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I am confused about my ODD's symptoms because she has alot of symptoms of both asperger's and ADHD but has only been diagnosed by one doc with ADHD but it's gotten TONS worse since she got a flu shot this past winter.<br><br>
She use to be an A/B student and now she is fighting to stay above a passing grade, she forgets everything, fights with my DH and I constantly where as before she argued but it was still managable (for us anyway), she rocks back and forth when upset, she refuses to walk upright when going up the stairs, she runs funny and can't take social cues. Like when I am upset with her, she will blow it off and start joking around about something totally off subject and when I bring it back up and ask if she really cares she will say she does but then immediately blow it off again.<br><br>
Ok, am I neurotic or what? LOL These are just a few things just quickly off the top of my head but to those who know for certainty about autisim spectrum, WDYT?
 

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I am of the opinion that many kids are misdiagnosed as ADD or ADHD when they really have autism (well, I am also of the opinion that ADD/ ADHD is autism too). The thing w/ ADD is that the treatments are of the mindset that the child is willfully doing things... if she hits or goes out of control she is manipulating you. Autism says that these behaviors are not under their control. A diagnosis of "autism" or "Asperger's" will get you more help/ services.<br><br>
I would suggest reading "The ADD/ Autism Connection" asap. It's an eye opening book and will probably give you some insight. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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I'm very worried about her because she's done a ton of regressing on many levels.<br><br>
But I am very confused about something else. That teen that is in the news who has autisim and played basketball? You know what I am talking about? They had him on the news several times and he talks normal and acts normal (normal to me anyway). I was under the impression that autistic children didn't talk very much, didn't want to be touched and was sensitive to noises in which this boy was the opposite. Not saying he isn't, I am just confused about what autisim is.<br><br>
BTW, Tiffany's speach has always been above normal, she said her first word at 7 months, started reading at 3 1/2 years old and has always been way ahead of her classmates. Now, after years of honor roll work, she's failing everything, has lost all social cue's, manner's no patience whatsoever, hates loud noises, she will rock back and forth when upset and if we are in public and she is getting a bit unruly and I take her by the arm, she will act as though I am hurting her and has even scream out to let her go that I am hurting her! In public. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/blush.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="blush"><br><br>
Gosh I am frustrated, worried and I don't know what to do anymore. We have lost control and we are lost.<br><br>
Thank you for your replies. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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That kid on the news probably has Asperger's or another form of high functioning autism. Remember, autism is a spectrum disorder. There are ppl at the extreme end (no speech, no social interaction, etc) and ppl at the milder end (good speech, though they may not use it correctly or have difficulty w/ social skills). Asperger's is a social communication disorder. Generally Aspie kids develop speech on time and can often use big words and talk like little professors (know all the names of dinosaurs for example). It's the USE of speech that is their problem. These things can be taught and some kids pick it up well. I suspect that kid on the news (I haven't seen any of it, so I'm speculating here) is very bright and has had good therapy and has been taught good social skills and he can apply what he's been taught.<br><br>
You know all those kids Dave Letterman has on his show? The ones who know all the presidents or state capitols and can answer any question you ask about them? Same kind of thing.<br><br>
The regression would worry me too... I think you both would benefit from some more evals. It sounds like she may have some sensory stuff going on (hating loud noises, etc). Part of her regression could be from sensitivity to something too... bright lights, air freshener in the classroom, etc. She could certainly have a sensory disorder in conjunction w/ any of these diagnoses too.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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Thank you! I am so confused and I am hearing that there is possibly a huge waiting list for this DAN doctor we want to see and that just plunges me further in the feelings of helplessness.<br><br>
Tiffany is one that knows ALOT about whatever she is obsessing with at the time. It use to be lions, then dinosaurs and dragons and now it's horses. She knows every breed out there, every name for the type of run, jump or walk they do. Ugh, it's maddening sometimes because it's always "Horse this and horse that" LOL
 

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Ask the school for an evaluation. They have to give it to you if you ask. Start there. If you want to see the DAN Dr, get on the list, but in the meantime, pursue other things that are more attainable!<br><br>
I'd get away from using your ped as the person who diagnoses your child. They are trained to look specifically for ADD (hence why so many kids get that dx) NOT other things like autism. The symptoms of ADD and autism are remarkably similar, and like I said, ADD doesn't get you much in the way of therapy or treatment, just a script for meds. Autism will get you speech therapy, occupational therapy, etc. Some peds aren't like that, but most are from what I have seen and heard.<br><br>
I know it's overwhelming, but try to take things one step at a time. Get the evals from the school. Read things about Asperger's. Find ways to help your dd relax and calm down and keep control of herself (deep breathing is an easy one!). You can also read the diagnostic criteria for Asperger's and high functioning autism in the meantime too and see if you can see any similarities w/ your dd: <a href="http://www.nichcy.org/pubs/factshe/fs20txt.htm" target="_blank">http://www.nichcy.org/pubs/factshe/fs20txt.htm</a><br><br>
There is an overwhelming amount of information out there so try and take things one at a time. Also, read that book "The ADD/ Autism Connection!" I can't recommend it highly enough! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 

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Is it possible that she has gotten worse since her flu shot b/c it contained mercury??? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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Looks pretty suspicious, doesn't it?<br><br>
Anyway! Guess what ladies? (I am posting this again in it's OWN thread!) but I just got an appt. with a DAN doc for this afternoon! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love">
 

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Have you read the book The Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnosis of Gifted Children and Adults? I found it very enlightening b/c we are in the process of trying to figure out what (if anything) is "wrong" with my dd who has been identified as gifted. We have totally different issues with her (including SID), but your dd's early development makes me wonder if she is intellectually gifted and bored/checking out in school (thus the failing grades and acting out). A number of things can masquerade as others.
 

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[QUOTEHave you read the book The Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnosis of Gifted Children and Adults? I found it very enlightening b/c we are in the process of trying to figure out what (if anything) is "wrong" with my dd who has been identified as gifted. We have totally different issues with her (including SID), but your dd's early development makes me wonder if she is intellectually gifted and bored/checking out in school (thus the failing grades and acting out). A number of things can masquerade as others.][/QUOTE]<br><br>
I have to say I was thinking similiarly. So many gifted kids have SID stuff....
 
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