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First off, I get Parenting Mag cuz my grandma ordered it for me. I read the current issue, and have never been more disgusted over a magazine. Ick. From the poll about "should babies be breastfed over 1yo" (65% or so said yes- but the comments they included were silly. esp the anti-extended bf.). To the stupid stuff on discipline. I'm trying to remember some, but I can't. Same old stuff about being in charge, don't let them test limits, time outs, if you think they are capable of picking up their toys then don't let them "get away" with not doing it. How to bribe in the most effective manner. How your kids will become monsters if you don't make them do stuff for themselves.<br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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(I found the <a href="http://www.parenting.com/parenting/child/article/0,19840,1181772_5,00.html?topic=l1366" target="_blank">article</a>.)<br>
One issue even had a mom telling that one way to discipline was to take a pic of her dc being bad, then showing him the pic when she dished out the consequence later. EWWWWWW. I could go on.<br>
I recycled all my mags. I couldn't stand the thought of someone else reading that trash.<br><br>
And now I'm reading about language development (ds still isn't talking at 22 mos) and I read this:<br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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Sheesh. Um, really? Toddlers are that bad? I will undoubtedly struggle to get my toddler to do as I say? um...hasn't happened like that yet. And I have only a handful of times seen him be posessive- he shares quite well, thanks. And he says (signs) yes way more than no. And no is generally in answer to a question we've asked.<br>
Sure, he dissents, and tests limits, and wants some control over his life. But they make that sound like a BAD thing. Sorry, but it seems totally normal and good to me.<br>
Why do mainstream people make kids out to be such antisocial, maniplulative, difficult little creatures?<br><br>
Sorry for the rant. I've just really been in a "people are stupid" funk recently. I don't think it'll go away any time soon lol <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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Oh, Becky, I know how you feel! I get that stupid magazine, too. I keep meaning to cancel it, but I do like the crafts.<br><br>
Did you see their review of parenting "experts" this month? Along with Dr. Sears, they had Dobson, and John Rosemond. And then the "real mother", who said that by her third child she didn't even notice them crying it out. Niiiice.<br><br>
Oh, and I read a thing about language development that may help you. What you need is the five "language-booster" electronic toys they listed in their developmental section. That's the answer, buying more stuff.
 

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More like they are testing the limits and bounds of parental love, to see how far <i>that</i> goes.<br><br>
I got that rag for 3 f-ing years as a gift while I was preggo.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/demon.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="demon"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/demon.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="demon"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/demon.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="demon"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/demon.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="demon"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/demon.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="demon"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/demon.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="demon"><br><br>
I think I burned them so no one could read...
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Oh, and I read a thing about language development that may help you. What you need is the five "language-booster" electronic toys they listed in their developmental section. That's the answer, buying more stuff.</div>
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So THAT'S why ds isn't talking yet. Its the lack of cheap loud gaudy junk. lol. Gotta run right out to Walmart... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br>
(ok, I have to admit I did buy him a loud gaudy pooh phone. But he liked it so much in the store, I didn't have the heart to say no. lol)<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">More like they are testing the limits and bounds of parental love, to see how far that goes.</div>
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Yeah. I just can't see how its so bad for kids to test most limits. Like when ds has a pen, and writes on me. I say "don't write on me" so ds gently pokes me with the pen. How could I NOT be impressed by the thought that went into that? lol
 

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That stuff infuriates me too. There is a blurb in Parents magazine this month by James Dobson who recommends hitting childrens' fingers when they have a temper tantrum.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry">
 

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I have gotten both of those mags in the past too--and the worst of all for consumerism, Child (arghh....!!!!!!!!!!!!).<br><br>
The rampant consumerism; the fear mongering that something must be wrong with your kid if they don't X, Y, or Z; the silly questions and crazy advice drove me crazy.<br><br>
These are the reasons I'm on MDC. In some ways, I am very mainstream (we vaccinate our kids, but that's not to say they get flu shots, please no flames), but we believe in cooking real food, organic gardening, hate battery powered "learning" toys, severely limit TV, spending time with our kids, breastfeeding, appreciate the value of broedom in creativity, etc etc.<br><br>
My mother is constantly reading me "useful tips" to help me that she cuts out from USAToday, etc. hahahahahahaha
 

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For a crafty magazine, we like Family Fun much better. The caveat is that it's from Disney, but they don't tell you how to parent as much as good recipes, neat cakes and party games, suggested places to visit when traveling. I had never looked at it because it was from Disney, I first read it in the dentist's waiting room. That said, most of their craft stuff is online for free!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">That stuff infuriates me too. There is a blurb in Parents magazine this month by James Dobson who recommends hitting childrens' fingers when they have a temper tantrum.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"></div>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="huh"> Whoa. that man sure gets around. spreadin' his message of love, he is. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="huh"> Whoa. that man sure gets around. spreadin' his message of love, he is. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:</div>
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He sure does! I also recently read something on-line where he describes whippng his dachsund (for those who don't know, a small breed commonly known as the "weiner-dog") with a belt!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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I get the magazine and flip through it when I'm bored. I do like the craft stuff and some times there is an article or two that I like, but there's alot of stuff I don't agree with.<br><br>
You know, I've been getting that mag for 4 or 5 years and I have never paid for it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> They keep sending me notices that I have to renew, I usually throw them out, although I have tried cancelling it a couple of times but it keeps coming. I don't know why, it's not like anyone is paying for it for me or anything.
 

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Well, in that case, maybe someone will charge him with cruelty to animals. At least <i>that's</i> illegal. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Well, in that case, maybe someone will charge him with cruelty to animals. At least <i>that's</i> illegal. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:</div>
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That was exactly my first thought! So sad that people might be more appalled by the belt-whipping of a dog than a child.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Oh, Becky, I know how you feel! I get that stupid magazine, too. I keep meaning to cancel it, but I do like the crafts.<br><br>
Did you see their review of parenting "experts" this month? Along with Dr. Sears, they had Dobson, and John Rosemond. And then the "real mother", who said that by her third child she didn't even notice them crying it out. Niiiice.<br><br>
Oh, and I read a thing about language development that may help you. What you need is the five "language-booster" electronic toys they listed in their developmental section. That's the answer, buying more stuff.</div>
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Yes I am stuck w/ the magazine too, I read the review of parenting experts and the real mother said she would turn the tv up so she didn't hear the baby cry... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br>
there were some other harsh ones in there too but I have dumped out any memory of that!
 

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Don't read it. If someone sends it to you, burn it. Cut out what you want out of it and then rid yourself of the rest of it.<br><br>
That is what I have done.
 

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I can't stand Parenting Magazine. They should put the word "Bad" in front of the title.<br><br>
Dh has forbidden me from looking it at in the pedi's office -- I always get mad and start arguing with it out loud. I end up looking like a crazy person.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I also recently read something on-line where he describes whippng his dachsund (for those who don't know, a small breed commonly known as the "weiner-dog") with a belt!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:</div>
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<br><a href="http://www.geocities.com/cddugan/DobsonsDog.html" target="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/cddugan/DobsonsDog.html</a> :puke :puke :puke
 

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Oh, no kidding! I've read that in the ped's office, I hate the fashion spreads. The poor kids look like Guess models or something, same sultry expression and everything. Blech.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Oh, no kidding! I've read that in the ped's office, I hate the fashion spreads. The poor kids look like Guess models or something, same sultry expression and everything. Blech.</div>
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And the make-up -- don't even get me started on the sexualization of children! Grr. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Dh has forbidden me from looking it at in the pedi's office -- I always get mad and start arguing with it out loud. I end up looking like a crazy person.</div>
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My dp keeps telling me to stop reading stuff too. He says everything I've ever read him from a mag or online is stupid advice from stupid people (except for mdc, of course <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> ). He says I shouldn't be surprised- I should know that by now. lol. He can't figure out why I'm a glutton for punishment. lol
 

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I finally stopped reading. It's same old stuff. I know what they are going to supply as an A when I read the Q.<br><br>
Would have been amusing if I did not know that many parents would actually try to follow those suggestions to the "T" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue"> and then proclaim that it "worked great" for a while and then "stopped working"<br><br>
And - they just keep and keep sending those mags even though my subscription run out like a zillion years ago...
 
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