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Hi ladies,

I was just wondering if any Southcoast mammas had any experience with Jordan Hospital and their OB/Gyns? We're not pg yet but am hoping to be soon. I know Jordan does vbacs and waterbirths, both that I would like to do for next pregnancy. Any info, suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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Hi Ann,

I hear great things about Jordan, too. I had my last dd @ Tobey Hospital in Wareham as that's where my NMW delivers out of. It is an older hospital, but their maternity ward is great & I simply cannot say enough wonderful things about the nurses there. They were incredibly fabulous! And Louise, my NMW is also top notch... pm me if you're interested in getting her #.

Happy ttc-ing!
 

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Oh, just one more thing... are you sure that Jordan does waterbirths? I know that a few of the hospitals will let you labor in water, but most make you get out of the tub for the actual birth. At least that's the case @ both Tobey & Falmouth hospitals. (Altho, I hear that Falmouth actually only has one birthing tub & it's portable so it's not always available to you. Tobey has a whirlpool tub in it's delivery rooms)

I'm pretty sure that Tobey will let you do a v-bac & I know that Falmouth will not.
 

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Thanks Kym! Falmouth will not do a vbac, that's where I had my c-section. I had my annual last week and was speaking to my OB about a vbac. He said if next baby is as big or bigger than Rhiannon (she was 9.1 lbs, positioned wrong and got stuck in my pubic bone, and meconium in the fluid, after 22 hours of labor it was section time) then he won't let me go to Tobey for a vbac that he will want to do a repeat section. I don't want a section unless it's medically necessary (with Rhiannon it was). Obviously health and safety come first.
My dh was speaking to someone who's wife did a waterbirth at Jordan recently (I think it was within the past few months). So, I'm pretty sure they do them. Hopefully they still will. I didn't even know Falmouth had a portable birthing tub. Thanks! I think I will pm you for that #! lol
 

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Yes, Jordan does waterbirths. They have a specific room set up for it. I had my DD at Jordan, using Amy from Pilgrim Shores OBGYN (she's a CNM). She is fantastic, I am seeing her for this pg at the moment. There are three midwives with that practice, there is always one on call, however one of them is more medical than the others. Overall, it is a good practice for midwives, IMO, especially Amy. She is very supportive of natural, intervention-free birth.
 

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Thanks Meghan! I have been checking their website out. At a baby fair a few months ago they had a booth set up so I got to speak to them briefly. They seemed interested when I was talking to them. I just think it's time for me to find a medical person who shares the same views as myself.
Oh, and I love your screen name! lol Good luck with your pg and delivery!
 

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Hi Rhiasmum,

Here is a great website with info comparing services and offerings at southcoast and cape hospitals.

www.birthyearnetwork.org (look under birth services)

Toby and Falmouth do not do VBAC's (hosp admin policy, not practitioner preference at all!!) So, even though I recommend Louise as the ultimate in care because (besides homebirth, but of course I am biased
) of her 5% c/s rate and she takes call for all of her clients, unfortunately with her you can't have a vbac or waterbirth. (again, not her preference at all).

There may be a portable birth birth tub at Falmouth but from what I understand it has never been approved for that purpose...the person to confirm or deny this would be Linda Sayers (one of the head nurses and an awesome person!!!)...you can call her up on the maternity ward and if she is not around leave her a message...she takes a week or so to get back sometimes. If someone were to really push it and had a practitioner who was supportive of doing this they might be able to pave the way. However, Falmouth doesn't do VBAC's.

The midwives at Jordan are very nice, and are able guarantee waterbirth now that there are three of them and they have full coverage. (But check that because that might change if someone goes on an extended vacation???) I do know from speaking with them that they are very selective about choosing who is allowed an attempt at VBAC (actually we had this conversation at the baby fair at the votec this spring)...you must be very assertive if you want one and they seem iffy on it. I am not sure why this is because every woman deserves to try and most women are successful...but, it may have to do with their backup docs? Also this may affect your ability to have a waterbirth...best check. I am sure they will do more frequent monitoring, which everyone does for a vbac...but this can certainly be done with the hand held doppler or a telemetry type fetal monitor system for the tub...but the question will be do they offer this or not for vbac. I would also ask what their c/s rate is as a practice of midwives and what their vbac rate is.

If you want to look further there are probably some great options in BOS and of course there is the homebirth option where practice is evidence based not backup or trend based care...of course homebirth isn't for everyone. Let me know and I can see what I can find out from childbirth professionals up that way. What makes me cheezed is the lack of options for women in the hospital. I will stop now before I really get going.


Also, in case you are interested...ICAN (International Cesarean Awareness Network) is a great place for info and support regarding vbac and the Lamaze website hosts Henci Goer and has a lot of vbac info...she is a research specialist on VBAC and wrote the Thinking Woman's Guide to Pregnancy and Childbirth. You can even email her and she will respond. These sites easily accessed by a search on the web.

Have you thought about a doula? I am sure you know about this option as you sound like you are doing great research! But, I truly think they can be very helpful to families giving birth in the hospital...helping women achieve their birth goals and helping partners help the mom. Not for everyone, but I really can say that every time I have worked with couples at hospital birth they are very grateful.

All the best in your search...hope this is helpful! Paige
 

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Paige, you rock! I didn't know any info about VBAC b/c it's not an issue for me. I second getting a doula though, especially if you want a VBAC. Also, definitely consider homebirth if that's something you think you may be interested in.
 

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Paige, thank you soooooo much! I actually was going to train to be a doula myself but it didn't work out. I will definetly look into one when we get pg. My dh won't go for a homebirth. I tried talking him into it when I was pg with Rhiannon and he just wasn't interested. After laboring with him and a nurse though I do think a doula would have been the way to go. Hopefully for next time! Again, thank you so much! I have a lot of research to do! lol
 

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You cannot do a waterbirth with VBAC at Jordan, I checked. You have to be on the EFM the whole time and they don't have telemetry units for underwater.

I had a mixed experience at Jordan, I think a lot of people know that at this point. I hear amazing things about the midwife that Meghan went to, and she assisted at my c/s and was really awesome-- I REALLY wish I had seen her for prenatals during my pregnancy, but hindsight is 20-20. The doc who did my c/s was also amazing and I have no complaints about him (on the contrary, I love the guy, he was so supportive and only considered a c/s after days and days of labor), but he's not with the practice-- he was on-call on the BirthPlace ward only and will be moving out of state very soon if he hasn't already. The nurses are wonderful as well, the pedi practice who does the rotations, not so great. My other concern was that when I was induced, one of the docs in the practice offered Cytotec after a VE found a Bishop score of 0. Just Google Cytotec if you don't know why that concerned me so much-- never mind even considering induction on a woman with a Bishop score of 0. I said no and we came back a week later for the induction.

One of my friends had a successful VBAC there recently and from what I gather it was also a mixed experience. The doc who did her first c/s wouldn't take her on as a VBAC patient, she saw her FP for the prenatal care and the OB on a consultant (??) basis. She had the monitor and an IV the whole time, and was offered pit. And they scheduled a RCS for her for the Monday after she hit 40w (which was like a Thursday or Friday IIRC).

BUT......they do offer VBAC. If you're planning on going to a hospital for VBAC, they may be your only option locally.
 

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Well, the waterbirth for me is not something I have my heart set on just something I'd like to try. At Falmouth they let me go in the tub while I was monitored. I'm really more interested in having the vbac than another c-section. Thank you so much ladies for all your info!
Does anyone have any personal experience with South Shore Hospital? It's a bit farther than I'd like to go but for a vbac I'll probably travel just about anywhere! lol
 

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Hi Ann,

I would consider really having a strong dialogue with the midwives at Jordan about the difference between air and water labor/birth and why vbac is not avail in water (this should make no difference at all). Are they missing the water telemetry monitoring system? How much does it cost? Could they get it? Perhaps you could donate it. I think Louise the cnm at Toby hospital has this system...they could call her and chat with her about it...cost, protocol, etc. Would they be willing to push this within their practice...with their doctors? Could you meet with the docs about this too, to help in the effort? You could also contact ICAN to find out what hospitals are doing VBAC waterbirth and get copies of their VBAC waterbirth protocol...and the docs using them...this way the Jordan practice has an example to refer to and contacts to chat with. Have all this together when you approach the practice. The bottom line is...where is the medical evidence to prove that waterbirth is more dangerous for a vbac? You could pave the way for other moms too...if you are up to the giant effort (which I would not blame you if you were not...but, you do have time on your side). Oh, and one more idea, would they let you sign a waiver, or have that as part of a waterbirth vbac protocol, if they are so nervous about it.

Would it be easier to drive to BOS? I put a query out to my midwives email list to ask about the possibility of waterbirth at bos hospitals for vbac.

Would it be easier to convince your husband to have a homebirth than driving to BOS for your birth, or convincing the Jordan hosp practice? Or is that a bad idea?

Good luck, and I will post any info I get regarding BOS vbac water birth.

Stay cool! Paige
 

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Well, the waterbirth for me is not something I have my heart set on just something I'd like to try. At Falmouth they let me go in the tub while I was monitored. I'm really more interested in having the vbac than another c-section. Thank you so much ladies for all your info!
Does anyone have any personal experience with South Shore Hospital? It's a bit farther than I'd like to go but for a vbac I'll probably travel just about anywhere! lol
There are a few CNMs and OB/GYNs at South Shore that will do VBACs. But South Shore has one of the highest cesarean rates in the state. PM me if you want more details (incl. names).
 

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I had mixed experiences at S. Shore, too. I think that was because of my particular complications, my midwife, and then being totally overwhelmed after the birth. The nurses were great and tried to be helpful, it is just that with every nurse I would hear different and opposite breastfeeding advice.

LMK if I should elaborate or pull up an old thread.... it sounds like you may decide to pursue other options....

Jessica
 

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See, for Rhiannon's birth, I loved the nurses at Falmouth. They were fantastic. We did have some issues with latch but I think that was because I was pumped so full of IV fluids and then antibiotics because I had an infection after delivery (they told me it was because my water broke and I had been in labor so long and then the section). But we had a wonderful nurse who gets assigned the "problem" breastfeeders. We still see her once in a while at our support group.
I at first loved my obs. There were 4 in the practice (all men) who delivered. I got the absolute last one I would have wanted to deliver my baby. I'd been told he was a "cutter" and that if I got him I'd get a section. My water broke about 2am on a Tuesday and we got to the hospital around 4am. The docs changed shifts and I saw him about 8am. He said to me "you may as well get the epidural now because you're going to have a c-section". I laughed at him and told him to go to hell. Little did I know hours later it would be true. I don't know if he said that because of experience (he's a dinosaur) or because it was what he wanted. I've gone over it so many times in my head of what I should have done differently but what ifs will drive you crazy so I've let them go. All that matters is Rhiannon's here and healthy.
I asked about South Shore hospital because someone who used to attend our breastfeeding support group had her vbac there. She said it was a wonderful experience and highly recommended them. Of course I don't know who her doc was. I may be able to find out.
Anywho, lol, Paige, THANK YOU for all your info. I wish I had met you when I was pg with Rhiannon! Since I'm not pg at the moment I can do some of this research and arm myself for when I am. I grew up in Boston. While I wouldn't be thrilled about traveling there for every doc appointment, I think I'd do it if I found what I wanted you know? My neighbor is pg and travels to Worcester for her prenatals because she lived there and that's where her doc is. She has the kid's ped on Cape though. If she can travel to Worcester I think I could make it to Boston! lol
You ladies are great! I'm so glad I found this board! Thank you so much!
 

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I'll be having a baby at Jordan any day now. I am also having a vbac. I love the midwives at Pilgrim Shores. I have had most of my appts. with Amy but have also met with Mary and Katie because you never know who will be on call. Coming from the southcoast, the offices in Duxbury and Plymouth aren't as far as they used to be now that Rte. 44 is finished.
This is a great link for comparison of hospital statistics. It is a hard descision to make. Best of luck!
 

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I just saw that you are coming from the Cape. (I'm in New Bedford.) They have an office in Sandwich, where Mary is. She is terrific.
 

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I met Mary only once (I see Amy for almost all of my visits), but when I met her I thought she was such a trip! She has one of those presences that just take over the whole room, you know? Very enthusiastic, especially about natural birth. She was very excited that I was (am)still nursing DD and plan to tandem nurse. She and Amy are your best advocates for natural births, IMO, at that practice. It is good to be familiar with all three though, just in case, like Robyn said, you never know who will be on call when you go into labor. The best part about that practice is you never have to see an OB if you don't want, b/c the midwives are always on call. Although, with a VBAC it may be a different situation, I don't know. They may want you to at least be familiar with the OBs just in case. In that case, PM me and I can fill you in on at least one of the OBs there.
 

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You can PM me about the OBs if you want, too. There's one that I really, really wish I'd been seeing all along-- totally awesome woman, into a more holistic approach, and I've heard everyone who's met her say the same thing. She was very sympathetic at my postpartum visit as well as when she was doing rotations in the hospital.
 
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