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Yes, we have begun potty learning. Tracy has asked to use the potty before and when he was at the peak of interest I was bout 8 mopnths pg and we were out of town <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"> So, I put him off. Now he is interested again but I'm having some problems.<br><br>
This is probably the HARDEST thing I've done in 2 years of mommyhood. It's funny because for the most part I've not questioned how to do things until now!<br><br>
OK, now for the help I need.<br><br>
He is in underwear (Shrek...he is so excited about them). He is coming to me AFTER he pees and says...Eeeew... and runs to the potty to be sat on it. But he doesn't go! Well, he has already peed so nothing is left. If I ask him if he needs to go or wants to go he gets mad and yells No. Well, I guess he doesn't get mad but he acts aggrivated. Its like he is telling me...you don't have to ask... but if he pees on himself anyway! Plus, if I sit him on the toilet he'll sit and sit and do nothing. Then once I get him off he pees on the floor!<br><br>
I thought about seeing if he'll go while standing but he doens't get that part.<br><br>
I read on Dr Phil's (gasp) website about potty teaching and it said that after an accident take them back and forth to the potty 9 times in a row so they can start to learn the association with it.<br><br>
He keeps telling me he is ready but I'm starting to wonder. I really want him to learn because diapers for 2 is expensive!<br><br>
Maybe I'll stop for the week and start again next week.<br><br>
BTW...he yelled YUCK! and ran to the potty while I was typing but he was already wet when he got there...
 

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No real help here as I'm putting it off with A until after the baby's born and we move to our new place, but how exciting! The one bit of advice I've gotten over and over again is to just let them run around naked {outside being pref and good timing for you, lol} with the potty nearby so they get the idea. Mind you, this whole potty learning thing has me equally baffled. And I'm developing quite a library of recommended books. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"><br><br>
Good luck, Megan!
 

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Good Grief! Dr. Phil? What does he know about potty learning?! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/duh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="duh"> Sounds more like advice for house training a puppy!<br><br>
If this is really the most difficult challenge you've encountered as a mother, then I would take that as a "sign" that he is not ready yet. It shouldn't be *that* hard for either of you. We waited until after our our kids turned 3 and it was a breeze.<br><br>
If you do decide to keep working on it... then I suggest leaving him naked at home, and establish a "potty routine" where you take him in to the bathroom every 30 minutes to "try." I wouldn't ask him if needs to go, I would just announce that, "<i>Its potty time, come on!"</i> Cheerfully as you can. I also found it helpful to assure him that whatever is going on around him will <i>"wait</i>" until he comes back from the potty.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Good Grief! Dr. Phil? What does he know about potty learning?! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/duh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="duh"> Sounds more like advice for house training a puppy!<br><br>
If this is really the most difficult challenge you've encountered as a mother, then I would take that as a "sign" that he is not ready yet. It shouldn't be *that* hard for either of you. We waited until after our our kids turned 3 and it was a breeze.<br><br>
If you do decide to keep working on it... then I suggest leaving him naked at home, and establish a "potty routine" where you take him in to the bathroom every 30 minutes to "try." I wouldn't ask him if needs to go, I would just announce that, "<i>Its potty time, come on!"</i> Cheerfully as you can. I also found it helpful to assure him that whatever is going on around him will <i>"wait</i>" until he comes back from the potty.</div>
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I know what you mean about Dr Phil..but I was looking EVERYWHERE!! He also said to use a doll to model what he should do. Which I also find odd.<br><br>
But we did the walking to the bathroom 9x. Actually we only did it 6 and we ran and sang "potty time potty time" the whole time and he loved it! He even has come and ask to go. Well, we did but he didn't. Dh took him when he was home and T responded better to him but still didn't go.<br><br>
What I figure is that I'll keep him in undies during the day at home and just offer the potty to him. Once he decides to go YAY! But I figure I can wash them at night. I don't see the difference in undies and cd's... kwim?<br><br>
I'm not going to pressure him which I feel like I am. I know he'll do it when he is ready and I got to thinking about the rushing to find a bathroom where ever we are. AND we are going on a 14 hour car ride in July and a pt-ing boy on a 14 hour car trip isn't going to be fun...
 

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The reason I say naked, is that my boys seemed to feel more inclined to "let go" when they felt cloth against their loins. Being nude (at least on bottom) seemed to halt their instinct to go on the spot.
 

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Both my DS and DD potty learned by going naked - like the pp mentioned just the feel of something on them would make them pee in their clothing. Once they got it down bottomless then we moved on the wearning underware. DD is still at the bottomless stage but is pretty much 100% - and is now occassionaly telling me before she goes if she has something on like her bathing suit or a pull-up - so we are getting there. She has been potty learning (her own idea BTW) for a good 6 months now....
 

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I'm afraid to do the naked thing. I posted about it in the toddler forum but...<br><br>
This weekend he was naked. Well, he was put down for a nao in just a diaper and then he took it off. He pooped in the floor. He carried it around and threw piles all over his room and the living room (no one knew he was awake). It was all over his face, hands, lges,arms, feet and back. He had it on the carpet, wall, toybox, and toys. He even went so far as to go find my shoe and push it in it and make marks on things. 3 hours after I started cleaning it up it is still on the floor! I'm STILL trying to clean it!<br><br>
So, he makes me nervous being naked. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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Moving this to the Toddler Forum... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'm afraid to do the naked thing. I posted about it in the toddler forum but...<br><br>
This weekend he was naked. Well, he was put down for a nao in just a diaper and then he took it off. He pooped in the floor. He carried it around and threw piles all over his room and the living room (no one knew he was awake). It was all over his face, hands, lges,arms, feet and back. He had it on the carpet, wall, toybox, and toys. He even went so far as to go find my shoe and push it in it and make marks on things. 3 hours after I started cleaning it up it is still on the floor! I'm STILL trying to clean it!<br><br>
So, he makes me nervous being naked. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"></div>
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Oh My!<br><br>
Maybe you should put this whole thing off for a bit!
 

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That is why pt-ing was an appealing thing. We can't keep a diaper on him. He freaks out when one gets put on. He just pulls at it and yells OFF. Plus, he can get it off no matter what he is wearing. Even if he has on a crotch snap shirt he can get the silly thing off. He's like Houdini. He can take it off and leave his pants on!<br><br>
I thought that pt-ing would be the easiest way to fix the problem. Challenging! And everyone IRL has no idea how to potty train. It doesn't make sense because they all have pt-ed kids. One used candy and another used stickers or cookies and jsut forms of bribery.<br><br>
I'm planning on doing a sticker chart but now he jsut gets mad cause he wants a sticker.<br><br>
Another friend tells her son "Lets make bubbles!!" Because when he pees it makes bubbles int he toilet. It works well for them (her son is 2m older than T).<br><br>
I'll try the naked thing again tomorrow... thanks!!
 

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I have done this twice now and am about to embark upon i a thierd time ans still don't know what I am doing. but here are some things I have gleaned over the years:<br><br>
keeping them on the potty before they pee:<br><br>
with dd number one we would strip her down and put in a video. we had 5 hours of blues clues on tape whcih got her through potty training with a few runs through it. unfortunately with my second she just thought that taking off all your clothes and siutting on the dchair in the living room would get you a movie.<br><br>
offer them something special for sittin gon the potty for 5-10 minutes. read a book, give them a sticker, an m&m, something small but that they desire. even if they don't go. sitting on the potty and being a little patient is half the battle. just right reward what they can control. once the pee starts flowing her will put it all together pretty quickly.<br><br>
underware and diapers:<br><br>
you could always sa no undies unless he goes in the potty first. and if her misses the rest of the day so be it but he has to go at least once before the undies go on.<br><br>
have you tried putting the diaper on backwards? running duct tape over the tabs?<br><br>
if it is just the undies he wants and is no where near ready perhaps wearing htem over his diaper will satisfy him and help keep the diaper on.<br><br>
Misc. other things:<br>
my second refused training pants and the little potty. she showed absolutly no intrest and no readiness. then one day she found a bag of her sisters panties, spent anhour trying on the six pairs over and over and over and declared herslef a big girl and done with diapers. this was right before she went to bed mind you. but she was done. in the morning she got her self up, onto the big potty and was good after that. so her big hang u ps was here she was trying to a big girl and we put her in baby panties and ona baby potty. She has since shown this is a pattern everywhere in her life. no stupid baby stuff for her thankyouverymuch.<br><br>
naked time, outside, as much as possible. the only way for them to really get it, I am convinced is to feel it comeing out and running all over. gross, super gross to clean up poop anywhere but if you are lucky outside they will hit somewhere appropriate for a hose.
 

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Well, at 5:00 last night we put T on the potty. At 5:30 dh and I were ono our second "switch". I walk in and can here T was sitting smiling at me. And then he looks down... PEE!!! We had such a celebration!!!<br><br>
Then we had to leave and we were gone till midnight. But, we will work at it again today!<br><br>
His reward is suckers since that is all we have. But we are going to vanilla wafers. We are also doing stickers.<br><br>
lilyka-- Thanks for your story! I'm glad even those who have done it before stilla re stumped!
 

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I waited till ds was 3 yr 1 month and then told him that he was going to wear big boy undies now, he didn't like it at first, and he would ask me for a diaper, I told him that all of his diapers were broken (I know bad mama, telling him a lie) but it worked, he has never had a pee accident and only had 3-4 poop accidents, it took less than 3 weeks to completly train him (including night training).<br><br>
I tried the potty training thing when he was 2.5 yrs old and he was just not ready so I didn't push it. I didn't want either one of us have a bad pt experience.<br><br>
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