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Hmmm, I just invited a friend to meet us at the Kids' Science Ctr tomorrow and her immed. response was, "okay, I'll bring a bottle of Lysol." <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Confused">: Ick. I've never had any of that type of cleaner in our house. She wants to spray down all of the toys & games before the children touch them. Wouldn't Lysol be bad for them? Of course, it kills the germs, but it can't be a healthy thing for them to sniff, inhale, gum, etc.<br><br>
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Any thoughts on this?<br>
Her kids are always sick so I guess I understand her worries. But, I'm a slob and my kids are never sick, or well maybe once/year.<br><br>
So, germs or cleaning spray? Which is the greater evil in YHO?
 

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I think Lysol is much scarier than most germs! I'm biased though - I worked as a dental assistant in an office that used lysol to disinfect all of the work surfaces. I spent a good portion of each day spraying a thick coating of lysol on counters, lights, chairs, etc, enough to wet the surface completely. That was years ago, but to this day I can pick up the scent of minute amounts of the stuff in the air and it gives me an instant headache.<br><br>
For clinical settings that require sterile fields, I'm all for killing germs. But for everyday life, I really believe that healthy immune systems are so much better than germ-killing chemical sprays. And the less lysol you huff down, the healthier your immune system, IMHO.
 

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BLECK!<br><br>
Maybe just bring moist toweletts, like those kind with alchohol. Not great but better than breathing Lysol in my opinion. Lysol makes me sick too.
 

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The active ingredient in Lysol is a registered pesticide. All disinfectants are technically pesticides.<br><br>
I make an antiseptic soap spray using liquid soap, purified water and tea tree oil. Tea tree oil is on its way to being a registered disinfectant.
 

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I just read yesterday that the Lysol spray has a carcinogen in it, and immediately threw away my one can that I had sitting around. Will never buy that stuff again. Never used it much anyway. I believe in letting kids build their immunities to a point.<br><br>
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ok so i am as big of a germaphobe as the next germaphobe, but i never heard of trying to sanitize the toys at a play center! i have done stuff like brought antiseptic wipes to wipe ds's HANDS after or during play, but even with my totally germaphobe attitude, i have mostly just bit the bullet and let him touch stuff in public and play with other kids without decontaminating everything, LOL . i have only used antibiotic wipes on occations where i felt we were in particualry yucky places, like if he touched a public toilet or something. or on our last road trip when handwashing was hard to come by.<br><br>
honestly, theres got to be a way to minimise the hands going into the mouth and toys going into the mouth for that play time. thats what i do, and i jsut tell myself that ultamately it is OK for ds to get some colds, even good. bring your own toys for them to suck on (if in a "gumming" phase) , so they just touch the other stuff?<br><br>
the BEST thing to do is simply wash hands frequently, with any kind of regluar soap. tell your friend that this is reccomended by most health departments even. you rub for 30 seconds. sing the ABC song as you rub , when the song is over, youre done!<br><br>
i would way rather babies got colds than touched & ate Lysol, but thats just my opinion.<br><br>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"> Thanks for the feedback! Those are my thoughts, too.<br>
Very interesting re: pesticide and carcinogen factors.<br><br>
Well, I'm off to the science ctr. I'll have some ideas to share<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<a href="http://www.checnet.org/healthehouse/education/articles-detail.asp?Main_ID=628" target="_blank">http://www.checnet.org/healthehouse/...sp?Main_ID=628</a><br><br>
The link above is from checnet......regarding ingredients in childrens personal care products. Thought Id list it here bc it talked about antibacterial soaps, amoung other things.....
 

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Yep. I agree. I let dd pretty much get exposed to stuff from the time she could crawl around and touch the rubberized play equipment at our local mall's indoor playground, and the library. She had a lot of colds in her first year of life, but has rarely had one since even though she was not breastfed after 6 mos. (I got tired of exclusive pumping).<br><br>
I kept the Lysol around from when I fostered dogs and would sometimes have an extremely nasty, gross mess to clean up. I will use the antibacterial wipes when we travel, like in the airplane bathrooms I feel a wipe does better than washing in a filthy sink. And esp. in India with typhoid and polio alive and well. But at a science center? She might as well put her kids in gloves and surgical masks.<br><br>
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i felt compelled to tell you all that i aint no saint: MIL bought us household products a couple years ago, and i do resultingly own a can of spray lysol. also i used to use lysol or pine sol to wash my bathroom floor(once upon a time)<br><br>
i have used the spray lysol i have like twice, but the last time was just a week ago! we had a clogged kitchen drain and after my frined got through with it, the entire cabnet was coated in black scary goo. germaphobia kicked in bigtime,lol! i just had to confess. but i really dont like it, the cabinet still stinks like lysol and therefor e like a gas station bathroom. yuk<br><br>
and thats AFTER i rinsed it several times so there was less chance the toxic chemicals would get us! i wouldnt et ds into the kitchen for a day and a half after i used the lysol.
 

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What about alcohol?<br>
For periodically wiping down things like the toilet handle, faucet handles, etc.... is rubbing alcohol safe?<br>
I know that vinegar would work, but the smell is just so <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/crap.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="crap"><br><br>
peace,<br>
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bumping......
 

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I wouldnt use alcohol, just for the fact that I dont want it on hand for dd to possibly get in to , and I hate the smell of it. Its very toxic!<br><br>
For cleaning bathrooms, I use a natural disinfectant recipe for CHCP:<br><br>
fill 16oz spray bottle almost full with distilled or purified water. Then add 3 T of liquid soap. 20-30 drops of tea tree oil for anitseptic power. Shake to mix. I use Dr Bronners eucalyptus liquid soap for this.<br><br>
You can use this to spray potty chair, toilets and overflows.....even little hands!
 

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I'll bet that smells nice!<br>
Does the soap leave any residue? I worry that anything soapy will leave some behind-- and make future dirt stick that much faster:LOL<br>
thanks,<br>
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Ive never noticed a residue.... Maybe using the Dr Bronners makes a difference as it doesnt suds as much as regular dish detergent. It smells really clean!
 

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Her kids are always sick so I guess I understand her worries. But, I'm a slob and my kids are never sick, or well maybe once/year.[/B]</td>
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Uh, yeah. If she is so germaphobic that she is scrubbing down publich places, her kids probably don't get much of a chance to build their immune system.<br><br>
Lysol is by far the greater evil IMO. I'm all for sterilization in cases of true biohazards -- i.e. vomit, feces, blood -- but would prefer to use chlorine bleach or alcohol (preferably food grade and not isopropyl). For the rest of it, soap and water on the hands should be enough to minimize it, and a decent immune system can usually handle the rest.<br><br>
As a side note, my brother-in-law the biology professor says that chlorine bleach and ammonia are simple enough chemically to break down in the environment, but more complex chemicals (like Ajax powder) don't.
 
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