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Okay, I apologize if this question has already been asked somewhere..and if it has could someone point me in the right direction..please?<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/innocent.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shy"><br><br>
We have decided to use kissaluvs fitteds for the newborn stage and then switch to pockets and all in ones (for the most part) after that.<br><br>
I am starting to wonder if I have enough already or if I need more....<br><br>
So far I have 20 kissaluvs fitteds and about 5 covers --a few of them are bummis whisper wraps and a few are the bummis whisper pants (free with an order).<br><br>
Is this enough? Am I using the right covers?<br><br>
Sorry, really lost and want to make sure we have a decent system to start so that we don't give up! Any help is greatly appreciated.
 

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I haven't actually used them yet, but I've read 2-3 dozen, which seemed like so much! i just got a dozen and then a couple dozen prefolds.
 

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I think if I were in your shoes, I would try to get by with the 20 size 0s and then get a handful of size 1s as your baby gets bigger.<br><br>
They recommend 24 diapers if you are going to wash every other day -- 12 to diaper that day and 12 in the wash.<br><br>
You could practically do that now with your 20.<br><br>
So I would sit tight and try it for a week or so. If you are short a handful of diapers, you can always add to your stash once the baby is here then do an extra wash or two until the diapers arrive.<br><br>
Sounds to me like you are in good shape!<br><br>
ETA: BSWW fit beautifully over Kissaluvs, so to answer your cover question: yes. You are doing fine there too.
 

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We had 1 1/2 dozen Kissaluvs and 6 Bummis covers for the newborn stage but we would have to fall back on the stack of infant prefolds several times a week. I would say that 2 - 2 1/2 dozen would have been better if we had been trying to avoid prefolds altogether.
 

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I bought a stash of 35 Kissaluvs and thought I had way TOO MUCH, but as it turned out it was just the right amount, we never had to worry about running out. When we were busy, or our son was sick or whatever, it was nice to have a big rotation so we were able to go an extra 10 hours or an extra day or whatever was needed w/o running out of diapers since we didn't have anything for backup! Also for me, I plan on using my stash again so the larger rotation kept them in great condition and ready to go for another baby (or two...)<br>
As for covers, I had a couple BSWW that I got cheap or free, can't remember, but although they covered well they were too plasticy for me. It felt weird putting that cover over a great cotton diaper. I ended up using 2 wool covers (1 hand knit, WAHM and 1 Loveybums) for most of the time with those BSWW as backups. I also had a stacinator for night time, although in those early days my son pooped every diaper change <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> so I changed him all day/night long.
 

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I think you might find that in the early weeks 20 diapers might not be enough you will have to do laundry daily to have enough diapers I would say bare minimum is 24, Maybe you want to be safe and get 12 prefolds?<br><br>
bummis super whisper wraps are good, not my favorite cover but they will cover the Kl0's I prefer the imse vimse cover I think its a lot softer
 

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We had 2 dozen newborn diapers and it wasn't enough to wash every other day. i was having to wash about every one and a half days with 2 dozen<br>
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My newborns have gone through 18-22 diapers a day. I would get at least a dozen prefolds to add to your stash.
 

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Thank you for all of your help!!<br><br>
I really appreciate it! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I think you'll be fine with what you've got. You can always get some prefolds and use them for backup.
 

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Thanks for posting this. I got 20 fitteds in total (12 Kissaluvs size 0, 4 Imse Vimse flannelette, 4 Imse Vimse terry) and no covers as of yet. I'm six months pregnant so I think I still have time. Dh suggested to save money we wash every day (I'm doing laundry as it is every day anyway) so I thought 20 was enough.<br><br>
Do newborns go through as many diapers in one day? I thought it was 10-12 diapers a day, not the amounts I've been hearing. Aren't cloth diapers supposed to be more absorbent?<br><br>
Anyway, I'll be adding two one-size BumGenius to my stash when dd comes <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Thanks again!
 

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I don't believe cloth diapers are supposed to be more absorbent than disposables. Disposables are more absorbent because it has a lot of various chemical gels -- they absorb like crazy. Whereas cloth is just cloth -- you pee through and it gets soaked; the absorbency of different cloth diapers vary depending on the fabric and number of layers so some last longer than others.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I don't believe cloth diapers are supposed to be more absorbent than disposables. Disposables are more absorbent because it has a lot of various chemical gels -- they absorb like crazy. Whereas cloth is just cloth -- you pee through and it gets soaked; the absorbency of different cloth diapers vary depending on the fabric and number of layers so some last longer than others.</div>
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This and really no diaper is meant to just hold untill it can't a diaper weather cloth or sposie should be changed when ever possible when wet. Personally we went through easily 20 sposies a day as a newborn we had tons of poo diapers so yes we really had to use that many. I hope to get some fitted and then some prefolds to rounds things out. I'll likely try for a dozen fitted and 3 dozen prefolds.
 

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Oops.. I meant to say that I thought cloth diapers were more absorbent than that.. not compared to a disposable <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"><br><br>
I think I forgot how often I changed ds.. he's almost 4 and I'm forgetting a lot of stuff about newborns. I know it will come back to me. So you moms think I should get more too, huh? 22 diapers or so is probably not enough.
 

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I'd aim for at least 30 personally, If cost is a factor prefolds can help round out the stash nicely and those can also be ued as doublers latter.
 

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We loved our kissaluvs. We did the same, started with them and are now moving into the one size fits all pocket diapers and pre-folds. The kissaluvs worked great and we loved them. We had about 36 for full-time cloth diapering, and about 6 covers. I wish we had more covers, though, because our little man was a super soaker! We went through more than we thought.<br><br>
We did end up washing virtually every day, since our baby boy didn't like the wet feeling you get with cloth. But don't worry, it only raised our water bill about $2 a month!<br><br>
One major suggestion, we couldn't survive without the mini-diaper shower attachment to our toilet! It's like a high powered kitchen hose/sprayer, only it hooks right to your toilet. The best $30 I ever spent on anything for the baby. It sprays the pooh right into the toilet without having to dunk your hands into the toilet water. It has saved us a million times!<br><br>
Good Luck!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Oops.. I meant to say that I thought cloth diapers were more absorbent than that.. not compared to a disposable <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"><br><br>
I think I forgot how often I changed ds.. he's almost 4 and I'm forgetting a lot of stuff about newborns. I know it will come back to me. So you moms think I should get more too, huh? 22 diapers or so is probably not enough.</div>
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I have a June baby coming. I, too, keep forgetting stuff about newborns -- and then DH reminds me. Anyway, I'm aiming to wash roughly every other day (or more frequently if necessary), and I'm aiming to be on the conservative side re newborn diapers since babies do outgrown them quickly and I can always go online and order more if I find we want more. I have 1 and 1/2 dozen newborn sized prefolds, 10 fitted newborn diapers (along with various wool and PUL covers), and 2 XS/NB size AIOs. I'm aiming for 12 fitted diapers so just need two more. I also have the next size up that can be used in a pinch -- just look bulky on my expected 7lber: 2 dozen infant prefolds, 2 size S fitted diapers, and 4 size S AIOs. I'm pretty content with this quantity right now.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I have a June baby coming. I, too, keep forgetting stuff about newborns -- and then DH reminds me. Anyway, I'm aiming to wash roughly every other day (or more frequently if necessary), and I'm aiming to be on the conservative side re newborn diapers since babies do outgrown them quickly and I can always go online and order more if I find we want more. I have 1 and 1/2 dozen newborn sized prefolds, 10 fitted newborn diapers (along with various wool and PUL covers), and 2 XS/NB size AIOs. I'm aiming for 12 fitted diapers so just need two more. I also have the next size up that can be used in a pinch -- just look bulky on my expected 7lber: 2 dozen infant prefolds, 2 size S fitted diapers, and 4 size S AIOs. I'm pretty content with this quantity right now.</div>
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I think this is a good idea, to buy maybe a 1/2 dozen to a dozen in the next size up then you have lots extra if you need it and you don't have to worry about spending so much on newborn sizes
 

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All of your replies have been so helpful <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
I think that I am going to get another dozen..for now and then see if that is enough. I really want to keep this simple...and for some reason the prefolds scare me <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> ..not sure why though..maybe it is that unknown! I also really want dh to do this and I can't see him being to into the prefold thing...I think he would rather spend the money and have it be as easy for him as possible.<br><br>
I also really do not want to <i>have</i> to wash every single day. I would love to get by on every other day or every third day even....it is just too crazy around here...and again, I am looking for ease.<br><br>
I am still wondering about the covers though..I would like to have plenty (but not WAAY too many either).<br><br><span style="color:#800080;">hklinefelter22 (or anyone else!)</span>, how many would you have liked to have? What would have made it easier?<br><br>
Thanks for all of the opinions on the type of cover too. I am thinking of getting a few different kinds of covers to add to my bummis whisper wraps...I am wondering if I will be annoyed by the plastic feeling (as a pp said they were), I can see myself being bothered by this.
 

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Regarding covers, I've heard Proraps in newborn sizes work well because they have gussets and an umbillical cord notch (and they are cheap). I don't have one yet but I plan on adding one to my newborn stash. (The larger size Proraps get mixed reviews and they seem to run large.) I like the feel of my Thirsties covers (I have two XSs and 1 S) -- lighter and a bit softer than my BSWW covers (I have a 1 NB and 1 S). The Thirsties also have a nice leg gusset for those runny newborn poop. The Thirsties XS is a tad bit bigger than the NB BSWW -- by about an inch, so it may wear a tad bit longer. And consider adding a single wool soaker/shorties/wrap or two to your stash. We love wool as an overnight cover for our toddler, so I've got two wool wraps and a couple of shorties/soakers for the newborn/small stage. Nothing beats wool for breathability and keeping the bum cooler during the hot/humid summer -- PULs are the hottest and fleece is next. And as long as you don't get poop on it, they are really easy to care for -- just hang it up to air dry, then reuse; the smell magically disappears as the urine and lanolin in wool react with each other. We usually don't have to wash our night time wool pj pants (for our toddler, allowing us to skip a separate diaper cover) only once every 2-3 weeks. Even if you do get poop on wool, a good wool bar soap rubs them right off in the sink.<br><br>
By the way, you may already know this, but for cover sizing, <a href="http://www.jardinediapers.com/home.php?cat=14&sort=title&sort_direction=0&show=all" target="_blank">Jardin Diapers</a> store is great because it lists the rise, waist and leg measurements of every diaper and cover it sells. I always go there for reference to get an idea re differences in sizing among the brands, and you can see there can be quite a range -- NB BSWW has 13" rise but NB Imse Vimes, for example, has a 15" rise (which seems huge to me but then I'm expecting an average height 7lber). It doesn't sell Thirsties, but you can get those measurements at the home store <a href="http://www.babycottonbottoms.com/thirstiesdiapercover.htm" target="_blank">Baby Cotton Bottoms</a> or <a href="http://nickisdiapers.com/catalog.php?category=3" target="_blank">Nicki's Diapers</a>, which is my favorite place to buy covers and trainers because they are always free shipping and her prices are competitive, allowing me to buy just one at a time to test.
 
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