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Hate to say it but the poor girl was obese and not healthy. I feel horrible about this as I have a ten year old girl. No child dying is ever not a tragedy. The outrage here should be the horrible American food industry and disgusting food recommendations from the fda and doctors that cause obesity in childhood and thus illness, susceptibility and death.
if you watch the video, her parents are extremely obese
 

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My beautiful girl was taken from me because people are too damn selfish to care about what could happen to others. I wasn't. We weren't. We wore our mask because there are too many in our tribe who are at risk. My daughter was not at risk. And now she is gone."
They were vaccinated - is it possible THEY gave her covid? Imo, yes. Esp since they're claiming no on in her class had covid.

And, obviously, she did have some kind of risk, if it killed her that fast. imo

 

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Another factor in childhood obesity is the use of antibiotics. Discussed in the book "Missing Microbes".
Very good point! And people don’t restore with probiotics after. Any RX for antibiotics should include a follow up course of potent probiotics.
i have learned to nod and say yes when the rx thrm. Just fill it to not be the ‘bad parent’ and off it goes into the earthquake box for when we truly might need antibiotics. Growing up (and I’m an elder millennial) in Europe I was given antibiotics maybe once. When I had a fever my parents gave me tepid baths, cold wet wash cloths on the calves and facial saunas with salt water. I don’t recall getting Tylenol or Motrin. It wasn’t the culture. When we had colds, we stayed at home until better, sleeping, drinking camomile tea and such. I think it’s a lot more drugged up now back home but nowhere near as bad as the USA. Drugs are always the first choice here it seems from the people and doctors I’ve met. 🤷‍♀️
 

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Very good point! And people don’t restore with probiotics after. Any RX for antibiotics should include a follow up course of potent probiotics.
i have learned to nod and say yes when the rx thrm. Just fill it to not be the ‘bad parent’ and off it goes into the earthquake box for when we truly might need antibiotics. Growing up (and I’m an elder millennial) in Europe I was given antibiotics maybe once. When I had a fever my parents gave me tepid baths, cold wet wash cloths on the calves and facial saunas with salt water. I don’t recall getting Tylenol or Motrin. It wasn’t the culture. When we had colds, we stayed at home until better, sleeping, drinking camomile tea and such. I think it’s a lot more drugged up now back home but nowhere near as bad as the USA. Drugs are always the first choice here it seems from the people and doctors I’ve met. 🤷‍♀️
My family mostly avoided doctors. My mother put us to bed when we were sick and gave us peppermint tea. All 5 of us survived. We didn't even have aspirin in the house.
 

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I never took an aspirin until I was in college.

That girl in VA who died - I heard on a radio report that she had a job in the school - to escort sick children to the office. She had been doing it for a while and asked to be excused from this duty.

The news report also noted that her parents had requested a week before that the school/district do away with face masks. Got to get that in!

ny RX for antibiotics should include a follow up course of potent probiotics.
One would think this would be a given.
 
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i would like to know what her mother defines as 'health'
What people commonly refer to as healthy in the USA isn’t quite healthy. A few pounds overweight is fine. Obesity isn’t healthy. A diet of processed foods isn’t healthy. You can be skinny yet have horrible health due to malnutrition (and I would say any food that’s advertised on tv is not nutritious / empty calories with inflammatory and carcinogenic additives). So when articles say healthy - it doesn’t mean truly healthy.
 

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What people commonly refer to as healthy in the USA isn’t quite healthy. A few pounds overweight is fine. Obesity isn’t healthy. A diet of processed foods isn’t healthy. You can be skinny yet have horrible health due to malnutrition (and I would say any food that’s advertised on tv is not nutritious / empty calories with inflammatory and carcinogenic additives). So when articles say healthy - it doesn’t mean truly healthy.
And i can't help but wonder -- if lockdown was still in place with remote learning, would the girl have caught covid and died?
Along with countless other issues since schools opened....teachers dying too, staff shortages, kids in hospitals, or home with covid now...some kids are dying...some kids are having lifelong issues from the vaccine...

Was opening school really smart in some places??

and the hospital shortages are another issue altogether...how does that help kids who are in the hospital with covid?

Did that girl die due to hospital negligence, understaffing, and improper protocol?
 

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And i can't help but wonder -- if lockdown was still in place with remote learning, would the girl have caught covid and died?
Some kids are better off at home and some kids are better off in school. Schools absolutely should be open, that doesn't mean everyone needs to send their kids to school. Virtual schools existed even before the pandemic, and they still exist now.
 

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Some kids are better off at home and some kids are better off in school. Schools absolutely should be open, that doesn't mean everyone needs to send their kids to school. Virtual schools existed even before the pandemic, and they still exist now.
not in New York City...no distance learning for public school....in person only..

and it still doesn't answer the question of 'would the girl have gotten sick if school had remained closed'
 

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Hey, I think the main concern should be the health and Sanitation of children. However, online classes have actually deteriorated the learning process for children especially those who are in a disadvantaged position. I think schools could be opened for them in order to foster a sense of belonging in that environment. Also, reorganization of the curriculum to focus more on language and mathematics is necessary which requires constant reminding of concepts.
lol....reorganization of the entire USA public school standards need major improvements all over. That will never happen, though. So much easier to control a population when mind control has taken place, and been implemented.
 

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Some kids are better off at home and some kids are better off in school. Schools absolutely should be open, that doesn't mean everyone needs to send their kids to school. Virtual schools existed even before the pandemic, and they still exist now.
my issue is elementary schools, where vaccinated teachers/staff CAN spread covid to kids, as we are seeing....then there's other family members within a household that could be responsible for the spread to those under 12, too...

Virtual online public school did not exist for most of the country before the lockdown - private schools, maybe...public school for a regular student - not really.
 

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Some kids are better off at home and some kids are better off in school. Schools absolutely should be open, that doesn't mean everyone needs to send their kids to school. Virtual schools existed even before the pandemic, and they still exist now.
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New York City will no longer have a remote schooling option come fall, Mayor Bill de Blasio said Monday, a major step toward fully reopening the nation’s largest school system and a crucial marker in the city’s economic recovery after more than a year of disruptions caused by the pandemic.
 

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Vox has a rather radical article on the risk of Covid to kids - which includes this nifty chart from the CDC.

How the Risk of Covid-19 for Kids Compares to Other Dangers
Experts maintain that the risks most children face from Covid-19 are low, even with the delta variant. “The risk in children has not changed with the new variant as far as we can tell,” Betsy Herold, a pediatric infectious disease physician at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine, told me.
Herold estimates that less than 2 percent of children known to be infected by the coronavirus are hospitalized, and less than 0.03 percent of those infected die.
While there isn’t as much research on children and Covid-19 as experts would prefer, the data we do have suggests the risk of longer-term consequences, like long Covid or MIS-C (in which several organs become inflamed), is also very low.
...experts, on the whole, are optimistic so far that children’s natural defenses against the virus have held up. That resilience isn’t just good news for parents; it’s a hopeful sign for the future of Covid-19. As the virus becomes endemic, future generations might be regularly exposed to SARS-CoV-2 at a young age. But children’s natural defenses are likely to crush it, building immunity, piece by piece, that could help shield them for a long time.
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The lawsuits are beginning


Wisconsin parents file lawsuits against school districts over their children's Covid-19 infections

Wisconsin parents are suing two school districts over their Covid-19 mitigation efforts, arguing that the systems failed to protect their children from getting infected.
The first lawsuit was filed in federal court last week by Shannon Jensen against the Waukesha School District, the Waukesha Board of Education, a number of school board members and district employees, according to the court documents.
Then Monday, Gina Kildahl filed a separate complaint against the Fall Creek School District, the board, its superintendent and individual board members for "recklessly refusing" to implement Covid-19 mitigation strategies recommended by the CDC, according to the complaint.
"By bringing students back to class around unmasked staff, reinstituting extracurricular activities, and allowing potentially contagious visitors and volunteers into the schools without masks, FCSD and the BOARD threw students into a Covid-19 'snake pit' creating an affirmative duty to keep their students safe from Covid-19," Kildahl's complaint read.
 
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