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I just heard on an NBC news report that citizens in Fallujah are going to be allowed to return to their neighborhoods. There are a few caveats. First, they are going to be fingerprinted and will have retinal scans. Second, they will be living under laws which only allow them to be in the immediate areas of their homes and relief shelters. Our marines will be authorized to use deadly force-- that is, SHOOT TO KILL-- any civilians who break those rules. Shoot to kill. Civilians. For wandering too far from their homes.<br><br>
Nothing like setting up a free society. Well done, Bushco.
 

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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">What Is Napalm?<br><br>
Napalm is a mixture of benzene (21%), gasoline (33%), and polystyrene (46%). Benzene is a normal component of gasoline (about 2%). The gasoline used in napalm is the same leaded or unleaded gas that you put in your car.<br><br>
Gasoline is a mixture of hydrocarbons, which burn in an engine. It is a clear liquid, made from crude oil that burns and explodes easily. It naturally contains some benzene (which makes gas smell the way it does). Gasoline is lighter than, and floats on, water, but it will not mix with water. It dissolves grease and oil but will not dissolve polystyrene by itself, more benzene must be added to it. If gasoline is inhaled or swallowed, it can be dangerous or fatal. Breathing it results in an intense burning sensation in the throat and lungs, resulting in bronchitis and, eventually, pneumonia and possibly death. Swallowing gasoline results in inebriation (drunkenness), vomiting, dizziness, fever, drowsiness, confusion, and cyanosis (blue color).</td>
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Check this out,,,,<a href="http://www.efdsw.navfac.navy.mil/Environmental/NapalmPhotos_CAN.htm" target="_blank">http://www.efdsw.navfac.navy.mil/Env...Photos_CAN.htm</a><br><br>
They WERE better off with Saddam.......<br><br><br>
Never had to come to this......... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry">
 

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Isn't it "Let Freedom Reign"????<br><br>
It should never have come to this....<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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Oh no, Briss has been taken over by the pod people!<br><br>
Irony in that thar thread title, Daddy-o. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 

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Irony. nausea. Disgustingness. I meant that it's about as anti-freedom as you can get.
 

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Isn't it clear that failure = success with this administration yet? Hard to imagine any good coming from such an egoistic, powertripped-up, evil-believing group of individuals. Who, by the way blame their faults on (many people's form of) God. How arrogant can one get anyway...<br><br>
That mindset is only out to please themselves, that's already in ink... after all, " 'MerCans have spoken" is the motto, when the difference is VERY slim, which should clue us ALL in for what's ahead here & around the globe. Bush wants to be a dictator & all of his little followers are needy types who want someone to follow.<br><br>
Gawd it's rough to be one of the more evolved & sit by, forceless, as the hateful destroy any good left on this amazing planet. I still believe that good will prevail, even if our generation isn't here to witness & enjoy it all with each other.<br><br>
edited b'c i made a large error of words!
 

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No, I think it's Freedom is on the March!!! And, ironically, it's marching attired in the oh-so-fashionable jackboots and brown shirt.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Um, I think it was his idea of a joke. Any threads dealing with Iraqi hardships are left for dead by some members here.</div>
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There he goes being all witty again....(she said, crawling off to hide under a rock.)
 

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I just read this out to my husband, and his reply - that's just what it's like living under foreign occupation.<br><br>
Then he added - ask the French what it was like living under German occupation... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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...Yes Mommiska...and that is why on the day after the election when I got suspended, I told people that what's next is Resistance. Your dh is absolutely correct, that the US is living under occupation that began in 2000.<br><br>
Anyone remember the photo of the girl running down the road with the clothing burning off her body? That was napalm! Her name was Kim Phuc.<br><br>
Here's the picture:<br><a href="http://www.bruderhof.com/articles/images/kimphuc.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.bruderhof.com/articles/images/kimphuc.jpg</a><br><br>
Here's her foundation for children of war:<br><a href="http://www.kimfoundation.com/en/index.htm" target="_blank">http://www.kimfoundation.com/en/index.htm</a><br><br>
Napalm is the tool of evil. It was evil in 'Nam and it is evil now. I cannot think of any other words to describe it.<br><br>
Joyce in the mts.
 

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bump.
 

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Part of the fun of living in Falluja! We have been using it for a while.<br><br><a href="http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Middle_East/napalm.htm" target="_blank">http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Middle_East/napalm.htm</a><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">American pilots dropped the controversial incendiary agent napalm on Iraqi<br><br>
troops during the advance on Baghdad. The attacks caused massive fireballs<br><br>
that obliterated several Iraqi positions.<br><br><br><br>
The Pentagon denied using napalm at the time, but Marine pilots and their<br><br>
commanders have confirmed that they used an upgraded version of the weapon<br><br>
against dug-in positions. They said napalm, which has a distinctive smell,<br><br>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Claims of napalm have been heightened by eyewitness accounts of the Fallujah attack. Abu Sabah told the news agency IPS: "They used these weird bombs that put up smoke like a mushroom cloud. Then small pieces fall from the air with long tails of smoke behind them."</td>
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Yes, they made a huge mistake.<br><br>
Now the republicans have a chance to do away with this barbaric practice:<br><br><a href="http://slate.msn.com/id/1049/" target="_blank">http://slate.msn.com/id/1049/</a><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">On April 29, an international treaty banning chemical weapons will take effect. So far, the United States isn't committed to taking part. Thanks mainly to the efforts of Sen. Jesse Helms, R-N.C., chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, the Senate has delayed ratification of the treaty and may ultimately vote it down. Helms claims that despite the ban's best intentions, it will actually encourage chemical-weapons attacks. Proponents of the treaty, including the Clinton administration, worry that Helms' delaying tactics will shut the United States out of critical decisions about chemical arms control. What's really at stake?<br><br></td>
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They won't sign it because they want to use it in Iraq. Plain and simple.
 

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Yep. As a Dem, I have no problem at all criticizing the way Democrats handled things in Vietnam. We were involved in some absolutely horrific stuff, and had I been around then, I would have protested wildly against my government doing something that awful. Belonging to one political party or another should not be confused with following that party blindly no matter how atrocious its actions. THAT is what bothers me here quite a lot.
 

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I am a Democrat and completely agree with trashing Democrats over Vietnam.<br><br>
Fog of War is an excellent film that deals with some of that. It is a documentary about Robert S McNamara and is actually a long interview with him. I recommend it.
 
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