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I have three questions:<br><br>
1)If babies get all the nutrution they need from breastfeeding within<br>
the first year, why do so many pediatricians and other 'experts'<br>
strongly recommend meat for children between 6-12 months?<br>
As long as a child's thriving on breastmilk (or whatever else he/she<br>
might be eating), is it really so important?<br><br>
2)Does anyone have any ideas on how to introduce a 'second' vegetable<br>
mixed in with the first? My daughter loves parsnips (and pretty much<br>
only parsnips) but I'd like to get her to eat something else.<br>
Since potatoes and avocados don't go well with parsnips, I'll have to<br>
try broccoli or zucchini. But every time I try to give it to her mixed<br>
together (even with only a LITTLE bit of zucchini or broccoli) she<br>
knows it's not what she usually gets, and flat out refuses it.<br><br>
3) Does it really matter to introduce children to a variety of tastes<br>
before they're 1? It has been suggested to me that 6 months to 1 year is<br>
the 'window' to introduce many tastes to a baby but I think this can't<br>
be true. Anyone have any experiences with this tpo share?<br><br><br>
Needing reassurance,<br>
Holly<br><br>
Mummy to Catarina Marie (20/07/03)
 

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No, it's not at all necessary to introduce meats to a baby. Sometimes, I, too get this impression from reading baby books on when to introduce certain foods. I think they are just giving general guidelines, though, kwim? More for parents who really want to give their babies meat, those charts tell at what age it would be okay, just so they're not trying to shove down pureed chicken at 6 months or something! Don't feel pressured to do it.<br><br>
I've always felt up to three years was the formative time for so many things, esp. foods. I think you've still got a while. After all, consider that tons of kids don't even start eating solids at all until they are very close, if not over a year. DS#1 didn't eat until 9 or 10 months old. That would have been an awfully short time to try and introduce all sorts of different foods <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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If babies needed meat there would be a lot of vegetarian and vegan babies who were dead or malnourished. Authors of baby and parenting books are probably just regurgitating what they've read in other books.<br><br>
Many doctors are misinformed about what to feed babies, yes, even pediatricians.
 

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My son was de facto vegan till he was 2 1/2 because of allergies. And he's HUGE, very strong for his age/size, and very, very healthy. If you're careful to cover all the bases (as you should be with a kid's diet, regardless), you'll be fine.<br><br>
Often, babies/toddlers need to taste something countless times (I've read up to 20x) before they decide they like it. So keep trying. Our son is now almost 3, and he basically eats everything we eat. (Yeah, including the broccoli.) He doesn't like really hot/spicy food, which is pretty understandable, given his age.<br><br>
I thought the "window" was from 1-3 yrs.
 

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Your baby is 10 mos? And she likes parsnips? It might be too soon for broccoli, which is strongly flavored. Give avocado as is, in small chunks, not mixed with her parsnips. Give small bits of banana, sweet potatoes or white potatoes(pureed or oven fried), shredded apples, ripe pears, blueberries, melon, peaches, etc. Most babies her age can self feed and do not need purees. Give her o-cereal and ww pasta, if wheat is not a problem. Brown rice. If you want to, you can give her bits of chicken, fish, tofu, beans, lentils for protein. Drs want babies to have meat for the iron, but bfed babies are rarely anemic.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">3) Does it really matter to introduce children to a variety of tastes<br>
before they're 1? It has been suggested to me that 6 months to 1 year is<br>
the 'window' to introduce many tastes to a baby but I think this can't<br>
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Your mama instincts are right, it is not true!<br><br>
Read this:<br><br><a href="http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/solids/solids-how.html" target="_blank">http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/so...olids-how.html</a>
 

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Babies do not need meat, just like adults don't need it. There is so much out there that is misinformation. Just like with milk. After 1 year of age it's supposedly ok to give your baby cows milk. This isn't true, the babies intestines will still bleed as will an adults that drink milk. This causes iron dificiency anemia.
 

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I gave my dd meat because we all love meat. but I don't think it's necessary. I think if you wish to have a vegetarian diet and that your kids have that too, I have heard of so many vegetarian children that are wonderfully nourished never even trying meat.<br>
It depends on what YOU want. To me, and after doing research about the benefits of eating meat, I want my kids to have it. My dd eats everything, meat, fish, chicken, veggies, fruits, pretty much all (she's 3) but only because that was my choice even though the doctor tells you to start them on meat at 6 months. I think now they are saying if you start veggied first your kids won't like veggies when he's older (that's what someone at work said) I thought that was ridiculous, though. I started my dd on the mildest and she didn't have meat until she was about a year. she loved it. and if she would not have loved it, I would not have given her more of it. (I strongly believe babies should have a choice as to what they like and what they don't like, just like we adults do)
 

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Loving-my-babies... out of curiosity and not to start a debate or anything, but what benefits of eating meat did you find in your research?
 

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Meat is my choice of protein and it's a good source of high-quiality iron that is readily absorbed. I do think there are other ways of getting the protein and the iron. I guess because we love meat (dh and I) we included meat in our dd's diet. The research I did did not say meat was bad for the human body, although If any of you have found anything that says the opposite (especially the vegetarians here) please post some links. I am interested because ds has not started solids yet and if there is anything I need to know, I'd like to know now before we start...<br><br>
oh no... I'm gonna end up a vegetarian... another reason my dh will think I'm bananas!<br>
see? I'm slowly turning into a big-time crunchy mama...
 

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I grew up vegetarian and when I was old enough to make my own choices and decided that I wanted to eat meat every now and then, I had a really difficult time digesting it...I thought I was just "not meant" to eat meat but I was extemely iron difficient and other iron rich foods and supplements were not changing anything. As I got more and more used to it I was able to eat and digest most meats and dairy products with no problem.<br><br>
I did not introduce meat to my first two children until age 2 and will do the same with 9 month old dd. This was not based on any medical advice it was purely instinct for me. I thought that since I had problems that they might too and I didnt want to take any chances...however I did feel it important to introduce it before they were too old because of the problems I had....kind of a compromise, I suppose.<br><br>
My children can take it or leave it when it comes to meat...as can I. Neither one has had any issues with it.<br><br>
I feel that every body has different things that it "needs". What works for one person may not work for another. I say weigh all your options and opinions before jumping on any one bandwagon...and be warned..there are alot of of pretty hardcore opinions on these boards about the whole meat subject so try to stay objective <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
As with the different veggies...I agree with one of the other mamas who said they need to taste things several times before they decide if they like them. My dd turns her nose up all the time and then two days later will polish off a whole bowl of the same thing <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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I'm veggie and DH is omni. We let DS try meat at 2-1/2 or 3. Since I knew he didn't need it for any nutritional reasons, we wanted to wait until we felt he could make his own informed choice. We talked for a long time before he first tried it, what exactly is was, and the process of it getting from the farm to his plate. I wish my folks had been that honest! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 

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sorry but why so hesitant to introduce meat to your dc's diet? am I missing lots of info here? what's so wrong about meat? (I don't want to start a debate I only want to know because honestly I don't know!) thanks!
 

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My family and I aren't vegetarians. We eat meat on occasion, maybe once a month. Especially if we are guests at someone elses house. I have mixed feelings about it. I stopped cooking meat at home when I became pregnant with my first because the smell made me sick. Also, we saved alot of money on groceries. There are many reasons to limit meat consumption or not consume it at all, both enviromental and nutritionally.<br><br>
-cholesterol, fish, red meat and poultry,all have about the same amount of cholesterol<br>
-meat contains no fiber, so it doesn't pass through your intestinal tract very well<br>
-too much protein in the diet can cause kidney problems<br>
-majority of pesticides are found in animal foods, toxins get stored in their tissues<br>
-hormones and antibiotics<br>
-high level of plaque in the arteries causes restricted blood flow to areas of the body causing problems in the brain and other vital organ<br>
-high blood pressure meat eaters vs. non-meat eaters have a tripled incidance of high b.p.<br>
-70-80% of cancer linked to diet and lifestyle<br>
-a low-fat plant based diet would lower heart attack rate 85%<br><br>
Feeding, watering and raising livestock also take a termendous toll on our enviroment. All of this information I got from my notes from the nutrition class I am taking. It really opened my eyes about so many things. There is so much more info. that I haven't listed here.
 

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My DS was a vegan till he was around 3 and did terrific!! He's allergic to cow's milk and we just didn't want to feed him meat. Our ped didn't hassle us about it and DS turned out to be a great eater and absolutely loves vegetables. He even eats salad! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 

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we have not eaten meat since i was 14 and dh 21 (same year, coincidentally). our daughter is ten and has never had meat. we eat fish rarely. i do not think meat adds any benefit to a diet; i think it's quite unhealthy to eat dead flesh (including fish). we eat very little dairy and our daughter had no dairy or refined sugar until she was about six. our new ped is thrilled with this and says she's one of the healthiest looking kids he's seen in a long time. he is on the board at a really mainstream hospital and his practice is also pretty straight so he is an anomaly. he asked if we eat red beans and when we said yes, of course, he said there was no need to check our daughter's hematocrit! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
dr spock also changed his dietary beliefs later in his career and advocated avoiding animal products altogether.<br><br>
the thing with "evidence" is you can no doubt find equally convincing information advocating both meat- and plant-based diets. we feel we are healthier eating no animal products (and hope our new little one inspires us to clean up our diet) and since meat and factory farming are industries we don't want to support it is a political act as well. i know folks who feel better once they start eating flesh again, but as a vegetarian i always wonder if they really tried to solve the problem without eating meat. however, if they feel better that's what they should eat. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I couldn't find any evidence that the baby needed meat. We don't eat it anyway. We did not give him any eggs or dairy until 12 months, either.<br><br>
We found that it was easiest to introduce one vegetable at a time during the 6-12 month period. His favorite was pureed sweet potatoes. The only things I mixed with other things were rice cereal (it was so gross he wouldn't eat it otherwise, so eventually we stopped with that!) and one or two batches of very bland squash we mixed with applesauce. We didn't use jarred baby food, we just cooked the vegetables and pureed them.<br><br>
For awhile we were pureeing things like curry, once he had had all the ingredients in it one at a time, so he would be eating what we ate. I didn't know that babies aren't supposed to have spicy food--he really likes spicy food!<br><br>
Now he eats any vegetable that we eat, he especially enjoys spinach and broccoli, and since he is getting really good at feeding himself we just give it to him however we are eating it.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">For awhile we were pureeing things like curry, once he had had all the ingredients in it one at a time, so he would be eating what we ate. I didn't know that babies aren't supposed to have spicy food--he really likes spicy food!</div>
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Who says babies aren't supposed to have spicy food? If you have been eating spicy foods while bfing, he is already used to the spice. If he didn't have a bad reaction through your milk, it stands to reason he will like it straight.
 
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