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I was thinking we should have a place where we could support and talk to eachother. Obviously having a baby w/ reflux is so hard and maybe we could help eachother through it. And keep eachother up-to-date on how our babes are doing.

Natalee started Prevacid on Fri. She is still nursing pretty well (still won't nurse to sleep
) but is clearly still in pain. Wakes up constantly through the night. I am really feeling like I could lose it. I sometimes accidently yell at her and I hate myself for it. I know she can't help it but I just so frustrsted and nobody(like family) understands. They are like she'll be fine and stuff like that. They act like it's no big deal, but it's a big deal to me!! I try SOOO hard to keep her happy all the time. We are going to Sea World tomarrow so hopefully she will have fun there.

Anyway, thanks for letting me vent.
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MY dd is 3 and a half months old and on zantac. I feel blessed that she doesn't have reflux as bad as some other people I've met online. I think she's already outgrowing it. We didn't have her sleeping propped up in the beginning because her nights were fine, no crying or other episodes, but daytime was bad even though she always slept upright for daytime naps. But, once we started having her sleep in her infant chair at night, she was like a whole new baby. The past week she has come to bed with me in the morning and slept flat for an hour or so, and she's done OK. I haven't adjusted her meds to see if she tolerates it, though. I am too worried about a painful episode.
good idea on a thread. it is a long tough road, that's for sure.

tiffany, is she still on zantac while on the prevacid?? it takes a while for a ppi to kick in - so if she isn't on zantac right now it is as if she is unmedicated. please treat with zantac and/or mylanta for her comfort - my doc told me to do it for around 2 wks, or untuil we saw his pain reduced.
it is so hard when they are obviously in pain or upset. I know the temptation is to blame ourselves and to try so hard to "keep them happy all the time". I am working on understanding that my dd will not EVER "be happy all the time" because that is not what it is to be human. And I want her to experience the full range of what it is to be human.

DD's reflux is mostly controlled by Zantac (which I *hate* giving her because she despises it - you should see the faces and hear the gagging sounds). She still has a lot of spitting up but it is MUCH better than without. We had 911 here last week when she almost asphyxiated one night after accidentally rolling onto her back and spitting up and choking on it. That was AWFUL.

Sometimes I get kind of down about it, like, why couldn't this just have happened to someone else instead of to us, but then I remind myself that out of all the things that could have befallen her, a little reflux is probably the least of it all. Then I am thankful again that this is all it is.
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Well, guess what- everything has changed now. I didn't say in my pp but the Prevacid was prescribed in a granules in liquid form. Well the granules dissolved after 1 day and I understand that means they are no longer effective. I called the drug company that makes Prevacid and they said that if the liquid was not sodium bicarbonit(sp?) that it would not be as effective.

So I called the pharm and they said that in WAS NOT sodiem bicar.. whatever and so basically I have been giving dd nothing but some cherry flavor liquid. So they told me to call Dr. back and see about what else they could do. I called her Ped. asked him about maybe solutabs but he was not helpful AT ALL. He was like is she doing better on Prevacid and I'm like I don't know b/c it's been 3 days and it takes time to work. He acted like it should already be working??? UGGGGHHHHHHHH. So he said "well lets just up her Zantac and stop the Prevacid." I told him I wanted her on Prevacid and blah, blah .... Well he said he is not comfortable giving her all these drugs so he is going to have the girl in the office call me back w/ a GI spec. # THANK GOD. I am so mad I am not ever going to bring her to the Ped. again. I am going to find a new one. I seriously do not think he knows anything!

To top it off-my mama is making sooo mad. She just told me she wasn't going to say anything but she feels dd is not gaining well and she is too hungry.

Anyway-dd is crying,I'll post back
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PLEASE HELP ME-I am in tears, my family is agruing w/ me that the problem is ME not giving her enough solid food!!!!!! ????? She eats a few tablespoons in the morning and a few tablespoons at night. They think she is starving. The GI spec. is a 2 hr drive, I am going to drive to the pharm and see if they will fix this. If ayone nas anyinfo on infant refluxa nd solid food then HELP ME!
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Tiffany - have you tried another pharmacy to see what they can do with the perscription? The pharmacy should be able to compound it so it doesn't have any granuales. Holden's Prevacid is a liquid, no granuales at all. Can the doctor change the script to say it needs to be compounded?

How is she nursing? Solid food won't make her Reflux go away. Try to PM USAmma, she knows a lot about Reflux and was very helpful to me last week. She might have some more info for you.

Hang in there, my GI doc told me the meds should work after a couple of days. I've noticed a difference in Holden already. It doesn't make any sense to take her off of it now when she hasn't really been getting any!

Do you have an HMO or a PPO? If you have a PPO, don't want for the GI docs phone number. See who your insurance covers and call to see when you can get in.

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this is stressful. I know it's hard, but please try not to let your family stress you out.

Sorry this is so short, my wee one is crying. I'll check back later.
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When I called the Dr. about changing the script he wouldn't, so I just went up to the pharm. myself and they are going to re-compound it but I can't get it till Fri b/c the compounder is on vacation but at least it's getting fixed. In the mean time. They said to keep giving her the Prevacid they made first even though it is not as effective. They said it will be somewhat effective for a few more days?? So I'm going to do that and Zantac for now-I guess.

So I am only going to drive to GI spec if after dd starts on the new Prevacid and she is not better in a few weeks. I have a PPO, maybe there is a GI closer, I just have to call around(I thought some spec. you had to have a referal)

She is nursing better, I try to offer to nurse her every hr and sometimes she will nurse for 2 or 3 min.(which is great compared to before)

Thanks for all the support.
Glad they're fixing it for you but sorry you have to wait until Friday.

I guess it all depends on your insurance. I used the website they have to see who was covered and called to double check. With our PPO you don't need a referal, they just need to be on the plan to be covered.

Shoot, have to run again.
I empathize with all of you. My 8 year old DD finally "outgrew" her reflux. She was diagnosed at 2 1/2 weeks. We had our last GI appt at Children's Hosp when she was 7. Back then I was using pepcid capsules dumped into bicarb which only had a shelf life of 8 days,zantac, mylanta and mylicon. You may have to find a pharmacy that specializes in compounding or your local Children's Hosp. pharmacy.

We tried eveything. She was always underweight so I gave her liquid supplements, never chocolate flavor as you know which is the worst for reflux babies. DD self soothed with her preference for frozen foods. She loved to eat frozen waffles and chew on ice. She's healthy and happy so take heart, it gets better. I went through this as a single parent.

There is a parent's support group for children of reflux; here's the link;
http://www.reflux.org/
i can't believe the trouble you have had with the prevacid script! that is the problem - the www.marci-kids.com site talks about it - pharmacists mix the meds and they loose effectiveness. they need to be in a 8.5% sodium bicarb mixture, preferrably 2mg/ml concentration.

I still have the prev. solutabs that i could fill if you are desperate....but if you have a ppo, you shouldn't need a referral, right? i would start calling gi's now to get an appt, it can take a bit. good luck!

and please, continue with the zantac/mylanta as needed.

sorry about your family freaking out. if it makes you feel better, ds was on a 3 mo plus nursing strike, and the last 2 mo didn't gain at all (he would only nurse when asleep).
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Originally Posted by momtoNatalee
When I called the Dr. about changing the script he wouldn't, so I just went up to the pharm. myself and they are going to re-compound it but I can't get it till Fri b/c the compounder is on vacation but at least it's getting fixed. In the mean time. They said to keep giving her the Prevacid they made first even though it is not as effective. They said it will be somewhat effective for a few more days?? So I'm going to do that and Zantac for now-I guess.
Sounds like you are having a nightmare with getting the prevacid mixed right. Most pharmacies haven't a clue about it. I was so lucky to find a great pharmacy and pharmacist who is so knowledgeable about compounding medicines for kids. I'm pretty sure he ships nationwide and is great at dealing with insurance. I've PMed you the information.
Reflux is so miserable. My dd's are 9 months old and we go through OK times and bad times. It's somewhat better now that they are older and moving and playing so I think it keeps thier mind off the pain. Sleeping though is where they really feel the pain and it is so frustrating.

They are going through a bad time right now. Most of thier reflux is silent, but there is still some vomiting. They can start to cry and if I hold them for a minute I know its reflux because I hear the gulpy swallowing followed by arching and more crying.

Tonight they BOTH woke up after and hour and a half. DD2 gets me up at 3:30-4:45 every morning and I really, really look forward to a little time for myself before bed. They were both refluxy, but I had already given them mylanta so they couldn't have any more. I tried to hold them both (in an upright position) on my bed but they only wanted to play. I just got them up rather than struggle to have them sleep. I have no idea weather that was a good idea or not. I brought them to the living room and I felt really frustrated and angry. Fortunately my sister called then and dd's were content to play alone so it helped me feel like I still had some time for me and I was with them. Two hours later I tried again for bed (and dh actually helped!!!) and they went to sleep. Now I need go to bed before they get me up at 3:30am.

Pardon the small vent.
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I know what you mean. I have got up in the middle of the night and took dd out in living room just to get her mind off of the pain.

What I am the most mad about right now is my family telling me that "she should be sleeping through the night at 7 months" and stuff like that. They don't think I should let her cio, they just think I'm not feeding her enough. So last night I went off on my mama and told her if she thinks she knows what Natalee needs then do some research online herself and then tell me what she thinks. They think since is is so fussy at the breast I need to giver her more solids-I just don't think thats the answer! Her Ped. said her weight is fine. Anyway, thanks for letting me vent too.
dd is 2 months old and started showing symptoms at around 3 weeks. We've had her on prevacid for about 3 weeks now and it seems to be helping a little bit finally. She does great at night, no symptoms usually, hers is almost always during the day - all day long....

We saw a GI doc last week and have to wait for approval from our insurance before we can get a prescrip filled for prevacid (we're using samples from the doc right now) She nurses well most of the time, yesterday was a bad day though.
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I know what you mean. I have got up in the middle of the night and took dd out in living room just to get her mind off of the pain.

What I am the most mad about right now is my family telling me that "she should be sleeping through the night at 7 months" and stuff like that. They don't think I should let her cio, they just think I'm not feeding her enough. So last night I went off on my mama and told her if she thinks she knows what Natalee needs then do some research online herself and then tell me what she thinks. They think since is is so fussy at the breast I need to giver her more solids-I just don't think thats the answer! Her Ped. said her weight is fine. Anyway, thanks for letting me vent too.

Does your family live near you and get to see it in person? I was getting the same sort of stuff from my family (who don't live nearby now) until I went to visit and they saw how hard it was and how different than thier experiences with babies.

It's so frustrating when family tries to give advice and they really just don't get it. I know that they give advice because they want to "fix" the problem - but reflux isn't an easy fix. My mom and aunt came to visit this weekend and now that they get what is going on with the reflux they helped by taking care of the girls so I could nap and even holding one of them for a long time when she was refluxing. It was such a nice break for me - a few hours "off" was like a great vacation.
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I empathize with all of you. My 8 year old DD finally "outgrew" her reflux. She was diagnosed at 2 1/2 weeks. We had our last GI appt at Children's Hosp when she was 7. Back then I was using pepcid capsules dumped into bicarb which only had a shelf life of 8 days,zantac, mylanta and mylicon. You may have to find a pharmacy that specializes in compounding or your local Children's Hosp. pharmacy.

We tried eveything. She was always underweight so I gave her liquid supplements, never chocolate flavor as you know which is the worst for reflux babies. DD self soothed with her preference for frozen foods. She loved to eat frozen waffles and chew on ice. She's healthy and happy so take heart, it gets better. I went through this as a single parent.

There is a parent's support group for children of reflux; here's the link;
http://www.reflux.org/


Could you share more of your story? I just don't see this ending any time soon for us and I would love to hear what this reflux road might be like as they get older. What was it like when your dd was able to comunicate about the reflux? What did she say about it? How long did you continue with mylanta and other meds? Were there any long term effects from the meds?
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My family is around a few days every month. They won't say it but I think they believe she is just crying b/c she is hungry. She eats solid food very well around them but fusses at the breast. They can't understand. I don't even know if they truly believes she has reflux. They probably think she wants to wean-hello! I tried telling them she wants to nurse and it just hurts her.

Anyway, I had a question. When I hear people say that then actually know when their baby is refluxing-how do they know? I believe my dd reflux is silent b/c you can hear the spit-up come up then go back down . It doesn't always reach her mouth. Like a "wet burp". So is that when she is refluxing?
with us, i can hear wet burps - he is mostly a silent refluxer though - and he sounds kind of throaty - like he needs to clear his throat. he sounds like that alot, his ped says b/c of the reflux. like he has a chest cold, kwim? but he doesn't.

his reflux is pretty under control, but he is on major doses of zegerid (prilosec) every day. with him, i can tell if it isn't under control b/c he will have eating refusal. when he was a little guy he would cry after nursing and do alot of back arching. things got to a crisis point before we realized how bad the reflux and food allergies were so his primary symptom now is the bottle refusal. he's gotten so much better since we weaned to neocate though.
Hi everyone.

Well, Prevacid seems to be working for us it's been almost a week since he was on it. He's not sleeping any better, in fact I think he's up more now, which I was hoping wouldn't happen! Naps are a bit harder too. It may sound weird, but he doesn't seem to be as tired as he was before
so he doesn't need to nap as often.

In general he's happier. It's easier to get him to smile and laugh, and he's happier for longer periods. He's still fussy a lot of the time but it's not as bad. He also has this little sing song thing he does with his voice that we hear a lot more now.

I tried giving him Mylanta to see if that would make him more comfortable but so far it doesn't seem to make a difference. I think I'll give it another day or two though. We're about to go on a long road trip and I know the car seat will probably make the Reflux worse, so I'm hoping the Mylanta will help keep him comfortable.

The Pharmacy was able to flavor it for me, but my only choice was grape. He still doesn't like it much, but he takes it better than the Zantac and gets more in. He loves the Mylanta though!

I can hear H's we burps too, I can also feel it inside him when I'm holding him.
He's spitting up more with the Prevacid too, which isn't a big deal but interesting. He's also very hoarse, and like carrietorgc said, he sounds like he has a chest cold. He's almost constantly stuffy too.

When I'm nursing H I can hear his tummy making all kinds of noises. It's something I've just noticed recently. Does anyone else notice that?
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