[NaturalMindedMomma]

DONA asks that you make a resource list for your client and it asks for online resources, I find nocirc to be an important organization for expectant parents to research and see. Is this inappropriate?

THANKS!

 

[jenmidwife2b]

I don't think so.

 

[laylasmommy]

I think it's fine. I believe part of being a Doula is helping to provide choices and informed consent. I plan on adding it to my resource list. Good Luck with your certification

 

[mamato3cherubs]

Not unethical at all. I have no circ stuff in my handouts, I also want clients to research all thier choices, including this one.

 

[frontierpsych]

I'm not a birth professional, but in my mind it falls under informed consent. Just like if I were a doula I would include information on possible side effects of epidurals even though it's obviously not the doula's choice whether mom gets one or not-- the hospitals/docs generally don't provide informed consent for these things and I think SOMEONE should!

 

[Amydoula]

I always smile when I certify a doula with a nocirc link on her resource list. (I'm on the certification committee).

 

[txgal]

Good to know Amy, I planned on putting one in mine.

 

[nashvillemidwife]

No. They are paying you to provide your training and expertise. You're educated in this matter for a reason. It's not an opinion, it's necessary information for informed consent. It's also not unethical to have a position that you will not provide information to enable or encourage circumcision. As long as you refer them to someone or some place else that can provide the information they're asking for, you have every right as a professional to morally object to being a party to that. I provide all of my clients with factual information, informing them that routine circumcision is painful, risky, and medically unnecessary. If they ask my personal opinion I tell them I think it's a human rights violation. If they ask me where or when they should get it done, I tell them to talk to their pediatrician, and that is all I am willing to say.

 

[NaturalMindedMomma]

Ok! It is really important to me and I know I am supposed to not be imposing my beliefs. Thanks for the imput!

 

[BrooklynDoula]

It's fine. That said, my resource lists also include things like Mohels who will do a private circ in our area. I give the range of options so that they know what is available and can make choices accordingly.

 

[Jilian]

I like the "so you're having a boy" article from mothering. I added it to my info binder that I had out to all of my doula clients. It educates people on the function of the foreskin (many people think it is useless) and talks about the procedure itself. The article is anti-circ but not in an obvious way. I think if a mom is planning on circing and sees something called "no circ" she's be more likely to skip over it. This article is less abrasive to people who think they want to circ.

 

[CanidFL]

Do you have a link to that article?

I have made a handout but would love to include the article in my CBE material.

 

[wombjuice]

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Originally Posted by CanidFL Do you have a link to that article? I have made a handout but would love to include the article in my CBE material.

I have just googled and googled, and I think that article was in the hard-copy "Intact Boy" issue of Mothering. You can order the back issue and make copies to hand out...that's what I'm gonna do.

 

[Climbergirl]

I think with informed choice, there should be 2 sides of the issue, otherwise, it is an opinion. Just a thought....

 

[frontierpsych]

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Originally Posted by Climbergirl I think with informed choice, there should be 2 sides of the issue, otherwise, it is an opinion. Just a thought....

I disagree. I have yet to see factual information in support of RIC.

 

[PuppyFluffer]

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Originally Posted by Climbergirl I think with informed choice, there should be 2 sides of the issue, otherwise, it is an opinion. Just a thought....

Since no medical organization in the world recommends routine infant circumcision, I don't see how you can provide both sides from a medical informative stand point.

 

[Climbergirl]

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I believe part of being a Doula is helping to provide choices and informed consent.

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I'm not a birth professional, but in my mind it falls under informed consent.

Sorry, I was referring to this, not circ specifically.

If the intent is to provide choices for informed consent, then you have to provide both sides of the issue. I was unsure how only showing one side of the issue would be considered informed consent. And yes, there are 2 sides because people do circ and they do it for a variety of reasons (religous for one). Otherwise, it would not be an issue!

Guess I should have use the quote button to begin with, huh?

 

[PuppyFluffer]

I don't think that speaking to religious issues is the domain of a health care professional.

Being informed about the effects of circumcision upon a child is part of informed consent. The arguements for routine infant circumcision just don't hold water in any scientific sense - which is the criteria that should be used when educating about medical issues.

 

[CanidFL]

I use religious reasons as a "pro" when speaking about circumcision. All the medical info is so anti circ (as it should be) that I feel like I am attacking the clients so I normally end with something like "of course there are reasons that some parents choose to circ which is normally a religious reason but my recent searches have shown that even certain religions have dropping circumcision rates since the medical literature shows that it is not necessary".

I like to end on a lighter note when having the "circ talk" with a client that is clearly pro circ.