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I went, against my better judgement, to see Knocked Up with a friend last night. I knew it would be funny, but I didn't know how I'd feel about the bith scene, having heard someone (without children) say "I've seen Knocked Up and I'm never having a vaginal birth."

The first thing I liked about it was that she interviewed OBs. Nevermind that every one of them did a pelvic and she was interviewing them all in a gown, at least she interviewed them! She finally settled on a doctor who promised to be there for the birth.

When she went into labor, he was, of course, out of town. So they called all the other docs they'd interviewed and the worst one showed up for her (okay, whatever...). I was really sad about how realistic her interactions with this doctor were. There was a dramatic scene where the machine goes "ping" and everyone (male OB nurse included!) rushes in and the doctor forces himself into her to "save the baby" by repositioning baby to get her off the cord. Then he says he thinks that baby's got cord around the neck and they need to get things going. So he says to the nurse "pop the bag, start some pit and get her some meds." She objects, saying that's not her birth plan and he yells at her saying "are you the doctor or am I? We have a new birth plan, it's called "Get this baby here safely." It might have been funny, but I've read and seen birth stories where the OB says exactly that. So the father of the baby takes the doctor into the hall and tells the OB to be nicer. So the OB comes back in and says "I'm sorry, what I meant to say is 'we need to get the baby out and it would help if we could give you some medicine and break your water.'" But mom is dejected: shoulders slumped, eyes downcast, generally defeated look about her and she says, in a monotone, without looking at him "Just do what you need to do." Again, something I've seen so many times. I wanted to cry, because its so very real and happens ALL THE TIME and since this is such an outrageous comedy (I had laughed until I cried many times during the rest of the movie), I don't think it was taken seriously by anybody.

She ends up with a natural vaginal birth, but argues with the doctor at 10cm that she really does have time for an epidural, saying "no, really, I can hold it in while you give me the drugs!"
The after baby's born stuff is pretty unrealistic, too: baby is about 15 pounds and 6 months old at birth, goes straight to mom, there's not even a warmer in the room, and a nurse never touches baby or anything. Whatever...

I was also annoyed with the audience's reaction to the fact that they showed baby crowning. Everyone in the room, it seems like, said "Eww" or "gross" or (the lady behind me) "oh, no they didn't." And all of this despite multiple shots of exposed breasts previously in the movie, that no one batted and eye at. Oh, and in the crowning clips, I thought it was kinda creepy and unrealistic that there was NO pubic hair. I'm pretty sure it was a clip of a real birth (or a VERY realistic model!), but I just couldn't get over the fact that there was no hair. Very unreal to me
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All in all, entertaining, but not earth shattering for the birth community. Also not so unrealistic or dramatic that people should be turned off of birth forever (like the lady I mentioned earlier). It's a pretty good and MILD representation of hospital birth, actually.
 

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Some of those unrealistic things actually aren't so much...in the hospital, my DH caught DS and handed him to me, nobody else touched him til half an hour later when they weighed him. And I didn't have hair, though it is quite difficult to manage when you can't see over the belly.
Machine that goes ping - was this a Python referance? Seriously? That's awsome.
 

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OH, I forgot to mention that when the sister and BIL are having a fight about him not being involved enough as a father, he yells, "I can't keep up with everything I'm supposed to do...." and says something about "don't vaccinate them, don't feed them tuna fish..." I was like "hey, those kids aren't vaxed! COOL!" I'm sure no one else in the theater got it, and I'm sure it was supposed to mean that she's some crazy paranoid mom, but all I got from it was that someone in a movie chose not to vax
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Re: pubic hair. I know there are people who have none, but just to me, that's not the norm and it kinda shocked me, is all.
 

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see, i was really pleased with the birth scene. not thrilled with how she's treated, but thrilled that a) she does in fact end up with a natural birth and the OB tells her she was awesome afterwards. b) more importantly, i thought the dad's advocating for her was really terrific -- albeit in a comedic way, but he was so strong and determined for her. it gave me and dh major warm fuzzies. i also thought the lack of hair was weird, but hey -- three crowning shots still seems pretty cool to me for a hollywood movie (and yes, they were real, at least I read an article about the movie in the ny times that said so anyway). i'm not surprised by the audience reaction to it, but still... planting the seed, you know?

also, did you notice that the birth partner was one of the books the dad bought? i was thrilled! and the sister's family co-slept!

pls excuse my horrible typing... nak
 

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and did you notice the cosleeping shot at the very beginning? very cool.

no mention of breastfeeding though
 

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I went to see this movie the other night with DP and we loved it. Especially laughed during the part about the vaxes because that situation is very similar to ours... haha... I do the research on things like not vaxing and mercury in fish and he responds just like the guy in the movie!

As for the birth scenes... I liked it in that it wasn't like other movie birth scenes where the woman's water breaks in a restaurant and everyone panics and they speed to the hospital with the woman in a flurry huffing and puffing and screaming. I thought it was great how she got in the tub and the guy was like, "What is this, a water birth?" haha! And it was great to see things portrayed differently, even if it wasnt ideal. I thought it was kind of funny and weird how they showed quick little flashes of hairless yoni as she was crowning.

It made me sad on the one hand, but also was an improvement on a lot of other things I've seen in movies! I'm so lucky that my hospital birth was VERY different than a lot of horror stories similar to this.. I did think it was great how the doctor told her she did an awesome job. Not looking forward to dealing with those kinds of things when I do my first hospital birth, though...
 

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Nope, I hadn't noticed the cosleeping. Hmm...

I did notice that "The Birth Partner" was a book, but also WTE :p. I was like "PUT THAT ONE BACK!" [under my breath, of course] but I actually clapped when the DP told the OB off!! I'm sure people thought I was so obnoxious.

I do think it was a good movie, really. It was much more realistic than most birth scenes, that's FOR SURE. There was definitely no reason for someone to say "I've seen Knocked Up and I'm having a c-section," at least from what I could tell...I'm sure with other personal issues, it could contribute, but from that one comment, I expected the birth to be AWFUL and it really wasn't at all.
 

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I guess the director wanted to film a real birth for the movie, but you can't get a work permit for an unborn child, so it would violate child labor laws. So the birth scene is a model. But he tried...
 

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LOVED IT! DH and I were in a *similar situation when DD was conceived...and at times during the film we both cringed a little as some points hit close to home...but he LOVED it too!
I thought it was a really good depiction of a real couple/pregnancy/birth and of course MD/NURSE interactions. (Did anyone else LOVE the fact the OB nurse was male?, seriously have you EVER seen a male OB nurse?)
 

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I still want to see it...
 

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I guess the director wanted to film a real birth for the movie, but you can't get a work permit for an unborn child, so it would violate child labor laws. So the birth scene is a model. But he tried...
Maybe that's new... I know that the Nicole Kidman movie, Birth, had a waterbirth in it. Real. I was there with a client when they came to the birth center. It was Suzanne Arms' photographer. I watched the movie, baby comes out with both arms extended...
 

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If it had gone on much longer (the BS from the OB in the birth scene) I was almost about to leave until it was done - I kept saying (under my breath, sort of) "Oh my gawd - Oh whatever - Seriously??!?!"
. My DH kept leaning to see my face and he was laughing as was my SIL - they knew it would infurate me. It wasn't terrible though and could have been a lot worse...
My DH said that IS how it is dealing with the hospital staff (from when we did a homebirth-to-hospital transfer). That was sad.

My thought though as I left the theater is that people who have never had children or seen a real birth will think that's how it works. Ah, no. If your baby has its cord around their neck, popping their bag, starting pit and antibiotics to keep Mom from having an infection will NOT help. Duh.

: rolling my eyes :
 

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I found myself wondering if everything in film is *that* unrealistic: are laywers cringing at the coutroom scenes and EMTs cringing at the ambulance scenes and firefighters cringing at the fire scenes? I know there's always a little bit of drama, but c'mon!

Still, could have been SO MUCH WORSE!
 

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It is so interesting to read all of your comments about "Knocked Up." I stumbled to this thread by accident tonight, and I am so glad I did!
I am a PhD student (and birth doula). I am doing my dissertation on how the media represents childbirth and breastfeeding!! I loved reading your comments! I am so glad that you all have diverse comments about the film. I am eager to see what the public think about this film, and how they are influenced by this film when it comes to their birth choices!
Thanks for confirming that my disseration is important!

Cheers,
Rhon
 

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Saw the movie last night


I definitely caught the co-sleeping scene. Dad was in the King with the 2 kids and mom was asleep on the mattress on the floor. I'd say that that is pretty realistic!

I also heard the non-vax comment. Mom didn't vax because of the fear of mercury.

Did you see the Seventh Generation diapers?

I loved that the mom picked an OB that would do her birth her way, labored in a tub and insisted on a medication free birth because she didn't want the baby to be born all drugged up. Dad did something great during the confrontation with the OB which was ask for a few minutes to talk it over in privacy which is what we all tell our clients to do.
 

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I saw the movie this past weekend and loved the type of humor in it.

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I was also annoyed with the audience's reaction to the fact that they showed baby crowning. Everyone in the room, it seems like, said "Eww" or "gross" or (the lady behind me) "oh, no they didn't." And all of this despite multiple shots of exposed breasts previously in the movie, that no one batted and eye at. Oh, and in the crowning clips, I thought it was kinda creepy and unrealistic that there was NO pubic hair. I'm pretty sure it was a clip of a real birth (or a VERY realistic model!), but I just couldn't get over the fact that there was no hair. Very unreal to me .
I agree with the part about the hair. But the director must have wanted to match the mainstream preconception about how women are supposed to look like.
 

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Maybe that's new... I know that the Nicole Kidman movie, Birth, had a waterbirth in it. Real. I was there with a client when they came to the birth center. It was Suzanne Arms' photographer. I watched the movie, baby comes out with both arms extended...
And Amelie has a (quick!) crowning & birth in the opening credits. My husband reminded me today.
 
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