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novice to veteran, someone out there must have some suggestions on some details of our situation:<br><br>
my guy is 9 months now.<br><br>
started EC with 3mos., did well with the big potty, the bucket and the sink, but then came the big move, first hotel, then with relatives, THEN into our newest house. i feel like he remembers NONE (probably doesn't really, since it was in a TOTALLY different house (and state for that matter!) so he only sometimes goes on the BBLP, but is usually content to go in the diaper or on the floor, crawl right through it and go on playing. he has held it (apparently) when i took him to the potty (big one AND little one) b/c he peed on the floor immediately after several times now. so there is communication, just not accurate.<br><br>
i feel like two very out of sync dance partners who really need some dance lessons.<br><br>
how do i sort of start over from here and EC part time to get our confidence and "practice" time up? have been doing nakey time, but missing many because of trying to tend older child, do housework, etc. don't want to be overzealous with constant "do you have to go?" and putting him to the potty. he has seemed almost put off by that before, but then if i just try to let things go, they DO- all over the floor!!!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
how do i get him to start going in the big potty instead of the BBLP since i can't take that traveling - too cold to use in back of station wagon and too ridiculous to take to mall/grocery/children's museum?<br>
how do i get him to "mean" business on the big potty and not play with the lid/seat/his toes/his genitals? if he didn't pee on the floor those times, i would take the play to mean he didn't have to go, but the playing is just being coy, (power struggle at this age??) i think.<br><br>
how do you mamas handle traveling EC now that it's cold? in warm weather we had a bucket in the car and he could go there. too cold now. also means diaper with cover b/c pants need to go on for warmth, AND i think he is too used to going in the diaper so i am discouraged.<br><br>
also, i have laurie boucke's book, but was thinking of getting ingrid bauer's. laurie's seem to give me the technical, "how-to" for holding and stuff. but i am lost on the subtler, intuitive, silent communication, especially now that he is often past "in arms phase" and wants to play with his brother. i have heard that ingrid's book (clovergirl, was that you?) is more about the intuitive. any opinions on the book?<br><br>
any suggestions on any single aspect of this whole ordeal are appreciated!!!<br>
have i overlooked any of the vary basic things? do i need reminders? bring them on!
 

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Whew....sounds like you guys have been through some major changes lately. That can be rough. The only thing that really struck me as I was reading your post was that maybe you could try taking DS to the potty in many different places including public potties. Not sure how you feel about that...some people are public potty phobic! I started ECing my DS at 4mos and he's now 15 mos. I take him potty everywhere.....bblp, big potty, sink, tub, outside, van, stores, etc....I think he's now used to going in most situations. For traveling, we use the bblp in the van but I do prefer to use store potties rather than mess around with the bblp in the van. It just gets too crowded. My DD is 5 so I am not trying to keep track of younger babes while I potty DS in public places.<br><br>
DS doesn't go coverless since we moved to our new house. I just can't bring myself to clean poop out of my new carpet <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/blush.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="blush"><br><br>
Hope things get back into a groove for you guys.
 

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quick response for now<br><br>
We travelled with the bblp forever. It lived in our only bathroom as a second toilet for whoever needed to use it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
When things got cold we would prewarm the bblp by turning it upside down with hot water in it - didn't take long and our bathroom was coooooooold.<br><br>
I would skip the big potty until he was older<br><br>
I think the play is just that, play<br><br>
If he can stand you could try a play cup (the kind that usually come in stacking sets) devoted to peeing. We had one of those starting at 20 months and it came in handy for a long long time. Even carried it in my bag when travelling through airports. Yup. Gotta go. Here.<br><br>
There may be times that other things become more important to him, just don't loose sight that it all adds up in the end!
 

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I'm definitely in the novice category - just started about two weeks ago with my ds, who will be a year old next week. He was initially very reluctant to go in the toilet - he either seemed afraid that I would drop him, or he was fascinated by everything about, around, in, and on the toilet and just wanted to grab it all. The first time he peed in the toilet, he looked concerned, probably because he wasn't used to seeing/hearing his own pee or to peeing without a diaper on. He has gotten increasingly comfortable, though, and will now pee in any toilet (as long as I am holding him - no dice for dh or our nanny).<br><br>
What helped us get started: (1) take him only during those times I know he has to go - first thing in the morning, after naps, and when he obviously needs to poop; (2) give him something to hold (that I don't mind being dropped in the toilet) and/or something to look at (a night light over the toilet works for us at night); (3) before removing diaper/training pants, make eye contact with him and ask (in an excited voice) if he wants to go potty in the toilet; (4) remove pants, hold him securely under the thighs with his head against my chest, lower him over the toilet, tell him its o.k. to go potty now, and make the ssss cueing sound; (5) if he seems uncomfortable, I can usually make eye contact with him, smile, and talk to him to reassure him that it's o.k. to go potty (even though I am behind him, my head is above his, and he will look up at me when I talk to him); (6) when he is done, I tell him what a good job he did going potty in the toilet, and we clap together.<br><br>
Now that he is more comfortable, I am taking him to the bathroom more and more often - sometimes because I have a feeling he needs to go or I think he might be trying to signal, and other times just because he hasn't been in a while. He almost always pees now when I give him the ssss cue, and it seems like he intentionally holds it until I get him undressed and over the toilet.<br><br>
Hope you are able to get things back on track. But don't put too much pressure on yourself or your child - I'm finding it a lot of fun to celebrate with ds each time he goes in the toilet, recognizing that those occasions are still the exception rather than the rule, that they probably will be for a while, and that that's just fine.<br><br>
Good luck!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">If he can stand you could try a play cup (the kind that usually come in stacking sets) devoted to peeing. We had one of those starting at 20 months and it came in handy for a long long time. Even carried it in my bag when travelling through airports. Yup. Gotta go. Here.<br><br>
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ummm...do you mean cups to pee in or play with? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> don't laugh AT me, just WITH me - i genuinely don't know which....okay, laugh AT me, then tell me which you mean... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/help.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="help"> it's the whole "if he can stand" thing that has me thinking you mean to pee IN.<br><br>
and "other things become more important" like other developmental things, instead of pottying?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">ummm...do you mean cups to pee in or play with? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> don't laugh AT me, just WITH me - i genuinely don't know which....okay, laugh AT me, then tell me which you mean... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/help.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="help"> it's the whole "if he can stand" thing that has me thinking you mean to pee IN.</div>
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Yes I mean to pee in. I can't tell you how invaluable it was to have one around. It is easy to travel with and he knew just what it was for. Since my DS was older when he used one regularly, you would just have to experiment with when it seems appropriate for your DS<br><br>
"other things become more important"<br><br>
Well, I mean that other things become more important to him. Even at 4 years old my son may keep his attention on something he would rather pay attention to and delay relieving himself as long as possible. Now since he knows how to hold it that doesn't mean any messes to clean up as long as he doesn't dribble on the floor <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br>
but for a babe it could be something like "hey I'd rather do this and not take any time away from this to pee"<br>
Anyway, I'm not sure how this thoguht helps but I thought I would put it out there.
 
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