MJ Smoke & Babies

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TForce

Discussion Starter · Mar 31, 2006

Okay ... I'm very nervous about posting this, and I don't know if this is the right place. I need to get some advice, and I figured you all would be open-minded.

My baby boy (8 months) spends a lot of time alone with his dad while I'm at school. DP is a wonderful father and loves DS very, very much ... BUT ... He doesn't have qualms abouts smoking MJ around DS. This really bothers me, and I've mentioned it many, many times to him. Am I just nagging? I know tobacco smoke is definately bad for kids, but does anyone have evidence for MJ smoke hurting kids? Now, DS is probably only exposed to one joint every couple of days, so am I just being a nag?

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Bartock

· #2 · Mar 31, 2006

Have you checked out the MJ thread here?

mothragirl

· #3 · Mar 31, 2006

don't you have a porch? i'm not anti-MJ but smokers in our house go on the back porch.

TForce

Discussion Starter · #4 · Mar 31, 2006

Where's the MJ thread? I'm not a big fan of this post being here.

No; we're in an apartment building -- no porch.

annekevdbroek

· #5 · Mar 31, 2006

Marijuana smoke and tobacco smoke are similar in their content of toxic substances such as tar, carbon monoxide, benzopyrene, and cyanide. Studies have also found DNA damange in the lungs of marijuana smokers (may predispose to lung cancer). Obviously there is also exposure to THC with exposure to marijuana. - Source: Buzzed, by Kuhn, et. al. (1998)

I wouldn't be comfortable with the smoke exposure, since it is quite similar to cigarette smoke.

DoulaClara

· #6 · Mar 31, 2006

Hi TForce,

I think you're okay posting this here. You have a valid concern for your babe, and I think you've already made a decision. If you've ever seen what happens when you blow MJ smoke into an dog's face (

: I wasn't there, but saw the video, and never hung with those freaks again!) I guess I could make a good bet that it's not the thing to do with a baby in closed quarters. Could DP just do it in a garage or somewhere else when you are able to be home with the baby?

Also... as a small child who grew up around drug abuse, maybe you should have DP do his recreational activity where the little guy can't see it...

Clara

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Bartock

· #7 · Mar 31, 2006

If you go to seach forums go to the finding you tribe one, in it you will find March 06 MJ thread.

JustVanessa

· #8 · Mar 31, 2006

I think any kind of smoke around a baby is bad....let alone the fact of being stoned while caring for a child.
But that is just my .02

rootzdawta

· #9 · Mar 31, 2006

I'm not a fan of any kind of smoke around a baby either. Heck, I can't really deal with the smoke so I know a babe would have a hard time of it. If it makes you uncomfy, asks dh to go to smoke in the bathroom with the door closed and the window open. That's what my friend had her dh do since they lived in an apartment.

For some folks, MJ is a sacred thing that is not done casually by any stretch of the imagination, i.e. folks don't do it to get "stoned." It's taken as seriously as the Christian sacrament of Communion. I, for one, think cigarette smoke is far worse than MJ smoke or even plain tobacco smoke because both MJ and tobacco are naturally growing plants.

ryleeee

· #10 · Mar 31, 2006

i wouldn't smoke around my son.
we have a balcony though, and we smoke outside.
i don't have any trouble caring for my child stoned, i play with him more and have more patience.

eirual

· #11 · Mar 31, 2006

My hubby's a MJ fan as well, but i've asked him to take it outside. If he insists on using while watching your babe (I personally don't like that, but hey) I'd suggest insisting on a vaporiser so it effects only him. He can give up a week's or two's worth of the grass to outfit himself with a vaporiser that will have much less of an impact on your DS. Make it clear what you want/expect from him.

malachi's_mommy

· #12 · Mar 31, 2006

I'd be afraid the baby would get a contact buzz or something. I think i'd ask him to go to a buddy's house or something when he does it. Plus i know everytime i would get high (which i don't anymore) all i would wan't to do is eat and sleep so i don't know if i could trust anyone to watch a baby when they're stoned. i think if someone is gonna do any kind of drugs MJ is the best choice just not around a baby.

Smithie

· #13 · Mar 31, 2006

I think a vaporizer or shutting himself in the bathroom with an air filter are both acceptable compromises. I wouldn't insist that a person spending all day alone with a child never ingest a little MJ or have a glass of wine (obviously, getting stoned off your ass or blind drunk are both very different than ingesting a moderate amount), but if he can't go outside then he can't just smoke in the same room as the baby.

My mother smoked dope, but was very conscientious about the actual smoke. I seem to have grown up unscathed. I do wish she had kept it a secret, though, because it was awkward for me to know that my parent was doing something illegal, esp. going through that fascist scare-tactic DARE program in school. Tell your dp from me that it's worth some inconvenience to spare your son that problem. Once he's old enough (teenager), he won't care.

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Thursday Girl

· #14 · Mar 31, 2006

i'm with the not in front of the kiddo thing, or enclosed spaces. i just remember all the little kids and babies i have seen around MJ smoke. especially the one little baby, the poor kid was just so high, his eyes were all red and he just stared into space. of course in that case they not only smoked it around him but blew it in his face.

i don't have anything against it, i just think it shouldn't be done in closed quarters. my dh has smoked it on the back porch well dd #1 was playing in the backyard, but she didn't see anything. although i imagine when she gets older and smells it for the first time, she will recognize the smell just like my dh did.

courtney

riverundine

· #15 · Mar 31, 2006

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Originally Posted by Smithie
I think a vaporizer or shutting himself in the bathroom with an air filter are both acceptable compromises. I wouldn't insist that a person spending all day alone with a child never ingest a little MJ or have a glass of wine (obviously, getting stoned off your ass or blind drunk are both very different than ingesting a moderate amount), but if he can't go outside then he can't just smoke in the same room as the baby.

My mother smoked dope, but was very conscientious about the actual smoke. I seem to have grown up unscathed. I do wish she had kept it a secret, though, because it was awkward for me to know that my parent was doing something illegal, esp. going through that fascist scare-tactic DARE program in school. Tell your dp from me that it's worth some inconvenience to spare your son that problem. Once he's old enough (teenager), he won't care.

i have to say i am very grateful that my parents did not hide the fact that they smoked herb from us. it allowed them the opportunity to explain the reality of the DARE program to us. we had open communication and trust. we were able to "see" and know that our parents were capable, responsible, loving, honest, open, etc....as well as fully functional. knowing that smoking herb didn't "change" them for the worse allowed us to see how ridiculous the DARE program was. and they trusted all of us to come to our own conclusions. imho, i'm all for honesty.

another vote for the vape...and to head over to the MJ thread

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Greenie

· #16 · Mar 31, 2006

I agree with River, though, your babe is still very tiny. Can he go into another room while your little one is sleeping/playing? That seems like it would be the best idea. I'm a big believer in the idea that you don't subject anyone to a mind altering substance without their permission. Yes, I'm counting Dogs, too.

Have him leave the room (tar isn't goot for baby) and when it comes the right time, you can talk to your child about drugs and properly using them. That's talking Tylenol, Sudafed, Prescriptions, Marijuana, Etc.

Good Luck Mama!

Smithie

· #17 · Mar 31, 2006

I'm all for honesty within families, I just think fourth-graders shouldn't have to keep secrets about illegal behavior. I spent a lot of time worrying that somebody would find out about the drug usage and I'd be taken away from my parents.

I have a brother ten years younger than I am, and he wasn't told about the dope thing until he was a young teenager, and IMO he was better off for it. A 14 y.o. has a lot more sophisticated understanding of the shades-of-grey nature of world than a little kid. My parents still told him that DARE was bullshit, but they presented it as an abstraction rather than "no honey, don't cry, mom is NOT on a downward spiral that will end with a cocaine overdose."

God, I can't believe my school was allowed to teach that shit.

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mamaroni

· #18 · Mar 31, 2006

I'll agree with what my MJ tribemates have said. . . I'm not opposed to MJ use in general or even while caring for a child, however, I would not expose any child to smoke of any kind. In this house, any use occurs outside and after bedtime/at nap time. You should definitely look into a vaporizer, and come check out the MJ Mamas tribe for more info.

gypsy4360

· #19 · Mar 31, 2006

I have to agree with the things about "dare". If you tell kids alll this really bad stuff about pot, they try it, it doesn't happen, then they just think they have been lied to and are more likely to try the drugs that really can kill them because they won't believe what they have been told about it.
Maybe your child shouldn't be in the same room, and should be kept from the knowledge of it as long as he can, but getting a little buzz won't stop dad from taking proper care of the babe!

ryleeee

· #20 · Mar 31, 2006

definitely not.
i think the people i know that smoke pot are more careful around haye and play more with him (like i said before). i wouldn't leave him with anybody to look after, but my friends/husband/myself have a great time with him.
i don't want my son to grow up sheltered. i will be honest with him from a young age and hopefully by then the laws will have changed.

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