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i only have a sec, but have been wanting to ask - i keep hearing that people put their babies in wool covers in summertime for breathability. i don't want to start out doing that, although i can see myself doing it later in the summer when i get used to cloth, but i did want to ask if pul (as in FB diapers) is at least as breathable as the sposies she has on her now - i'm okay with them being not as breathable as wool for now, but i at least want her to breath as much if not more than she is now, kwim?<br><br>
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well, geez louise. than what IS breathable?? and easy to use for a first timer on an 18 month old? and please don't say pre-folds, because i'm pretty sure my dh would NOT like those right now! i need something as close to sposies as i can get to break us in, that works WELL (no leaks)..and i guess i would like it to breathe, too...am i asking too much from cloth?
 

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one more thing - so pul is not breathable. okay. are the sposies she's in now? would i be putting her in an even more sweaty, uncomfortable diaper than she is already using if i put her in FB?
 

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No way, I think PUL can't be worse than sposies. Don't worry about that. I wonder why you are so reluctant to try a wool cover over a fitted diaper from the get-go? I find wool covers over fitteds to be more reliable and easier to care for (since you hardly ever have to wash em, just let em air out) than PUL pockets like FB, and I have a 21 month old toddler myself. You don't have to use prefolds to use wool, you can get really-easy-to-use fitted diapers to go underneath them, and there are lots of nice ones out there. The problem of course with a toddler and a two-step diapering system is that it will be a tad bulkier than an AIO/pocket, and certainly bulkier than sposies, but with a trim diaper and well-fitting cover, it shouldnt' be too bad. sugarpeas makes a really trim side-snapping diaper AND a darn trim wool merino jersey cover. I doubt you'd find that combination bulky.<br>
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I don't know that pul would be worse than a disposable, but you would have more moisture. Disposables have that stuff in them that sucks all the moisture out, so while they aren't breathable, they at least keep dryer. Not that I am saying they are better than cloth, just as far as the breathability factor neither of them are. Wool is actually very easy to care for and will last you a very long time. I personally am very obsessive about keeping DS' bum dry. PUL just keeps him sweaty. I'm not trying to discourage you from using it, but I think it's better you know what to expect that be suprised ya know? You just have to realize that cloth IS a lot different and more work that a disposable. I think it's a piece of cake now, it just takes a little time to get used to. After a few weeks in cloth you would never in a million years be able to use another sposie!
 

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okay, i will look into wool and fleece covers. i will go to that sugarpeas website and see what they have. do you highly recommend them? are there any other websites that you would recommend that carry wool covers? what fitteds would you recommend?<br><br>
every time i think i have made a decision i change my mind!! i might just have to have a little of everything! i guess i always thought the fitteds/covers would be too bulky and everyone loved the FB so much...but if the sugarpeas place has some that are a little more trim (i know they will be bulkier than sposies...) anyway, i'll let you know what i find out!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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my babies are in pul every day & most nights & are never sweaty or hot, & never have a rash. what is the evidence it is not breathable, when I've read so often it is? it certainly behaves as though it is on my girls. I think pul pockets & quick dry all in ones are a great (& super darling) way to get into cloth & out of sposies, & wool & fitteds can be a bit intimidating... I wouldn't worry about using it...
 

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Interesting thread for me 'newbie' to CDs! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lurk.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lurk">:
 

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wool is NOT HARD! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> Although you can't machine wash it, there's no need to wash it at all for long periods - just if it gets poopy (it won't with an 18mo very often at all) - or if it needs lanolizing. It's still a total mystery to me how this happens but the wool does have anti-microbial properties and the covers will not stink at all.<br><br>
For affordable, very reliable wool - I suggest Babyology from ebay - it is just like aristocrats, imo, and more affordable.<br><br>
eta - yes, wool is bulkier, no two ways about it. Still, in summer you don't need pants or shorts if you have a cute cover <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> The babyology longies have really thin legs that roll up into cute shorts.
 

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Our 'non-breathable' PUL pockets keep ds's bum completely dry. I've never once taken his dipe off and noticed wet skin in PUL with a wicking layer. The same can not be said for his fitteds with wool or fleece.... I often find him 'clammy' when using that combo. JM 2 cents...
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">my babies are in pul every day & most nights & are never sweaty or hot, & never have a rash. what is the evidence it is not breathable, when I've read so often it is? it certainly behaves as though it is on my girls. I think pul pockets & quick dry all in ones are a great (& super darling) way to get into cloth & out of sposies, & wool & fitteds can be a bit intimidating... I wouldn't worry about using it...</div>
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I was just wondering where you read that PUL is breatheable??? It is a plastic synthetic material and waterproof, which means nothing can get out.<br><br>
Just to make it clear, I am not telling anyone not to use PUL or that it is worse than a sposie. I just think it is good for people to know all of their options and know what to expect. Many people have babes in PUL all the time without problems I'm sure, but there are also babes that cannot tolerate no air on their bums. If you think that is all you can do by all means do it, but I think it would be well worth your time and $$ to invest in a couple wool covers and see how easy it really is!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love">
 

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hm, seems like there are two issues here - staying dry versus air flow. Fuzzi Bunz are GREAT for staying dry, but I'm not sure there's much "breathing" or air flow. Wool and fitteds have got to be way more breathable, but yes, the skin will feel more damp unless the fitted is well-lined in fleece.<br><br>
this is my opinion at least..
 

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Thanks for that hint!!! Just a few days ago I 'stumbled' over this eBay store and saw it's covers, but wasn't sure how good they are!<br><br>
Now that's a price I can also re-consider using wool! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> (I've bought 2 stacinator stretch day/night wool covers and thought to myself that I can't afford going all the way wool with those kind of prices! *lol*)<br><br>
P.S: Stupid question: When buying those covers via eBay, do I type in what size I need at the end in the 'comment' box, just like it's said to do so for the color choice??? -Just wanting to make sure that I understood it right, in case I'm buying/winning one in the future! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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interesting....i'll keep lurking and check out the websites you all recommend as you post your opinions. and i'll do some online research as well and see what i can find.<br><br>
my biggest worry is that i will become discouraged, think it is too hard, and not do it. i just don't want to fail, kwim?? i expect it to be harder than sposies, but i don't want to spend hours soaking, washing, drying, diapers only to have my dd's bottom be wet, or dirty, or sweaty. because to be honest, we have had no problems with sposies thus far. i just know cloth is probably better and i am tired of buying diapers all the freaking time!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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Yep. Just what I was going to say.
 

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fyi: these websites say that FB pul covers are breathable. however, the actually mother of eden fuzzibunz website does not say this anywhere from what i can tell...(i searched for about 30 sec and found these and wanted to share...i'm still looking for info...)<br><br><br><a href="http://www.ecobottom.com/fuzzibunz.html" target="_blank">http://www.ecobottom.com/fuzzibunz.html</a><br><br><a href="http://www.nappyness.com/buyfuzzis.htm" target="_blank">http://www.nappyness.com/buyfuzzis.htm</a><br><br><a href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=9&threadid=150" target="_blank">http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=9&threadid=150</a><br>
(the first response to this thread - this woman says that kooshie pul liners are not breathable while FB are)
 

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IME the easiest to use are FBs. But I use fitteds with wool at night, because I don't change in the middle of the night.<br><br>
The FBs are not breathable but I guess I don't expect them to be. I don't live in a hot climate, and have just figured that any kind of cloth is at least as breathable as a sposie, and if the diaper is dry, her skin will be dry...<br><br>
I do take off her diaper at home outside. Fresh air is better than any diaper!!<br><br>
As far as caring for the wool, it's too simple: I hang it up to air out in the morning, and put it on again at night when it is dry. Every week I wash it with Eucalan and use an FB that night, while it air-dries. The hemp fitteds get washed with the FBs I use in the daytime.<br><br>
I think the biggest thing about using cloth is keeping up with the changes. For me, changing every 2 hours is about right - I think she is an average pee-er. You will learn a lot about your baby using cloth, and that will help you both with potty learning when the time comes.<br><br>
It is really hard to be sure you are making the right choices, and there are so so many of them!! It sounds like you have some good thoughts and a good spirit for giving cloth a shot!<br><br>
PS Soon you can check out the Trading Post for wool covers, there are a lot out there and then you haven't invested much if it doesn't work for you. Or check out the Diaper Sewing area in Crafts, you can make a wool cover out of an old sweater with minimal sewing skills...
 
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