MDC Running Club~June 6

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MamaSoleil

Discussion Starter · Jun 7, 2004

Hello Everyone,

Our group is growing. And I wanted to say along with Schatz, that I do read each and every post. I don't always comment, if I'm home, cause time is limited...when I'm at work, then I have more time on the computer!

Dh and I are doing a 1/2 marathon relay on Sunday. I feel completely unprepared. I ran a 10k race last weekend, and I've only done one run since 3.4miles. Though dh and I have been rollerblading, and biking(me with the two kids in trailer). So at least I'm doing the crosstraining. It's Monday morning, and I want to leave in the next 15 mins for our long run. We are going to do the race route, and see what happens.
Then I'm going to take it easy, as I'm back to work tomorrow. I'm going to be extra careful with nutrition, and of course my biking, and then, I will race!
Happy trails to all,

Nat

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schatz

· #2 · Jun 7, 2004

Nat - you'll do fine in the relay race. You've been running so much lately that a few days off won't make much of a difference.

It's going to be hot here this week so I really need to get out of bed before work to run. I'm about 7 weeks away from my 10-miler and I need to kick things up a notch. I could probably run 7.5 miles tomorrow if I had to but I'm not ready for 10. My goal is to run 4 days this week - each of 4-6 miles in length (maybe one longer run if I'm feeling good). I did mow the lawn yesterday - our lawn is about a 1/2 acre and I went as fast as I could with a non-self-propelled push mower. Worked up a little sweat there.

Anyhoo, here's to the start of another week.

Geofizz

· #3 · Jun 7, 2004

Thanks for starting the new thread.

My plans for the week:

Today ~ 2 miles flat and slow. At least 30 minutes at the p .. a .. r .. k pushing a swing and stretching.
Wednesday ~ regular route, regular pace.

Sometime after that, consider working on increasing speed. I have no long term goals to run much longer than an hour, so I'm going to work on the intensity of that hour. I plan to continue running every other day indefinitely. The trick is to figure out how to make it a habit. I know that for the last several weeks I've been running simply because I knew that if I didn't run, I might not make my goal of finishing the 10k race. Now I need more internal motivation. Oh yeah, and I've kinda dropped the situps and pushups. I need to resume...

kerc

· #4 · Jun 7, 2004

goals for the week:
three 30 minute runs
get my snacking/nutrition under control

I'm taking it easy this week - last week was super hectic with a trip overnight and then friday night we babysat for some friends (they took erin on saturday night so we could build a wall in our basement). I have another business trip this week (one day). Plus, I *think* summer has arrived -- it has been shorts weather here for 4 days. I need to get used to going running in the heat.

oh and I'll add: I usually check in at work and do some number crunching that requires 5 minutes here and there of down time (while my program runs through the data and calculates stuff for me). So I can post a lot.

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Elismama

· #5 · Jun 7, 2004

Thanks for the warm welcome everyone!

Geofizz- congratulations on your strong finish!

I am finally recuperated from my race- my joints were pretty soar yesterday- especially my hips. I'm ready to run today. Goals for the week:

3 days/ 5-6 miles per day
2 days on my bicycle (1 hour or so of riding)
daily walk with Eli and dog

Missbliss- trail racing is fun- I love running on an old railbed trail near my house- its shaded and the surface is soft. But the central section of this trail run was hard- up and down, with lots of roots, rocks and stream crossings.

I'm still thinking about running a 1/2 marathon at the end of August, I'm nervous about running on pavement.. but I love having a set goal to meet.

-jeanie

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Geofizz

· #6 · Jun 7, 2004

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Originally Posted by Elismama
I am finally recuperated from my race- my joints were pretty soar yesterday- especially my hips. I'm ready to run today.

Hey, what's the deal with the hips thing? My right hip is screaming today. I could barely swat down to get a hug goodbye from DD today.

I've never had that before. Odd.

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Originally Posted by Elismama
I'm still thinking about running a 1/2 marathon at the end of August, I'm nervous about running on pavement.. but I love having a set goal to meet.

I've done all my running in the street. The only good trails for running around here either require I drive there or are too narrow for the jogging stroller. Yesterday the race was on a country road that had more side-to-side slope to it than neighborhood streets, and I found it very uncomforable to run anywhere but right along the middle of the road. I figured that out maybe half-way through the race. Something to consider if you're doing a longer race. Maybe that's the problem with my hip.

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schatz

· #7 · Jun 7, 2004

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Hey, what's the deal with the hips thing? My right hip is screaming today. I could barely swat down to get a hug goodbye from DD today.

I've never had that before. Odd.

I find that if I don't stretch out my hip flexors (the front of each hip) enough after running, then my hips get really sore. To do the stretch, I start with a lunge position (front leg bent, back leg straight with foot on the ground). Do this to stretch my calf. Then stand up to straighten front knee and raise the heel of the back foot. Then bend both legs so that both knees are at 90 degree angles. While doing this I concentrate on stretching the front of the hip of the back leg. (wow, it's difficult to explain stretching in written words)

Your hip pain could also be from running on the sloped road. I ran on a beach once and was sore in weird ways because it was slightly sloped (it didn't look sloped to the eye but it was).

Elismama - I say go for the 1/2 marathon but do a few runs on asphalt first to see how your joints feel.

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kerc

· #8 · Jun 7, 2004

hip could be because of the crowning (center higher so water will drain off) of the road. If your neighborhood isn't very crowned, but the road was -- I'd suspect that first. For whatever reason some of our roads are VERY crowned and I just can't run on them. The best thing I've found is to run on the left side and then the right. dh gets pissy because I'm running on the wrong side (of a small street, no traffic mind you), but it helps me.

My right hip also really hurts when I walk/run/hike/whatever down a reasonably steep path. Field camp (hiking around parts of Utah, looking at rocks for a geology class) was murder on my right hip. Advil really helped me though.

Geofizz

· #9 · Jun 7, 2004

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Originally Posted by schatz
I find that if I don't stretch out my hip flexors (the front of each hip) enough after running, then my hips get really sore. To do the stretch, I start with a lunge position (front leg bent, back leg straight with foot on the ground). Do this to stretch my calf. Then stand up to straighten front knee and raise the heel of the back foot. Then bend both legs so that both knees are at 90 degree angles. While doing this I concentrate on stretching the front of the hip of the back leg. (wow, it's difficult to explain stretching in written words)

I can picture that... So as you've described it, it's the rear hip flexor that gets stretched? I'll try it out as soon as my office mate leaves.

(I just wrote out a description of the stretches I do, but they were convoluted and vague. Instead, I found some pictures...)
http://www.exrx.net/Stretches/HipAbd...biotibial.html
http://www.exrx.net/Stretches/Gluteu...atedFloor.html
http://www.exrx.net/Stretches/HipAbductors/Pretzel.html

I did these after the race, but I was anxious to get to breakfast at our favorite Sunday brunch place. (

blueberry pancakes and a peach pecan muffin...) Maybe it wasn't enough considering how much harder I worked my legs than normal. I'm also discovering that I can go up stairs today, but not down.

I definitely need a flat and slow jog today to warm up enough to really stretch. Enough whining. Back to work.

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Geofizz

· #10 · Jun 7, 2004

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Originally Posted by kerc
hip could be because of the crowning (center higher so water will drain off) of the road. If your neighborhood isn't very crowned, but the road was -- I'd suspect that first. For whatever reason some of our roads are VERY crowned and I just can't run on them. The best thing I've found is to run on the left side and then the right. dh gets pissy because I'm running on the wrong side (of a small street, no traffic mind you), but it helps me.

Actually, I remembered you mentioning this a while back. That's what made me move to the center of the road during the race. But at the time, it was my knee and ankle that were complaining.

Ug. Gotta get back to this stupid program. I hate compile bugs.

schatz

· #11 · Jun 7, 2004

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Originally Posted by Geofizz
I can picture that... So as you've described it, it's the rear hip flexor that gets stretched? I'll try it out as soon as my office mate leaves.

I did these after the race, but I was anxious to get to breakfast at our favorite Sunday brunch place. (

blueberry pancakes and a peach pecan muffin...) Maybe it wasn't enough considering how much harder I worked my legs than normal. I'm also discovering that I can go up stairs today, but not down.

yes, the hip flexor of the rear leg gets stretched. Considering you ran faster than normal and didn't stretch quite as long as usual (who could have considering the yummy breakfast you had waiting), your soreness might be the result. I was quite sore for a few days after I ran with my SIL - we ran 5.5 miles (long for me at the time) at a very fast pace (8.5 min/mi) - well, fast for me but not for her.

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kerc

· #12 · Jun 7, 2004

a short easy jog today might really help. I have experienced the "can't go down steps" thing. last summer i discovered that a short run helps. It think it gets the blood flowing and all the waste products moving out of the muscles. Is lactic acid still around 24 hrs after the event? Can't recall. I took exercise, nutrition and stress management in college but can't recall a darn thing I learned it in. Took it to balance the physics, chemistry and math I was taking that semester

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Geofizz

· #13 · Jun 7, 2004

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Originally Posted by kerc
I took exercise, nutrition and stress management in college but can't recall a darn thing I learned it in. Took it to balance the physics, chemistry and math I was taking that semester

(Taking the bait...) To balance a course load of physics, chemistry and math, you need to take a couple lab classes. Duh.

(Written by the person whose easiest college semester was P-chem w/lab, electricity and magnetism w/lab, differential equations, and discrete math.)

.... and I just discovered I don't have the kind of balance Schatz must have doing those stretches.

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Geofizz

· #14 · Jun 7, 2004

Disclaimer: Photo taken at mile 5 1/2 at the top of a pretty long and steep hill.

http://www.geo.lsa.umich.edu/~wpanero/DAARun.html

schatz

· #15 · Jun 7, 2004

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Originally Posted by Geofizz
.... and I just discovered I don't have the kind of balance Schatz must have doing those stretches.

Oh yeah, it can be tricky to stay upright. But, the stretch works very well.

kerc

· #16 · Jun 7, 2004

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Originally Posted by Geofizz
(Taking the bait...) (Written by the person whose easiest college semester was P-chem w/lab, electricity and magnetism w/lab, differential equations, and discrete math.)

I *think* that makes you a nerd.

And you looked good on the run. Although I like photos a little closer up so you can see how the person was feeling at the time.

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mamabeth

· #17 · Jun 7, 2004

Hello all! I'm soooo glad to be back home, and welcome, new running mamas!

Geo-- you rock--and under an hour for your first 10K is amazing!!!! Good job and enjoy a rest week.

I had a crazy week. But I did keep up my running, more or less. I ran in Ft. Myers, Florida, twice, and it was so muggy (at 6 a.m.!!) that I just felt like I was swimming. Then in downtown ********** where I meandered off of the Runner's World suggested loop and into the projects (also at 6 a.m.). When I started seeing needles and things on the ground it got a little scary but I found my way back onto the right route. So you could call it "adventure running."

I ran about an hour each time and then this morning I did 40 minutes with the stroller.

I'm trying to decide whether or not to go for 12 miles this weekend or do 10 again and get used to that. I have plenty of time for the marathon, and my half isn't until October. I do have a 10K race on the 19th that I would like to break an hour on (thanks for the inspiration Geo!) so maybe I'll run long this weekend and then have an easy week before the race.

I've been plagued with blisters too this week. So I broke down and bought some nicer running socks and I hope that helps.

Take care y'all and can I just say again that's it's good to be HOME????
Peace.

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jengi33

· #18 · Jun 7, 2004

I made it today, and it felt really good!
2run/4walk x 5
I walk so slow on the walk part, I wonder if I'm doing any good? I'm just so out of breath after the run, that I can't help it.

kerc

· #19 · Jun 7, 2004

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Originally Posted by jengi33
I walk so slow on the walk part, I wonder if I'm doing any good? I'm just so out of breath after the run, that I can't help it.

YES! What you're doing is called "active rest". The active rest keeps your heartrate up a bit higher than just sitting around --- meaning that the walking is helping you work out too. In addition to the running. Walking also helps remove the waste products from your muscles.

MamaSoleil

Discussion Starter · #20 · Jun 7, 2004

Can't write long, will read other posts later...just wanted to say, dh and I did 10ks this morning, and I beat my race time from last weekend by 4:25 mins!!!! HOLY CRIPES!

Carry on

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