep deprived mom-of-a-newborn state, 7hrs of sleep sounds pretty darn appealing...it is making me wonder if 1 bottle before bed is "really so bad..." however I know that in my normal frame of mind, (i.e. before new baby was born) I read all kinds of horrible things about formula that made me feel glad my babes had/would never have a drop of the stuff.<br><br>
I know this is a bf forum and maybe this shouldn't be posted here, but I was curious what other pro-bf mom's think of this, (occasional bottle of formula). I am sure on a mainstream forum I would get a different opinion than I will get here. I am very pro-bf, and I know it's best, I don't plan to "switch" to formula (*shudder*) but would it be so awful to give a bottle of formula now and then if it helps babe sleep longer and keep me sane?<br><br>
I know it's not "poison"; lots of kids are brought up on the stuff, (me included). Anyone have any experience with this in a bf babe?<br><br>
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Personally I wouldn't do it, but if your body is telling you you need more rest, I would find SOME way to make that happen. Adding formula at this stage could just be a headache, cause problems and complications with your supply and so forth. It could backfire and cause the baby indigestion which just keeps everyone up even longer. There must be another way for you to get the rest you need. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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I have a friend who FF her daughter, and formula did NOT make her sleep! She would be up for hours at night and it was just how she was wired.<br><br>
That said, yes, one occasional bottle can mess things up, I wouldn't recommend it. And, there are more ways to get sleep... are you cosleeping or at least nursing in bed? Are there things you can do during the day to cut corners until your babe is sleeping better at night?
 

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IMHO it is a very slippery slope to start a bottle of formula. My SIL did that and ended up using a bottle when she'd go out, then one more here and there if she was busy and well, her son "self weaned" at 9 months. That is just my one story though. I did have to supplement at the beginnigng with DD. I was given a med that made my milk dry up and she was very jaundiced...so with that combo I did give formula. I always nursed first though.<br><br>
There are no garantees that the babe will sleep for 7 hours if you do give formula either. Could you maybe express a bottle and have your partner take one feeding at the night so you can get some sleep?
 

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It can be tempting. Here are some reasons not to do it<br>
1) it does not guaruntee sleep<br>
2) it can mess up your babes gut<br>
3) it can mess up your supply<br>
4) bottles can cause nipple confusion/preference<br>
5) it can become a habit<br><br>
The good news is that you are at the end of the newborn stage, and hopefully things will get a little more settled. Good luck.
 

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Here's some info I found on "just one bottle" <a href="http://www.massbfc.org/formula/bottle.html" target="_blank">http://www.massbfc.org/formula/bottle.html</a><br><br>
I can understand sleep deprived. Having 2 ff babies and 1 breastfed baby. I don't think sleep has much to do with what you feed your baby. My older kids I believe slept through the night a little younger than my bf baby, but not dramatically younger.
 

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My first son could not nurse because of his cleft. I pumped, but he did have some formula, especially in the last few months of his first year. I intensely hate that fact and would never intentionally choose formula.<br><br>
As pp have said, it doesn't guarantee sleep, can mess up the gut, eating habits, and the nursing relationship.
 

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My DS was FF'ed (unfortunately) and knowing what I know now I'll never give another child formula. Breastmilk is what babies are born to be fed so that's why I think formula is not what my future children will ever have. Don't but into the whole your baby will sleep better idea.....my DD is bf'ed and sleeps 8-10hours a night! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> So I don't think it has anything to do with what they're fed. My MIL just said to me yesterday after talking about how much DD sleeps...."She's just content on the breastmilk, fills her up better" I was thinking, DS slept just as good on formula. So every baby is different....as for me, I think I just have lazy kids, lol.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/yeahthat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="yeah that">: I was "sort of" cosleeping ... dd in a "cosleeper" bassinette, but once that sleep deprivation kicked in, I started putting her in the cosleeper to start but once she woke, I'd just bring her into bed with me and let her nurse to her heart's content and I'd go back to sleep. It worked for us... I was soooo much more rested after just a few days of this. I agree it takes a bit to get used to having a little heat-seeking missile of a child next to you, and I would sort of half-wake and make sure her face wasn't covered, but I still got FAR more sleep and was much happier after I started cosleeping full time (or mostly full time).
 

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My daughter is unfortunitily FF (long story)) but I would NOT recommend giving formula because it could hurt your babies tummy. My daughter has to be on hypoallergic formula and could not tolorate just any formula. You've gotten some great idea's, cosleeping helps alot!!. Also what about pumping enough for an occaisional bottle is you are just wiped out. I hope you are able to get some rest.
 

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My kids had breastmilk and formula. My first child was healthy and she did not sleep any better with formula. My second dd has health problems and her life is being saved with formula right now-- but it's medical formula-- not meant for the average baby or child.<br><br>
I think regular infant formula is really rough on a baby's tummy, lacks a lot of good stuff, but it is adequate to grow a baby on. Not the best, but adequate. It's probably like having an Intant Breakfast intead of a pancake, eggs, and fruit. Both will give you nutrition and vitamins, but the pancake breakfast is so very much better for you.
 

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I am currently tandem nursing and understand lack of sleep. I have never given formula but I did hire a sitter to take out my toddler, so I can rest. I have her come once or twice a week for a couple of hours, the best $20-40 I have spent....is that an option for you? (I think it would be cheaper than buying formula)
 

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I think it is just a difference between different children. My first never slept more than 4 hours at a stretch until he was 13 months old. My newest babe, who is the same age as yours, has slept up to 6 hours at a stretch (several times, even). Neither of them have ever had any formula.<br><br>
I am all for people getting sleep and if you are going insane, you definitely have to do something. But, like pp have said... formula is a slippery slope and may cause more tummy troubles than you think. Also, I find that when my kids have slept longer, my body isn't used to it, and I wind up waking up because my breasts are uncomfortable. So, while baby sleeping longer sounds wonderful, it usually doesn't wind up being as great as I think it will be...<br><br>
Good luck, and do something to take care of you!!!
 

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I read an article once that pointed out all the fallacies of formula/feeding solids before bedtime make infants sleep longer. It is a total myth and coincidence for those who do experience it. (I think it was in Mothering, lol).<br>
I have found, also that if I take the time to eat well, the sleep deprivation doesn't affect me as much. (Which I know is hard with young children and newborns). But it really does help! Can you pull them into bed during the day for an "everyone" nap? Just some thoughts...
 

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My first dd, EBF, slept 10 hours straight at 8 weeks old.<br><br>
My second dd, formula fed after 3 months didn't sleep through the night until 7 months old and is still by far my worst sleeper.<br><br>
Ds, 8 months old, EBF and is up 1-2x a night at 8 months.<br><br>
Formula did nothing for my dd, neither did starting solids, or anything else everyone says will make your kid sleep better.<br><br>
I wouldn't do it. I've been reading too much about throwing off the natural balance of a babies gut that I won't do formula.
 

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I can completely empathize with you!!! I'm nursing DS @ 18 mos and due w/ DD this Sept and the potential lack of sleep is my #1 concern. I still have vivid memories of sleep deprivation from DS... These are some of the suggestions I've rec'd and plan to implement as needed...<br><br>
Because I had to return to work, I had to introduce a bottle and it posed no problems for my DS. Instead of formula, would it be a possiblity for you to pump a bottle of breastmilk and have your hubby feed your baby? You could do a last feed @ say 8 or 9 pm and go right to bed, and then have hubby do the next feed. That way you could avoid the formula issue and would only miss 1 feeding - as long as you didn't do it for several nights in a row, I would think it wouldn't impact your supply. On a regular basis though, I'm sure it could comprimise your supply, so you'd have to pay close attention.<br><br>
Have a friend or relative come over for a "play date" and keep your little ones occupied so you can take a nap. If you can afford it, pay a babysitter.<br><br>
Go to bed early - right after dinner if possible - the more hours spent in bed = the more sleep you'll end up getting.<br><br>
Co-sleep (safely of course) - My DS slept in a cradle next to our bed, but because of latching issues this didn't help significantly for me. But, with #2 I'm planning on using a co-sleeper, I'm much better at nursing lying down, and because I'm still nursing #1, I'm hoping the latch problems I had won't be as much of an issue.<br><br>
Above all, remember this is temporary. When you feel like you're loosing your mind take a tape measure. Have hubby hold one end and measure out 100 inches. If each inch = a year, assume your baby's lifespan would = that 100 inches. Now realize how short of a time 2, 3, or 6 months are... even a year (an inch!)... A pastor reminded me of the bible verse about how there is a time for every season. Even as tired as I was, I would sit nursing at 3:00 am and mentally remind myself that this was the time for this season, and very soon it would pass. Those 3:00 am feedings became precious quiet time with my little one.<br><br>
Good luck and God Bless!<br>
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Formula does not necessarily make your child sleep longer. My dd has never had formula and had breast milk her first 14 months of life only. She has always been a "fantastic sleeper." Meaning since she was 10 weeks old she slept 10-12 hours straight at night. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug">
 

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I wouldn't give formula unless I absolutely had to do so.<br><br>
There actually is no documented proof that formula helps a child sleep longer<br><a href="http://www.kellymom.com/parenting/sleep/sleep.html#formula" target="_blank">See this article for more info</a><br><br>
Even a single bottle of formula changes the gut of the infant. <a href="http://www.childthai.org/ciec/c011.htm" target="_blank">Here is some more info you should read.</a>
 

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No, it's not that bad - formula's not as good as breastmilk, but its good enough.<br><br>
I've given all my babies a bottle of formula before bed from when they were 4-6 months old, and it has seemed to help them sleep longer.
 
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