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here we go! i guess 15 pages was enough for the last version. it's time to start over. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
here's a topic. my husband had a vasectomy today. we made the decision together, and i know i wanted this, but my feelings are still a little bit mixed, a little sad. i'd already closed that door in my mind, but now it's not just locked, but bricked over!<br><br>
babies are so wonderful. but children are expensive, pregnancy (for me) is hideous, and i'm going to be 37 in May. anyone else here using sterilization as the birth control in their marriage? i expect there are several women here who use no birth control at all in their marriage, and never will barring - g!d forbid - a health reason that permits them to deviate from the prohibition not to.<br><br>
i hope this leads to some interesting conversation!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Hello everyone,<br><br>
I think the time has come to introduce myself formally on this thread. I have actually followed it for a while but I'm more of a lurker by nature. Plus, I'm not yet a "mama", just an expecting one <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> My husband and I are expecting our first (its a boy!) in mid-April.<br><br>
I was born in Ukraine so being Jewish there meant it was your nationality. I came to US when I was 12 and everything I know about Judaism I learned here. My husband grew up Conservative with a kosher home. I have learned a lot about traditions/holidays from his family and love it. For me tradition and ritual are very important as a link to the past. But Judaism itself, for me is very different, its not just learning how to "properly" celebrate a certain holiday. It is just an integral part of who I am.<br><br>
So, now its on for a name search. Anyone can recommend Hebrew baby naming websites (in English)?</div>
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welcome B'shert! i've quoted your whole post in its entirety so those who come over to this new thread won't miss you!<br><br>
the best jewish name site i know of is <a href="http://www.tricityjcc.org/resources/parenting/babynames/" target="_blank">this one</a> but it is somewhat small. i love smadar sidi's book Complete Book of Hebrew Baby Names. amazon has it, and i also found it on the web <a href="http://www.addall.com/detail/0062548506.html" target="_blank">here.</a><br>
i have never used this company, but they show a picture of the book's cover and that might be useful. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
welcome!
 

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Sorry not to follow up on the very interesting topic...<br><br>
But I wanted to say "hi"<br><br>
My name is Lisa. I am the 38 year old Mom of Eliana who is almost 4 months old. I am also the blessed wife of my hubby Jim ( 46). We live in Long Beach, California (sunny Southern Cali).. But I am actually a transplanted gal.. My family, friends, clothes and attitude are certainly east coast (Boston/upstate NY).<br><br>
To answer the question you all wonder about? How "Jewish is she"? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
I was raised in a "go-to-Hebrew-school-twice-a-week-celebrate-major-holidays-plus-hanuka-shul-going-once-a-month-or-so" conservative family<br><br>
THat cover it?<br><br>
And I dated only Jewish boys/men. Really. Except I met this nice Catholic guy in 1989 and we never dated but became good friends (see where this is going?) <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
We remained great friends even though he moved to Asia for 8 years. I did the WHOLE Jewish dating thing... singles mission to Israel, match.com. blind dates....<br><br>
Fourteen years later.. still never having really dated, he proposed, and since I couldn't imagine loving anyone more/ or a better dad for our kids? I accepted and GASP I intermarried. I was 35 at the time.<br><br>
Our household is Jewish. He dragged me to shul on Yom Kippur 5 weeks post-partum and exhausted. She was named. But he goes to church on Christmas and Easter. His family is OK with a Jewish child.. but he is 46, so they feel lucky to have a niece/grandchild!<br><br><br>
My family LOVES him (it helps that my sis married a good for nothing jewish guy and that I was 35!) There's a great story I'll tell you about that if I remember...<br><br>
Although I wish I had met the right jewish man, It turns out that we are both lucky in a way. I am a carrier of one of those awful eastern european Jewish diseases (Neimann-Pick type A) and he is a carrier of a mediteranean disease... and obviously, neither of us have the other's issues!!<br><br>
Anyhoo... that's me and my jewishness in a nutshell...<br><br><br>
On the AP/NP spectrum? I'm an informed vaxer/BF and babe won't take a bottle <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/crap.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="crap"> / mohel's number in my palm pilot/ co-sleeping (well SHE'S sleeping, I'm co-awaking)/cloth-diapering gal<br><br><br><br>
now back to your regularly scheduled discussion of birth control....
 

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Thanks indiana ima for quoting my post and the website suggestion! I figured that my timing was bad after I already posted.
 

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welcome to the new posters, things are going really well for us, although sleep is a thing of the past, looking forward to reading what everyone has to say about bc!!<br>
Abby
 

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Why do you all start intersting topics on Fridays?!?!! Will have to wait to post until the post Shabbos madness has passed. Good shabbos all!
 

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Oh, Beshert - PM me. I can lend you a great book of Hebrew/Jewish names and I think you just live a few blocks from me. Want to come over for dinner tonight (yeah, I'm serious, lol)? You and your dh are welcome to come on over.
 

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oh waah! i wish i lived a few blocks from you!!<br>
and sorry to start a new thought/topic just before shabbat. it was the best day to schedule outpatient surgery!
 

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Come on over, lol. A bit of a drive, but you're close than say, Amy or Andrea.<br><br>
In the meantime, enjoy <a href="http://home.nc.rr.com/keehyun/stuff/jew-heyya.html" target="_blank">this link</a> dh sent me. I almost choked watching it.
 

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That's hilarious! :LOL<br><br>
We're planning on Mike getting a vasectomy later, after #4 unless 1)we get rich (in which case we'll have lots more) or 2)there really is something odd about our genetics, in which case we may not have any more. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/mecry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="crying"><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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I thought I was safe, too, but it turns out that I am a carrier for an Eastern European Jewish disease which is sex-linked; in other words, my son inherited it from me and all of my sons, regardless of who their other parent is, will have a 50% chance of having it. Luckily, it's not really serious and doesn't need any real management; my son has to avoid certain medications and chemicals, all of which are easy enough to avoid these days (how often does a kid encounter mothballs in 2004?). If he does come into contact with and/or ingest one of them, he could get very very sick, and need a blood transfusion, but knowing in advance, it'll be pretty easy to deal with. Hopefully, his blood type is the same as mine. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
We have a whole bunch of weird things in my family; for example, I've got a niece with thalassemia minor (inherited from my sister), we've got a weird microcytic anemia (me, and both of my sisters), my son and both of my brothers were born without foreskins; my daughter has dysplastic kidneys and my new niece only has one kidney. We've got loads of stuff going on genetically that's really unpleasant. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> Of course, there's good stuff too... but loads of mess. And my husband is as totally unrelated to me as it's possible to be-- he's descended from Amish/Mennonite Germans. It looks like my kids have still managed to inherit weird stuff from me alone. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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Welcome LerLerLer!<br><br>
I have a dd named Elianna, too, who is 26 mths. I married a Jew, but I am a convert <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> It's nice that you are understanding about your DH still doing x-mas and Easter with his family. I have flown out to CA the last two years during x-mas to visit my folks, but had mixed feelings about being part of the x-mas day celebration. Though my mom keeps it very low key and pagan.<br><br>
For your laughs: two years ago, I took dd to hear my mom sing in the choir for x-mas eve service. DD was 2.5 mths. We were there early, and we walked in, the youth director STORMED dd and said that she would be JUST PERFECT to play baby Jesus in the manger for tonight's pageant. LOL<br><br>
I politely refused, that was going TOO far, and explained that dd was Jewish and it wasn't right, and plus my DH would KILL me. They said well Jesus was Jewish, too, but I held my ground.<br><br>
Anyhow, welcome <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Hello B'shert and lerlerler!!!<br><br>
That link is crazy.<br><br><br>
My dh wants me to share with you a quote from my 2.5 yo dd. Dh has been teaching dd about the nature of G-d, apparently.<br><br>
I asked dd, "Who is Hashem?"<br><br>
Dd replies, "Hashem is a guy. Hashem is here; Hashem is e-re-where."<br><br>
I'm pretty sure she meant, "Hashem is G-d," not, "Hashem is a guy." :LOL
 

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Hey, new posters <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wave.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wave"><br><br>
Just to be neurotic, I think there's a poster "Beshert" as well as the new poster "B'shert." But don't quote me on that one. So we'll keep ourselves straight that way ... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Any interesting Chanuka recipes? Or did we do that already? Hey, do it again. If we did, I forgot ... needing something fried yet not involving potatos.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Welcome!!!<br><br>
Amy - I have a really good recipe for schnitzel baked in a bit of oil in the oven, instead of actually being fried. It saves a major mess, is healthier and no one knows but you...would that help you out?
 

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Amy - I have a really good recipe for schnitzel baked in a bit of oil in the oven, instead of actually being fried. It saves a major mess, is healthier and no one knows but you...would that help you out?</div>
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Hugely.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I'a'i'a, it's not a blanket prohibition against birth control ... but no, I'm not interested in any. Am about to be b'H 42, and figure it's been in G!d's hands all this time, may as well keep it that way. My own meshugas, right?<br><br>
Amazing to me, though, how much effort, in my much-younger days (not to mention pre-religious days), I put into birth control ... time, effort, and money ... and then when we first wanted to become pregnant it took so much effort, too. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> Mindblowing. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"><i>Ha'kol bi'ydey Shamayim</i> (it's all in Heaven's "hands"), right? Well, IMNSVHO, that is ... :LOL<br><br><br><br><br>
Totally irrelevant to anything, I have been trying to brush up on my Hebrew (more like learn in the first place :LOL) and have found some great interactive sites for Hebrew learning, if anyone is interested in links. Some might be good for older homeschoolers, too. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Will come back & post 'em later ... <i>bli neder</i> (no promises)
 

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I also need recipes! Chava you thought you had a almond coated chicken recipe? I bought crushed almonds today so LMK if you have that <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br><br>
I am on atkins - and still in the induction phase - so flour, potatoes, sugar are out... just veggies, meat, eggs... anything like that <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
of course I'll be making latkes for everyone else <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/bag.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Bag">:
 

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Abby - a belated mazal tov. I'm sure your whole family is so excited. All those girl cousins have another boy in their lives!<br><br>
Welcome new imamas (that's supposed to be imas and mamas merged together).<br><br>
Actually we're more like emamas since we're all here on MDC.<br><br>
Hannukah - I'm really excited for it but to me it always signifies - wow, winter is really here. I bought a huge jug of olive oil for our oil menorah (which was lit at our wedding - 1st night of Hannukah - and given to us as a wedding gift by my parents). I always mean to check to see if we have enough wicks, but then never do. Oh well, hopefully it will work out. We light a 2nd menorah with candles (I felt weird buying them at a drug store and seeing they're made in China but it was more convenient than getting to a Judaica store or Kosher food mart).<br><br>
I'm a little overwhelmed by the idea of frying up a huge pan of latkes...with DD crawling / walking around that kitchen floor and all. Tonight we had enchiladas and fried the leftover tortillas in just about 3/4 an inch of oil, so that's a good option for alternatives to latkes. I think both corn and flour tortillas would work.<br><br>
Anyone have a family tradition of duck on Hannukah? I really wanted goose a few years ago but apparantly I'm living like 50 years too late. I thought, living in Brooklyn, the heart of kosher shopping in the US, I could find it no problem. Think again. Kosher goose is pretty much not available any more, at least according to 2 butchers there. I know it sounds very xmas-like but apparantly duck or goose are actually Hannukah-dik because of their greasy messes.<br><br>
BC - I guess anything that is elective surgery is scary to me...but also I guess because when I was 7 and I remember visiting my DM in the hospital after the birth of my sister - she was in a wheelchair (mom, not sis) with an IV, and it was only because she had her tubes tied after the birth...that vision really stuck with me.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/duh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="duh"> I knew there was a new thread but forgot that I wouldn't automatically be subbed to it.......<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/Welcome.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="welcome"> B'shert and <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/partytime.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="partytime"> Abby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br><br>
Channukah! We have a little sign hanging up in our living room and some clings on the bathroom mirror. That's all we did at home growing up also. My mom used to say it was because she thought lights and such were "too Christian" but I think it was really because of the town we lived in, she was afraid to put anything where other people could see it. Actually that's why we have our clings in the bathroom- sure we live in a "progressive" area of a big city but it's still the deep South and it's still pretty scary........And we do a Menorah, just one, and LOTS of homemade Channukah crafts with ds like stickers, drawing, etc.<br><br>
We do gifts as well- I see nothing wrong or anti-NFL about gift-giving, actually I LOVE doing it and wish I could do it more if funds/time permitted. We have a combination of homemade (well, me-made as dp is not crafty at all) and store-bought for ds and other family members. We do little gifts on the first seven nights and a bigger thing on the eighth. I am still working on wrapping stuff for everyone as I wrap in homemade fabric bags so it takes time.<br><br>
For Channukah dinners I'm making one fried item each night. Some of the things I plan to do are: traditional latkes, latkes with sweet potatos (these will be spicy!), malai kofta and pakoras, enchiladas (w/ fried tortillas), falafel and.....I'm out of ideas after this. I just found a recipe for some Tibetan food, dumplings that can be fried, so maybe that? Probably leftovers too b/c I have to give a paper this week also. I'm nervous though b/c we had a grease fire a few weeks ago. I don't have a deep fryer so I fry on the stove in a deep pan which isn't safe, I know. BTW ds is NEVER in the kitchen when I fry b/c of the grease fire. Thankfully he was upstairs with dp when it happened.<br><br>
peace<br>
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Hi to everyone new! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hola.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hola">:<br><br>
Andrea, I got the puzzle today. PM your address, I'll mail it tomorrow.<br><br>
Birth control, well, we're not doing anything. I'm pretty old, I'm still nursing, and we wouldn't care if we had another, so we are letting things be. It doesn't look likely that we'll get pregnant again. However, I don't have a problem with permanent birth control, and my ex dh had a vas after we had number 4.
 
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