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We have switched to wool for nighttime exclusively, and also use it during the day a bit as well. (addiction beginning.) However, when ds wakes in the morning(bed DRY for the first time ever) it smells horrendous - all the way through a nighty noodle with a hemp pf inside, to the outside of his organic wool soaker. It is an ammonia smell.<br>
I know this has been covered. But I have limited time today and do not know where to begin to look for the answer, because I know if I do a search for ammonia and smelly dipes I am going to come up with a TON of info that may not help.<br>
Does he just smell like ammonia in the AM from sitting in it for 12 hours? Is it the hemp? Is this normal? Or(GOD NO)do I have a buildup? These dipes are ALL relatively new, and I have been washing in detergent that is NOT free and clear/has no oils. Sometimes I use sportwash and sometimes I use *seventh Generation*<br>
If it is normal, I don't know what I'll do. It smells real real bad! I meant to check and see if the sheets smell now, because if that is the case, I am going to have to get rid of the wool............and I DON"T want to do that. We are finally dry at night! Or someone please tell me it is the hemp. Because I could live without that if I had to.<br>
HELP PLEASE!<br>
Jenn
 

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Ammonia is in urine so it is somewhat normal to smell it in a diaper that has been on for 12 hours. But if it is something that you think is too strong, the urine is burning the skin or your child is showing signs of painful urination it could point to a bladder infection. If you suspect one than you need him to the ped to be checked.
 

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Ammonia is not present in urine until it exits the body and the urea starts to break down. (UNLESS there is a bladder infection or some other condition often present in the elderly.) The more bacteria in the environment, the quicker the urea breaks down into ammonia.<br>
This is a common problem with multilayered hemp diapers. It is due to the hemp being very dense and pourous and thereby retaining bacteria and waste more readily.<br>
I have tried all sorts of products and stripping methods to rid thick hemp of this terrible, burn your nose skunky ammonia smell. Many of them help the problem to be less severe. Products such as Oxygen Bleach, Borox, Bac Out, and routines that include VERY hot water and hanging outside to dry in the sun are helpful. The only thing I've found that truly cleanses the diapers that is not caustic, however, is boiling them at a full boil for 10 or more minutes.<br>
I recently had miraculous results with chlorine bleach- about 1/4 C for a small load of thick hemp items only. Yes, this is the big taboo no no, but it worked for me and I will use it again the next time the diapers become too much to bear. Use at your own risk.
 

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Oh, and I didn't list all the solutions I've tried. Some also have good results with wash routines that include many water changes (1 rinse, two hot washes, 2 or 3 rinses), and some use Mele Power detergent with tea tree oil to help combat this issue. Vinegar in the first rinse does help a little, and I've even seen and tried using lysol all purpose cleaner on the diapers (then rinsing SUPER well). Lots of other ideas floating around as well.<br>
To strip, I recommend either Calgon water softener, RLR Laundry treatment, or Shout Oxy Power. Some like Sport Wash or Sensi-Clean, but it doesn't get the diapers clean enough on its own for me. It does help keep minerals and detergents from building up and compounding stink problems, though.
 

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We also switched to hemp and wool at night and had the EXACT same problem. I tried different detergents, different diapers, different liners, washing the wool after each use. I COULD NOT STAND IT. I switched back to Luke's Drawers Goodnight Kisses and Bunnypatch nightime AIOs. Never had a problem again.
 

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I had this problem when using the hemp, it was awful!! I loved my hemp for like a week then BAM!!! Stinkorama!! I switched back to CPF and my wool and it was much better.
 

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wow this is very depressing. i just had a whiff of amonia last night, and now this post! I refuse to give up my hemp, so boiling diapers may be in my future! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rolleyes">:
 

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Try calgon and super hot water (like maybe turn up the water on wash day) before you boil, it might just be all you need.<br><br>
I think we are all asuming that you already do a second rinse and use just a bit of detergent.<br><br>
How wet is the inside of the wool cover getting? I use cpfs at night and I do occasionally have slightly stinky morning wool but it only seems to happen when dd pees more than normal and the underlying diaper is really wet.
 

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I've only noticed this problem when the diaper is really saturated, so perhaps changing it once during the night would help? (Maybe after baby is asleep and right before you are?) I don't notice it at all during the day, but only on nights when she wets a LOT. I don't think it smells any worse than a stinky poopy though, and quickly drop the diaper in the pail to be washed.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><span style="font-size:xx-small;">edited to correct spelling error</span>
 

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Just a depressing note: Boiling usually works best of all the non caustic cures IME, but not back to the point they were at when new, when it took a whole week or more of use for them to start smelling this way. You'll notice you'll only get maybe 3 uses out of them before they stink bad again.<br>
I can't stand boiling that frequently, it's a majore PITA, so that is why I'm becoming an occasional bleach user on them.
 

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I do a double wash on DS' overnight hemp diapers (Mom and Me Creation's Samuel's Soakers). They get washed with the other cotton diapers in Tide he and then with the fleece and pocket diapers in Sensi-Clean. I can still smell that they are went in the morning, but the smell is not overpowering.
 

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It's my understanding that boiling hemp with snaps (fitteds, AIOs) can have disasterous results. I may be wrong, but I just wanted to put that out there.<br><br>
Being afraid to boil my favorite overnight dipe (a Liz's AIO) I've found that diligence in drying pays off (dryer or clothesline). It has to be absolutely bone dry before it goes in with my stash, or worse the diaper bag. A fact that I hate when I want to load up a show-off diaper bag and I'm running behind on laundry. I don't know how it is that a urine soaked diaper can sit in my diaper pail for three days and come out fine after the wash, but a clean damp diaper in my diaper bag goes toxic in twenty-four hours and holds the must through at least 2-3 normal diaper washes. An extended air drying has been my only real cure for these damaged dipes. The washing will fade it, but only lots of fresh air and sunshine get the funk gone.<br><br>
Well, that's my very little bit o' wisdom for what it's worth.
 

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We have the on-again off-again problem with thicker hemp stinking to high heaven. It is so bad I simply cannot stand it when the stink is present. "Rotten poop" is how I describe it. I can take CPFs from the same laundry and they smell fresh. I use CPFs mostly but at night use the hemp fitteds. Bac Out seems to work but it is almost $9 a bottle and I need to douse each dipe really thoroughly.<br><br>
Line drying really helped but I've been busy and just using the dryer and the stink is back.
 

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Hmmm... I dont use hemp at night for either of my boys... but we do use wool with Eli. My older boy, Sam, still wets at night and he wears a HH with like two cpfs inside. It always stinks like ammonia in the morning. For us, it is the pee, not the dipe that stinks. Eli's pee dipes dont' stink like Sam's.<br><br>
Except... when I left a wetbag full of 'em in the hot car overnight. Pyewwww.<br><br>
It's late, I hope this makes sense. ox pam
 

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Pamela, is it a strong concentrated urine odor you are talking about or does one child's pee smell stronger of ammonia than the other child's? Because if it is ammonia, one chid's pee smelling stronger of it than the others' would be due to the environment the pee and diaper is in rather than the composition of the pee. Unless one child has a higher urea output, maybe or has a bladder infection. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Confused">:<br>
It would make sense to me that a diaper in a hot pocket diaper would stink more than one in a wool cover. Have you ever noticed how a closed diaper pail smells stronger of ammonia than one with the lid left open all day? Pocket diapers can actually harbor bacteria more easily than a wool cover would, too.<br>
Sometimes I take a pocket diaper out of the wash and it will still have a stink or will have some sudsy water dripping out of it. On the other hand, wool is antibacterial.<br>
ETA: Thanks for the reminder on not boiling things with snaps. I should have mentioned that. Probably not good to boil anything with synthetic materials in or on it.<br>
For me, the dryness of the diaper is not a factor. My diapers are bone dry coming off the line here and I send them all through an 80-90 min. dry on hot when I use the dryer. Line drying in the sun does help santize them somewhat, but the inner layers don't get much of the benefit. I don't have any Liz's AIO's, but I don't have this stinky hemp problem with my regular LC fitteds, usually. I've had it smell of ammonia in the AM, but not the extreme nose burning ammonia I'm talking about in this thread. I think it is because she makes them with not many layers sewn all together. They get clean all the way through better.
 

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I have been having bad ammonia stink issues as well. It got so bad that it would wake me up in the middle of the night (we still cosleep). And it wasn't ds's pee - when he peed without a diaper on there was barely even an odor.<br><br>
I tried several things - boiling (which worked but only for a few days, plus I can't boil hemp fitteds), baking soda, overnight soaks, multiple hot rinses, Calgon, etc. etc. I gave up and finally used bleach. And guess what - no stink last night! Two soaked JB's that normally would be burning my eyes. We'll see how long it lasts, but so far so good.<br><br>
I know you're not supposed to use bleach, but it was either this or get rid of them altogether, so I figured I might as well give it a shot. Plus, I was worried that ds was having a yeast rash, so I thought that the bleach would also help to kill any yeast on the diapers.
 

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I right there with ya, Oceanbaby! I am no longer going to be the diaper witch, brewing my hemp over the stove. I'm not willing to use 5 or 6 fills of my washer of water to get my hemp clean. I'm no LONGER (have in the past) willing to pay unual amounts for laundry addatives and special detergents. And I can't always hang my stuff to dry. All for remedies that only help some or last a few days. If I don't bleach my stinky hemp, my other option was to boil and sell them off and use disposies at night. Which is the lesser of two evils. Occasional bleach use, or nightly disposie use? I say bleach.<br>
AND, I think about my poor friends who I've converted to cloth JUST by my example alone! What am I to tell the one who's having a baby soon? You can cloth diaper your heavy wetter at night, but it will reak to high heavens and give her the laundry list of ridiculous temporary or partial solutions? I can see how long she'd last now. She'd say no thanks to the cloth altogether most likely! If we are going to say using cloth can be done at night and talk about how cost effective and easy it is with the right diaper, lets not be dishonest.
 

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I haven't had my Liz's Cloth go funky on me yet, but it benefits from past mistakes. I've had wool soakers and plain old cotton prefolds come down with the stinky's. The Eucalan could mask the scent of a full-grown skunk in my washer, but some of them have been garage dried instead of line dried and I know which ones in the morning. Whew! blink-blink. Honest to goodness though the CPFs that went bad on me did it after they were clean, but not quite dry. Dry doesn't come in degrees, either something is or it isn't no matter how badly I want it to be otherwise. I've got to stop doing the laundry I need the day I need it. The mad rush from dryer to diaper bag is bad jujubees. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rolleyes">:
 

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thrrrnbush~ you ar sooo right that a diaper that is allowed to remain damp (isn't damp vs. sopping a degree of wet?) will harbor more bacteria than one that is completely dried. Moisture is a breeding ground for bacteria, no doubt! Ever since I was a kid and had to drink out of musty smelling tupperware tumblers from parents who stacked them wet, I've been paranoid of putting anything still damp away. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue"><br>
What caused your diapers to be particularly stinky come morning could be due to more than the simple fact that they were sometimes not allowed to dry completely, however. I'm sure this is not the case, as you are a seasoned diaperer, but you may also be washing in cool or warm water vs. hot. You may be useing less loads of water than someone else. (I know some just do a hot wash and one rinse and are done! No way I could do that with any of my diapers, I need 4 loads of water in my routine to make my diapers fresh and that's already too much water.) You may be using a very mild soap or detergent to wash your diapers. And you could even have bacteria in your water supply or be waitng a long time between washes. So there is a long list of other components that could be compounding factors to your diapers that stink when left damp. And I'm bringing these things up because they could be things that others might not have thought of who are dealing with this, so don't think I'm saying this to YOU necessarily. Just want to add those possibilites to the thought process here.
 
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