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For those of you who have given birth, did you do Kegels while pregnant? Did you have a tear or episiotomy? For those of you who did Kegels, do you feel like it helped to prevent tears/episiotomies, or maybe make it so they were not as bad or healed more quickly, or anything?<br><br>
Just wondering. I think I might have asked this before, but I can't remember.
 

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I only tore one time, a little bit. I didnt realize kegels were for that? I dont do them. And I pee myself regularly. I should really start. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
Perineal massage is great. Hey, isnt there a thread for that?<br><br>
Use Olive Oil or something on the area between your butt and your vagina 5-10 minutes a night and massage that area. It helps it to get strechy.<br><br>
I think the person guiding your pushing is probably the most helpful, or you being mindful of your pushing.
 

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I hate kegels. Like, they make me want to barf. I've never done them regularly at all. I've had 3 births. At #1 I got a big episiotomy, at #2 I tore, and at #3 I had a perfectly intact perineum afterward. So, how helpful is that? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue"><br><br>
The biggest differences were that at my first & 2nd births I was on my back & my pushing was totally coached. At my 3rd I was either squatting on leaning on my side, no one coached my pushing at all, & my midwife massaged my perineum during crowning. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"><br><br>
I know that kegels are supposed to help you not pee yourself. I really SHOULD do kegels for that reason. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/loveeyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Loveeyes">: lol
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I only tore one time, a little bit. I didnt realize kegels were for that? I dont do them. And I pee myself regularly. I should really start. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
Perineal massage is great. Hey, isnt there a thread for that?</div>
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Yeah, I didn't wanna hijack it with my question though! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">The biggest differences were that at my first & 2nd births I was on my back & my pushing was totally coached. At my 3rd I was either squatting on leaning on my side, no one coached my pushing at all, & my midwife massaged my perineum during crowning. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"></div>
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Ah, interesting. I had read in a couple places that a strong Kegel muscle makes it less likely that you'll tear or need an episiotomy (not like all women who get them 'need' them at all), but I was curious to see if anyone here felt like it had an effect on that - it seems to be more about positioning and easing the baby out during pushing and having someone help support your perineum with massage or compresses or oil rather than prenatal perineal massage or Kegels, but I dunno!
 

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I would think lot of loving with the partner would help with keeping the area flexible. I didn't tear with my Dd, but I had a crazy sex drive during that pregnancy and I think that may have helped. Not that sex is anything like passing a head out of your vagina.
 

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I had a tiny, tiny, microscopic tear with #1 and I have only ever been very random with kegels. Like 10 a week? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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As a childbirth educator I have to butt in and say-<br><br>
Kegels are the #1 beneficial exercise to help women avoid uterine prolapse and potential hysterectomies later in life.<br><br>
That being said, yes they do suck. But I do them regularly. I had no clue what they were with DS#1 and I had a top and bottom episiotomy (don't ask... i know I shoulda filed a malpractice suit... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: ) I peed myself regularly afterward if I coughed, sneezed, laughed to hard, etc. Then I learned about Kegels and the benefits and used them to help correct the problems I had been previously having. Not only do I no longer pee myself- I had a TINY tear with DS#2 who was MUCH bigger and had a GINORMOUS head!<br><br>
I LOVE kegels for that reason. It was horribly embarrassing to have incontinence problems and I'm so glad I've been able to correct them through a simple exercise.
 

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With Ella, i did not tear at all (I had a tiny labial laceration, but truthfully i think this was from the MW apprentice's watch (I KNOW, eww)) and only did the random kegel here and there. In between pregnancies I did them more, mostly for bladder control and because they were fun to do during sex, lol. This pregnancy i do them mainly during my yoga routine - being aware of that part of your body makes it easier to control, so i don't think of it so much as a strength/flexibility thing, but just knowing how to tighten it and relax it during pushing. It's not a part of our body we give a ton if thought to in our every day lives, but becoming familiar with how to control those muscles can make pushing both more productive and more controlled.<br><br>
As far as keeping from tearing (because really, as long as you are not having the vacuum or forceps, there is no reason for an episiotomy) I think pushing when your body tells you to vs when someone looking at a machine tells you to is huge, as is being in a position that does not crunch your tailbone/work against gravity. And, of course, being able to feel the area. My poor sister ended up with a 4th degree tear because she could not feel when to back off a bit on the pushing, due to her epidural (and the nurses were looking at the machine, not her perineum). <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> The scarring really messed with her sex drive, and makes pooing painful. Sad sad.
 

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I did them a lot with baby #1 and didn't tear or anything, just 2 little "skidmarks" that I think I might not have gotten if I'd been sitting up more.<br><br>
Kegels strengthen the muscles of your pelvic floor and an episiotomy is just supposed to make the opening bigger for baby to pass through.<br><br>
EXCEPT- an episiotomy cuts through muscles, too- a tear rarely will. Have you ever tried to rip a steak against the grain? Or chicken breast? it shreds with the grain, but the muscle fibers will never rip across.<br><br>
I didn't kegel much with baby #2 and I also didn't tear with her but I noticed, after she was born, that sex was so very weak and I couldn't hold my bladder very well. I began to do them after the birth and it took several months to feel like I had muscles there again.<br><br>
Since then, I do them at every stop light, my old Bradley teacher told us a very graphic and obscene story that makes me think of sex at every stoplight and now when I am driving, I kegel. When she first told us, she gave us a little stop-light fridge magnet that could help us when we were at home, but that was 15 years ago, who keeps a fridge magnet for 15 years (other than my grandma)<br><br>
After giving birth, chances are you WON't even feel the muscles flex when you do it. Keep doing it, though- they'll come back. It's been almost 40 hrs since Evie was born and I'm just now starting to feel it. Sex is important, I don't want to lose it again!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I hate kegels. Like, they make me want to barf. I've never done them regularly at all. I've had 3 births. At #1 I got a big episiotomy, at #2 I tore, and at #3 I had a perfectly intact perineum afterward. So, how helpful is that? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue"></div>
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My God, I thought the kegel hatred was just me! They really do feel 'icky' somehow. Not in an "I'm not in touch with my yoni and my sexuality" way, more like when you reach too far with a muscle or strain your eyes trying to look to far into your peripheral vision.<br><br>
I still try to do them occasionally. But I don't succeed too well.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">My God, I thought the kegel hatred was just me! They really do feel 'icky' somehow. Not in an "I'm not in touch with my yoni and my sexuality" way, more like when you reach too far with a muscle or strain your eyes trying to look to far into your peripheral vision.<br><br>
I still try to do them occasionally. But I don't succeed too well.</div>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> We had this same conversation in our Nov05ddc! And *I* was shocked to find someone else who said kegels made them feel kind of sick. lol They nake me feel mildly nauseas, or kind of like when someone sticks their finger too far into my belly button. They just make me go "ew."
 

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I refuse to do them. They make me nauseous and disgusted.
 

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Huh. When I do 'em I get really horny. I'm personally a big fan of them because they have made my orgasms SO MUCH STRONGER - plus they feel good so I do them every day anyway. I'm kind of hopeful that it will prove useful to me. Heh.<br><br>
Anyway I have good support from my MWs in terms of warm compresses and stuff - they feel that perineal massage in labor can increase the risk of tears (I've heard that in some places and the exact opposite in other places) but that guidance/support during pushing and warm compresses can help a lot.
 
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