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Maybe because I've been hanging out at MDC a lot, and many of my friends have had free standing bc births or home births. I just get so surprised when people think it's "weird" to have babies at home. In my circles, that is the norm and I'm caught off guard when people make ignorant comments.
 

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I can only wish <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> I am THE homebirther where I live. Good thing I found MDC!
 

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Its funny isnt it? Two generations ago hospital births were the odd ones! I am a midwife. I used to do independant practise, with a 50% homebirth rate. (Midwives here also have hospital privileges) just like OBs. Now due to having small children, I choose to work in a busy hospital, led by midwives but attended by specialists (anaesthetists, OBs and Paeds) for emergencies. We have a 16% c-section rate, and have almost 3000 births per year.<br><br>
I've worked this way for 10 years and I am STILL shocked that the majority of people think hospitals are the "normal" place to have babies, think its safer, cleaner etc. (FTR they are FILTHY places!!!). I am constantly amazed when I am working while pregnant that women and families I care for ask me if I am delivering at the hospital I work in and are shocked speechless when I answer: NO WAY. I have homebirths.<br><br>
Hospitals are great for complicated pregnancies or births. Home is great for uncomplicated births. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br><br>
FTR: I am considered high risk. I've had seven babies, all big (8lb to 11lb) and was told by two OBs I couldnt deliver vaginally due to my pelvis size. I have had a perforated uterus (IUD) and stillbirth, with overwhelming sepsis, massive PPH and other complications I was supposed to die from (and be infertile because of). I have rapid births, OP babies. I also have a bleeding disorder. Drs blanch at the thought of me having homebirths for these reasons - never had a problem with a single birth other than the stillbirth which was iatrogenically caused!
 

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I know more people who homebirth than hospital birth, but mostly b/c i'm in pretty crunchy circles. If you count my students, I know way more hospital birthers. I think if women in our culture were exposed to birth more, there'd be way more homebirths. You can't see home v. hospital and pick hospital, really.
 

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Sing it.<br><br>
I just don't understand why so many people choose hospital birth, but I guess I kinda do understand it. I'm in a big urban city, and even the natural birthers choose the hospital "just in case". It's been so ingrained that homebirth is dangerous, or maybe just uncivilized. Decent ladies go to the hospital, where they can get their epidural and sit in bed to "enjoy" their experience without all the primal screaming and such of unmedicated childbirth
 

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I do have to say, I will probably never choose a homebirth again <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
I planned one this time around and had the pre-e at 37 weeks. Had to transfer care. Still had to pay the homebirth midwife (She did very generously knock off a few hundred on her fee - I did not expect that). But it was a big stretch for us financially, and I am not sure if I am willing to take the risk again. It was like gambling and losing $3000.<br><br>
But, if I didn't LOVE the CNM that my homebirth midwife hooked us up with so much, I might be singing a different tune. I feel completely comfortable with her attending any future hospital births because she respected my wishes of having a non-medicated, vaginal, episiotomy-free birth this time around. I was very, very lucky.<br><br>
It also wound up that with this birth I *needed* to be at the hospital. I would have wound up transferring during the birth if I had attempted it at home.<br><br>
I wish I could have had my little guy at home, but since this time didn't work out, I'm not sure if I would be willing to take that huge financial risk again. If health insurance covered homebirth, I might lbe willing to try again.
 

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I don't think homebirths are weird at all, but I still had a hospital birth and will with any other babies. I just feel better being in a hospital.I really liked my birth, and the people there. And just cause I was in a hospital didn't mean that I didn't let out some 'primal screams' too ya know! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br>
I appreciate that lots of folks would prefer to have their babies at home, and I respect you for your choices. I just wish you all would respect those who choose to birth in a hospital. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I don't think homebirths are weird at all, but I still had a hospital birth and will with any other babies. I just feel better being in a hospital.I really liked my birth, and the people there. And just cause I was in a hospital didn't mean that I didn't let out some 'primal screams' too ya know! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br>
I appreciate that lots of folks would prefer to have their babies at home, and I respect you for your choices. I just wish you all would respect those who choose to birth in a hospital. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"></div>
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Yeah that... I screamed my heart out. And, I think hb is great, just not for me. I am more comfortable in the hospital. Does that make me wierd?
 

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Also a hospital birther, but #2 was born in the water w/ no drugs. I'm considered weird for that, the midwife who helped deliver Seamus hadn't done a waterbirth in 8 years and she was the ONLY one with any experience with it. All theo ther girls on the ward had epis and all my friends had them too!
 

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I have had 3 hospital births and 1 birth center birth.<br><br>
Even though my first and second hospital births were 100% natural and not bad at all (gave birth at a very baby friendly hospital in Denmark!), the third hospital birth was in the US and it was HELL! I just cannot believe how condescending and disrespectful they were. Now, I know from experience that not all hospitals are like that, but the experience was enough for me to get hospital phobia. The fact that the 4th birth was a FANTASTIC birthcenter experience helped me cement the goal of never stepping in a hospital again!<br><br>
I want a homebirth next time - possibly unassisted <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br>
I too hang out with very crunchy ladies, but most of the people I know think I am crazy for wanting to homebirth. Heck, my mom's family thinks I am crazy for not wanting pain medication! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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I don't think there is anything wrong with women wanting to give birth in a hospital... or a birth center, or with a midwife, in water, or in the middle of the woods for that matter. I think that where ever mom is most comfortable, is where she should birth.<br><br>
My "beef" is that those views are not very much shared by the "general populace". I would never tell someone they MUST birth unassisted, because it was great for me. Yet time and again I have heard how I "MUST" have an OB controlled hospital birth because it was "great for them". Many of the women who say this to me, will recount horror stories of those exact births, where I was excitedly looking forward to birthing another baby 2 hours after my daughter entered the world. All I wish for, is that people would be open minded to more options, and that everyone could see clear to defend a woman's right to birth as she feels comfortable.<br><br>
The reasons so many doctors and hospitals treat us like crap (condescending, pushing interventions when requested not to, etc), is because women let them. Maybe not US, but with the amount of money that obstetrics makes, if the majority of women refused to go along with that behavior, they would have to change, or loose their livelihoods. I hate to go all activist here... but if we, as a whole, demanded better service we would get it and then maybe not so many women would be raped by "medical supervision".
 

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Let it be known, I respect any woman for whatever they choose. Women must choose the birth they are most comfortable with. But I really wish we REALLY had that freedom of choice. Me choosing a home birth should be just as normal and accepted as any other woman choosing a hospital birth, but it isn't. I am deemed a radical for it. But hey, I'm a radical where I live for leaving my babies with all of their foreskin.
 

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Yeah, I agree. It's odd to me too. I had all 4 of mine (sections) in the hospital...you just don't really think "past" that until the alternative is put squalrely in your face. Now it's glaringly obvious to me that homebirth is what is <b>normal.</b>
 

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I don't know why yours doesn't. Mine does. Many of us have had luck getting them to pay. Perhaps someone has some tips for you <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br><br>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">I don't know why yours doesn't. Mine does. Many of us have had luck getting them to pay. Perhaps someone has some tips for you <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br><br>
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Not to hijack the thread, but would you believe that yesterday there was an article in our local paper saying that my insurance company specifically excluded homebirth, and my bf's has been excluding them on a case-by-case basis and will have a formal exclusion go into effect this summer. That being said, my midwife is still going to have her biller try to submit online and slip it past them.
 

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My understanding is that if midwives are "legal" and regulated in your state, a big plan can not exclude them. An individual company can choose to, but not the insurance company itself.<br><br>
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I live in CA, and I just checked with my health plan to see if home birth and birth centers are covered. Nope. Home birth is specifically excluded, and only hospital birth is listed as covered.<br><br>
Grrrrr. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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If they cover midwives, they can NOT dictate where they practice. If you go through the process of protesting you should win.<br><br>
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Really! Good to know. I'll have to see about that - I know they list a few midwives in their list of covered providers, but they are all affiliated with hospitals. Thanks for the info.
 

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I live in a rural area,and sometimes, they tend to be more open--but not in childbirth. Most people go out of town to have epidurals, so when I told people that I go out of town to have a natural birth, I just get stares. This time around we are HBing and very excited. Knowing the response, we've chosen to tell only those who will support us. I just didn't want to deal with the emotional headache of all the "your baby will die/I would have died/I could never do that/ how will you deal with the pain/" and on and on and on.<br>
I don't feel that I should have to defend my position. I feel just as strongly about the increased intervention=increased likelyhood of something going wrong/no freedom/how dare you ??? our authority, ect.<br>
The problem I have with most hospital birthers that I know is that they don't research anything, treat the doctor as a god, and if something does go wrong (heaven forbid) gush over how awful it could have been had they not been there! (I have two close friends who I know had medical induced problems during birth.)<br>
May 5th is International Day of the Midwife! 80% of births are delivered my mw, worldwide, with only 8% being in the US. (1-2% of those being at home in the US). It's definately in our culture to believe that hospitals are the only safe place--heck, they want us to think that--they get paid for those births! But in reality, US birthing is not the worldwide norm.<br>
Whoa, did I get on my soapbox, or what?=) I guess that's enough for now...Nicole, stepping down, lol
 
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