Locker room

The locker room argument has never really held water for me. I mean, kids get teased for so many other things that something inside their pants that people rarely see isn't even on my radar. My own kids have absolutely no athletic ability. I figure if my kids are being teased in the locker room, it'll be for something like dropping the ball, passing to the wrong team, etc.
And do kids really even get nude in the locker room anymore? My friends w/ older teens all say no.

Ahh, the proverbial Locker Room. When kids are growing up, they're shy about their whole bodies in general. I DREADED getting undressed in the locker rooms and never took my underwear off -- not because I was uncut, but because I didn't want to get THAT personal with my classmates. Plus, when boys get changed, they do their best to look away from other boys. The stigma of being called "gay" when you were straight was the worst thing that a boy could be teased about in school. You wouldn't dare get caught staring at another boy's penis or making fun it. That would earn you a quick ticket into being labelled gay.

You are correct. When the tides turn and the majority of the population is uncut, you can start using the locker room excuse *against* pro-circers.

I do find it funny that those who circumcise don't think of the 'locker room' in the situation that you describe, where those circumcised are clearly in the minority. Suddenly, the 'locker room' isn't a problem.

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I know, I was referring to my experience in this part of Canada, not Canada in general. In this area of Ontario(Niagara) when I was born, 1970's, circumcision was pretty much just done. There may have been the odd boy spared but, unfortunately most were cut. My MIL doesn't even remember being asked(DH and BIL are cut).

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This is exactly what I was referring to. Why is it so very important when used to condone circ, but when used to condone leaving a baby intact, all of a sudden it isn't as critical.

Take care,

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The same reason that 'look like daddy' isn't considered a factor when they started to circumcise.

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Because it's one of those excuses that defy logic. I think it was an empty excuse contrived by men to convince women that circ is the way to go. Afterall, how many women have firsthand experience of what it's like in a men's locker room? Thus any arguments women have against it become moot.

My wife's friend/coworker has a 13yo son who has actually gotten teased about it recently. I thought it a bit strange that boys would bring up the topic of other penises without someone playing the "gay" card. Well, apparently, the 13yo wants to get circ'd now and I believe his mother supports his decision.

First of all, I think he's too young to make a decision like that simply based on being teased. Second of all, even if he does get it done, it won't stop the teasing. They'll tease him for getting it done, during the healing process when it hurts, and when they get tired of teasing him about his penis, they'll move on to some other body part. If they start teasing him about his ears, will he look into surgery for that as well?

Adolescence is an awkward time in everyone's life where we just don't feel comfortable in our own skin. I don't believe hacking pieces off or doing any type of body modification to quell teasing will ultimately work. It would probably make things worse considering that the teasers have "won" by making you adjust yourself to their likings. It will make you more vulnerable and open up the flood gates for more teasers to unleash their wrath.

IMHO, the best way for him to end the teasing situation is to give them the one finger salute and make the comment that their moms actually prefer him intact.

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Totally why would a mom allow her son to make a "grown up decision' like that when he just hit teen years ?

What will be next when he ends up having things teased like KGB the stuff he won't be able to get changed .

Instead of surgery empower his image because if he's running for surgery then allowing surgery will make his self image feel as if he was born with a "wrong part ' and who knows maybe he will start wondering what other part he was born wrong with ?

Plus, the mom allowing that to happen shows she doesn't know much about foreskin either .

After all he has to do is say Let me get this "straight your laughing at me because you had part of your d*ck cut off and I didn't ?

The teasers would be the ones getting laughed at then the teasing would end

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Seriously? Wow - I really must have had a knack. Until I had ds1, and left him intact, I'd never seen an intact penis. (My brother is intact - mom was the only one on the ward who didn't circ - but, I never saw him naked, even though we were very casual about nudity growing up, because he's over 5 years older than I am.) I have a few female friends who have had many more partners than I am, and it's commonly agreed that guys our age were almost all circ'd. Very few of the women I'm talking about have ever seen a guy our age with an intact penis. I wonder what the rate in Vancouver in the late 60s was...