Live in LA and dislike children being tortured for profit?

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pumpkinsmama

Discussion Starter · Apr 15, 2006

http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/a...ions/endtimes/

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takes place on Saturday, April 22nd from 6:00pm - 9:00pm. The Paul Kopeikin Gallery is located at 6150 Wilshire Boulevard (just west of Fairfax), Los Angeles, CA 90048. For more information please call 323-937-0765 or visit www.paulkopeikingallery.com.

You have to click the link. I cannot describe it in words. Some may think that torture is a little extreme of a word choice, you may be right but it was all I could come up with.

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Christine&men

· #2 · Apr 15, 2006

I would not let anybody take pictures like that !!!

Poor kids.

Mommy Piadosa

· #3 · Apr 15, 2006

You know I try to get crying pics of my kiddos- I like the reality and rawness of it. Until I got to the last sentence I was OK with it.

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At that age, one needs to merely give them a lollipop and then take it away, et voila - pain and agony

That does seem pretty mean.

mermommy

· #4 · Apr 15, 2006

"Greenberg states, "I manipulate my subjects to evoke an emotion to illustrate my personal beliefs."

"I had to learn the hard way that they had to be no older than three because beyond that they just don't cry so easily," Greenberg explains. "At that age, one needs to merely give them a lollipop and then take it away, et voila - pain and agony."
The shoot took place over the past year in Greenberg's Los Angeles studio, during five separate shoots. "

Do you MAKE your children cry to get those pictures? DO you extend their pain for " just the right shot?" DO you make a child stand there and cry - waiting to be comforted to snap several pictures? Please please let the answers be no...

Pretty mean just doesn't begin to cover this. The children in these shots are being driven to heavy sobbing for some woman's " art" . It's complete BS.

You look at this... just look and tell me that this child DESERVES to stand alone in a studio in front of a drop with lights glaring at them and have NOBODY come to help him/her until the shot is right... http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/a...s.htm?index=20

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DreamsInDigital

· #5 · Apr 15, 2006

That is horrible.

Mommy Piadosa

· #6 · Apr 15, 2006

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Originally Posted by mermommy
Do you MAKE your children cry to get those pictures? DO you extend their pain for " just the right shot?" DO you make a child stand there and cry - waiting to be comforted to snap several pictures? Please please let the answers be no...

Dh takes pictures of their faces while I'm already comforting them- or I've gotten a couple on the floor tantrums when they didn't want comfort- or car seat crying when I couldn't take them out.
Dana

mermommy

· #7 · Apr 15, 2006

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Originally Posted by Madre Piadosa
Dh takes pictures of their faces while I'm already comforting them- or I've gotten a couple on the floor tantrums when they didn't want comfort- or car seat crying when I couldn't take them out.
Dana

That makes all the difference in the world. This woman couldn't bother with naturally occuring pain - she consciously and intentionally causes children mental anguish so she can take and sell their picture. I would suppose that she wouldn't have found so many crying children topless outside of her studio anyway...

FreeRangeMama

· #8 · Apr 15, 2006

What kind of parents sign their kids up for this anyway? I mean, the artist taking the shots is bad enough, but to sign your own precious child up for this kind of thing is inconceivable to me.

sunnybear

· #9 · Apr 15, 2006

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Originally Posted by mermommy
"Greenberg states, "I manipulate my subjects to evoke an emotion to illustrate my personal beliefs."

I'm afraid to ask what her personal beliefs are.

IamCoupongirl

· #10 · Apr 15, 2006

Those pictures broke my heart.

rachelmarie

· #11 · Apr 15, 2006

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Originally Posted by IamCoupongirl
Those pictures broke my heart.

Me, too.

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pumpkinsmama

Discussion Starter · #12 · Apr 15, 2006

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http://www.mothering.com/discussions...=1#post4945446

The News and Current Events thread that sparked this one off.

So, who lives in LA and wants to organize a protest???

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Emmama

· #13 · Apr 15, 2006

What can people who don't live in LA do?? This is beyond sick. Nobody in their right mind would torture children, take their picture of it, and call it art.....selling for 4,500.00 a pic.

The woman needs serious help.....so do the parents.

mama-meg

· #14 · Apr 15, 2006

I don't understand why anyone would want evidence of some child's extreme anguish. How horrible would it be to be forced into that state of mind and then, vunerable and alone have someone take your picture. That site is heartbreaking.

pumpkinsmama

Discussion Starter · #15 · Apr 15, 2006

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Originally Posted by Emmama
What can people who don't live in LA do?? This is beyond sick. Nobody in their right mind would torture children, take their picture of it, and call it art.....selling for 4,500.00 a pic.

The woman needs serious help.....so do the parents.

If you follow the link to the News and Current Events thread, some of those mamas are calling and emailing to protest.

Kia74

· #16 · Apr 15, 2006

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Originally Posted by FreeRangeMama
What kind of parents sign their kids up for this anyway? I mean, the artist taking the shots is bad enough, but to sign your own precious child up for this kind of thing is inconceivable to me.

I agree 100%

Where are all the people who were outraged by Sally Mann's work? BTW Does anyone know what she is doing currently? Now that I have kids her work is even more compelling to me

Take Care

rozzie'sma

· #17 · Apr 15, 2006

I don't understand what kind of parent let's their child be treated like that. It makes my stomach turn. When Rozzie gets hurt all I want to do is hold her, rock her, nurse her. Wow.

moonrosebud

· #18 · Apr 15, 2006

Another quote from Greenburg's website

"I love the raw emotion of children, because it comes close to the anger and helplessness I feel about our current political and social situation."

Seems to me she wouldn't have to go very far out in the world to take pictures of children in real distress - but to manipulate children INTO distress to recreate her own feelings is unforgivable!

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hypnohobbit

· #19 · Apr 15, 2006

We see enough torture and anguish in the world today.

Let's see some unstoppable smiles or something, let's see unending joy, unhelpable perma-grins.

This is sad, she could've accomplished the same with paintings, too bad that didn't strike her.

http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/a...ks.htm?index=1

I have never seen my son this sad, poor thing is looking for comfort in himself.

These children look broken and vulnerable standing helplessy forced into these bright lights. Shame someone would want to exploit children.

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InfoisPower

· #20 · Apr 16, 2006

This so called artist in my opinion has her head up her arse, to not be able to feel these children's very real pain and anguish. Get her a protocologist's appointment, stat!

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