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<a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2007-04-26-mit-admissions-dean-out_N.htm?csp=34" target="_blank">Marilee Jones</a> worked for thirty years at a job at MIT that she was not qualified for. She lied on her resume' thirty years ago, claiming she had graduated and had degrees from Union College, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and the Albany Medical College, all in New York State. In fact she had only attended one college for a semester before dropping out.<br><br>
Last year, she co-authored a book, <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Less Stress, More Success: A New Approach To Guiding Your Teen Through College Admissions and Beyond</span>. The first job she was hired for at MIT did not require a college degree, but since she claimed she had some, no one bothered to check at the time.<br><br>
Not too bad for an amateur. Makes me wonder what an education is really all about.
 

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Wow, that's quite something. I remember her from MIT. It's too bad she was dishonest about her degrees, because it seems like she was actually good at her job.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;"><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2007-04-26-mit-admissions-dean-out_N.htm?csp=34" target="_blank">Marilee Jones</a> worked for thirty years at a job at MIT that she was not qualified for.</div>
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If she wasn't qualified for the job, I highly doubt that it would have taken them 30 years to figure out a way to get rid of her <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
What a resume looks like has nothing to do with a person's capabilities.
 

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If a person has a job that includes *admitting people to college* and she lies about her own academic background - she does not have the intellectual integrity to do the job. I'd have sympathy if she'd lied about almost anything else, but I find that appalling.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">If she wasn't qualified for the job, I highly doubt that it would have taken them 30 years to figure out a way to get rid of her</div>
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The fools are the over-educated dopes who run the University. Wonder what made them look up her credentials after all this time? A disgruntled co-worker?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">The fools are the over-educated dopes who run the University.</div>
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What's with the anti-intellectualism? I will be the first to tell you that the MIT administration has made some really poor decisions over the last 10 years - and clearly they had the wool pulled over their eyes here - but "over-education" is the least of their problems. I met a lot of interesting and brilliant people at MIT, including the former president, and they all earned my respect, even when I disagreed with their take on university policy.
 

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I won't go so far as to say I feel sorry for her, but I totally understand how her one initial lie sort of snowballed on her.<br><br>
When I was in my senior year of college, I was offered a great job in another state, contingent on completion of my degree. But when the end of the year rolled around, I was 3 credits shy of graduating. I packed up, left college, and started work anyway. No one asked, no one checked up on me. I did a great job, and got promoted several times. About two years later, I took the remaining course I needed and finished out the degree, but I still have the inaccurate graduation year listed on my resume. I'm afraid to correct it because it would make the entire timeline look odd and be obvious that I was underqualified for my first job. I still use that old boss as a reference, and I'm afraid someone might ask him about it.
 

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As someone who used to work at MIT, I have to agree with Trillian here. Yeah, they don't always make the best policy decisions (I'd love to hear about any bureaucracy that does), but I was always impressed with the level of intelligence and intellectual curiosity and creativity of the people at MIT (really, not just their depth of intelligence, but breadth as well), as well as the respect I was treated with as a lowly administrative assistant (including the interactions I had with the current chancellor). I don't particularly miss my job there, but I definitely miss the "over-educated dopes."<br><br>
Re: Marilee Jones, I never had occasion to work with her so I can't speak personally. Obviously, she was very intelligent and good at her job, but I agree that the lies that got her there do require her resignation.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">The fools are the over-educated dopes who run the University. Wonder what made them look up her credentials after all this time? A disgruntled co-worker?</div>
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Someone at MIT received an anonymous phone call about her fabricated resume, and then MIT decided to look into it.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Someone at MIT received an anonymous phone call about her fabricated resume, and then MIT decided to look into it.</div>
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Darn those disgruntled employees. But, seriously, when you lie about something as large as this, it's bound to haunt you. Especially when you are in a position in academia.
 

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I thought that it was the article and follow-up letters to the editor of Wall Street Journal about admissions ethics and how this is supposedly very common. One of the letters actually mentioned, without naming names, someone who had a fabricated resume and was hired at a top university in the northeast. A few days later, this story broke. I had thought they were connected.
 

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According to the USA today article:<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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Thirty years ago would have been 1977 -- not an easy time for a woman to take on a position in a largely male institution. Perhaps lying was her way of getting past her XX genetics to get her foot in the door.
 

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I graduated from college in 1976 and I was working. Please. Women had been working in a men's world for a long time. You sound as if women just got the vote in 1977. The Nineteenth Amendment passed in August, 1919. President Herbert Hoover met his wife, Lou, in college at Stanford in the geology department at the turn of the last century. Capable women have populated the institutions of higher learning for a long time.<br><br>
Women worked in factories in the 1940s during WWII. Women have been working outside and inside the home for a very long time. My grandmother was educated and a physical therapist in the 1920s and 1930s.<br><br>
Who do you think was doing all of this work all of this time? If it was so unusual for a woman to have a college education and work at a university at this point in time, her credentials would have been more heavily scruntinized. No where in the article does it say she was the first woman to apply for such a position or to hold such a position. I attended UCLA at the time and there were plenty of women in the upper echelons of the University, including a Women's Studies Department.<br><br>
One thing I recall being taught was never to lie on a job application or on a resume'. That never changes. Honesty counts whether a person is a man or a woman.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Thirty years ago would have been 1977 -- not an easy time for a woman to take on a position in a largely male institution. Perhaps lying was her way of getting past her XX genetics to get her foot in the door.</div>
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The job she was applying for at MIT back in the 70s didn't even require a college degree, but she said she had one.
 
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