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I wanted to chime in on the "shyness" thread...<br><br>
First, I think that the midwife herself lends a lot to how accepted an apprentice is. That doesn't mean she is the end all of how the student is accepted, but I think if a midwife chooses her student well, then she will be in tune with her, and likewise the student - they will work together well, hopefully, and the clients can see that she is an asset, and not a hindrance. I would be very uncomfortable to work with a midwife if I didn't feel she truly wanted to teach me. If the midwife doesn't want me there truly, then how are her clients going to want me there? So I would examine my relationship with the midwife first.<br><br>
Second, I have 4 children, and have used the same midwife each time. My midwife had an assistant, and her daughter as a student. At the time her daughter was only 15 years old. I adored her daughter. But I really couldn't stand the assistant. She was VERY outgoing. I am an outgoing person too, and I enjoy outgoing people, but I just didn't enjoy her as a person. I think she was too loud, and it didn't seem like she was in tune with how to act at certain times. I just didn't enjoy her. I did however still "allow" her at my birth. I trusted my midwife, and I didn't feel she would bother me so much that she would hinder my labor or birth. My reasoning was that if my midwife wanted her there, then that was important to me. A lot of midwives are more comfortable with having an assistant. As a student, it is important to feed off of your teaching midwife as well as the clients. Some clients are very sociable, and will gab and chit-chat away with you from the first time they meet you. Others are more quiet (like you!) and will ask you a few questions (how long you've been studying, or how you know your midwife) and then politely direct their conversations to the midwife the rest of the time. You need to just go with that flow. Follow their lead. This is a time for learning, and when you follow the lead of the client and the midwife, you should see easily that things will be smooth for you.<br><br>
I can't imagine going to a prenatal and just blabbing and being completely outgoing (and i am a pretty outgoing person). You have to mirror the client. If the client wants to get to know you - they will. There is nothing wrong with sitting back and waiting for your teaching midwife to tell you what she wants you to do. Watching is learning too. Usually there are opportunities for you to welcome the clients, as well as to say goodbye to them, and sometimes that is plenty of interaction. I always try to listen well to the teaching midwife, just as well as the clients need to listen. Because that is how a student will learn.<br><br>
JMO!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Sijae, thank you for your response. It is good advicre, and consistent with what i've read from others who've made it through Orientation to the other side! I guess i just need to trust the process <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
I do have the full curriculum now, and i am NC7. I will move forward, and post here when i can-- i lurk pretty often, you ladies are totally encouraging <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"></div>
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I'm in nc7 as well <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> if you have any puzzlers or need some encouragement please send me an email :) I just finished my Orientation in Sept. so it's fresh in my memory.
 

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Goals for 2010:<br><br>
Finish up my journal from my time in Bali and then blog it a bit.<br>
Finish up all of sections 1 - 4 in AAMI (quite a bit of it done already)<br><br>
I am seriously trying to figure out how to sit for the NARM in 2 years. Because I'm doing all of my apprenticeship overseas at this point I worry that they will soon change their rules on me and my primary births overseas won't count. Just a little thing I've happened to hear <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
As for the PEP process, I have almost all of my births, etc in just more skills to hone. And the studying to pass the NARM.
 

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I am seriously trying to figure out how to sit for the NARM in 2 years. Because I'm doing all of my apprenticeship overseas at this point I worry that they will soon change their rules on me and my primary births overseas won't count. Just a little thing I've happened to hear <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"></div>
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I wouldn't worry about that MamaRabbit, when they recently changed their policy on out-of-country births, I believe they allowed all the births that had been documented prior to the changes. I think as long as your experience was from an approved location, you will be just fine.
 

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Yes they recently changed their policy and my births have been since that change. But they have recently had some major issues with some OOC sites and are considering changing it to allowing assists only and not primaries to count.
 

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But I would bet that they would still allow all the births that occurred prior to any future changes. So anything you have done up until they change things again should still count.
 

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That's what I'm counting on. I am so close to being done ... just 1 or 2 primaries to go, and I need 2 more continuity of care (though I think I may have another one, just need to go back through my client forms).<br><br>
What I really need is more time with a preceptor doing prenatals. I feel like that is my weak point. Would a preceptor take on an apprentice for just prenatals or even an assistant for prenatals? I wouldn't even have to do the births. I'd just like to sit in and observe. Where I've done my prenatals is such a different system and nothing like how they're really done in the USA.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">That's what I'm counting on. I am so close to being done ... just 1 or 2 primaries to go, and I need 2 more continuity of care (though I think I may have another one, just need to go back through my client forms).<br><br>
What I really need is more time with a preceptor doing prenatals. I feel like that is my weak point. Would a preceptor take on an apprentice for just prenatals or even an assistant for prenatals? I wouldn't even have to do the births. I'd just like to sit in and observe. Where I've done my prenatals is such a different system and nothing like how they're really done in the USA.</div>
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I bet you would be able to find a midwife to let you observe/help during prenatals! Although some midwives wouldn't want you to be there during prenatals if you weren't willing to be at the birth.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I bet you would be able to find a midwife to let you observe/help during prenatals! Although some midwives wouldn't want you to be there during prenatals if you weren't willing to be at the birth.</div>
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I think you could too... and even so, if you just observed over a 6 week period, that would give you a chance to attend prenatals for a range of gestation and some homebirths too.
 

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I'd be willing to go to the births if invited, just thinking that if there were other apprentices in the practice it would be okay if I didn't go since I already have so much birth experience.
 

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Hello lovely ones <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wave.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wave"><br>
I'm new here, but so glad to find this forum. I'll be starting my studies with AAMI next month. It's so exciting - and overwhelming. I hear that Orientation is a beast. Oh well...it may be tough, but I'm tougher <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
Goals for 2010:<br>
get my doula practice up and running<br>
complete my CBE cert<br>
attend at least one midwifery/women's health conference (MT in Philly anyone?)<br>
start my prerequisites for nursing school<br><br>
Let's go 2010!!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Hello lovely ones <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wave.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wave"><br>
I'm new here, but so glad to find this forum. I'll be starting my studies with AAMI next month. It's so exciting - and overwhelming. I hear that Orientation is a beast. Oh well...it may be tough, but I'm tougher <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
Goals for 2010:<br>
get my doula practice up and running<br>
complete my CBE cert<br>
attend at least one midwifery/women's health conference (MT in Philly anyone?)<br>
start my prerequisites for nursing school<br><br>
Let's go 2010!!</div>
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Welcome Chloe! I'm in AAMI as well and it takes self-discipline to get through it but it can be done <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br><br>
I'm a little jealous that you are an apprentice herbalist. Herbology is my second love and I'm hoping to work on herbology a lot more once I'm practicing as a midwife.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'd be willing to go to the births if invited, just thinking that if there were other apprentices in the practice it would be okay if I didn't go since I already have so much birth experience.</div>
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You might be able to do that... in fact, I bet it would be easier to find a midwife who would let you observe prenatals without going to births than the other way around! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 

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Question for any AAMI students -<br><br>
Do any of you remember what books/other materials are needed for the Orientation segment? I'm trying to get a head start on my purchases. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"><br><br>
Thanks so much!!
 

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May I join? Hi all! I'm Chelci, I'm 20, I've been married for 2 years and I have 2 beautiful children. I am taking my prerequisites right now to enter a nursing program. I am going the CNM route and eventually plan to get a DnP.<br><br>
I have had 2 births with midwives and I have self-educated myself on a lot of things.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">May I join? Hi all! I'm Chelci, I'm 20, I've been married for 2 years and I have 2 beautiful children. I am taking my prerequisites right now to enter a nursing program. I am going the CNM route and eventually plan to get a DnP.<br><br>
I have had 2 births with midwives and I have self-educated myself on a lot of things.</div>
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Welcome! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hola.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hola">
 

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Thank you!
 

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ME TOO! im 25, with a 7 month old daughter who just crawled off the edge of the bed for the first time! woops. (shes fine, we have a futon) im in about my 5th month of apprenticing with a homebirth midwife in central michigan. im also doing self study, thinking about going through the birthsong midwifery work book. anyone heard of it?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">ME TOO! im 25, with a 7 month old daughter who just crawled off the edge of the bed for the first time! woops. (shes fine, we have a futon) im in about my 5th month of apprenticing with a homebirth midwife in central michigan. im also doing self study, thinking about going through the birthsong midwifery work book. anyone heard of it?</div>
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Welcome to you too! I've heard of that book, but haven't had a chance to look at it yet. You aren't far from me, I'm in NW Ohio. The midwives that assisted me with my 1st VBAC are in Taylor. :)
 
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