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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>1blueheron</strong> <a href="/community/t/1343652/moms-with-babes-chat#post_16883185"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><p>When do these afterpains stop?  Ugh!</p>
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<br><br><p><span><img alt="hug2.gif" id="user_yui_3_4_1_2_1329747463516_164" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/hug2.gif">They SUCK. This is my third, and they were comparable to transition ctx for me. After about a week and a half they were gone for me. I broke down and took meds for them. For a few days after the birth, I was in so much pain from cramps that I'd shake.</span></p>
 

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<p>The afterpains are rough!  I was NOT AT ALL expecting them to be so bad after a second child.  I think my afterpains lasted about 4 days, but were getting lesser each day.  The first 2 days were like being in middle labor all over again (and again, and again!).</p>
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<p>Ive been shaking from mine too. I almost lost my lunch. Sadly I've been taking meds for them too. I just couldn't hang like that. I felt like I was going to drop baby and we can't have that. Even WITH the meds, there's still break through. Crazy!</p>
 

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<p>Sorry to hear that so many of you are having bad afterbirth pains.  I was on Ibuprofen to manage my c-section pain so mine (or what I felt of them) were pretty mild. </p>
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<p>Things here are going well.  Though it turns out that all four of us were positive for strep throat.  We now have penicillin time in my family (please no criticism for giving the babe antibiotics-- I did the research and felt that this was the right choice).  The baby is clearly feeling better.  No more green boogies and a much bigger appetite.    She's still a slow gainer but not quite as slow.  She gained 5 oz from week 3-4 and she's still a little sick so I'm optimistic that the strep explains  the slow growth and soon I can let my good little sleeper sleep four hours at night if she wants to!  The antibiotics give her gas though so she's added a few more fussy times into the day.  5 more days of that...</p>
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<p>AtomicRocket, how are the nursing and weight gain issues going for you?  I know this can be heartbreaking.  We hear all about how breastfeeding is natural and normal and that doesn't also prepare us for the fact that it can be REALLY hard.  I hope you are doing ok. </p>
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<p>As for pregnancy weight...  When I last got on the scale I had only 3 lbs to go to get back to my pre-pregnancy (overweight) weight.  But, I've been so hungry recently that I'm eating a ton and most of it is crap because DH is just heating up take out, leftovers or trader joe's meals for me.  Not the healthy fruit and veggie and fresh cooked food approach I need!  I'm not getting back on that scale for now...  But, I'm feeling very motivated to be healthy and active but my body is not quite ready for it.  My incision is still sore in spots so I don't think I should be doing too much yet.  We'll have to start a weight loss thread in a few weeks to help those of us who want to lose find some support!</p>
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<p>Adaline'sMama - your comment about becoming a family of four really resonated with me.  I find myself looking at sibling pairs when we go out and thinking about them and their apparent similarities and differences and their independence from their parents.  I've always been so close with my sisters and resented my mother trying to mediate our relationships; it's really strange to be on the other side. </p>
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<p>Oh yeah, speaking of siblings, we had a big milestone.  DD1 finally decided to hold the baby.  She's been warm and affectionate all the time but a little reserved and a little concerned about hurting the fragile baby (blame that on someone at the stupid hospital).  Last week though she was hugging the baby with me and she looked at me and said "It's almost like I was holding her" and so I put the baby in her lap and she held her for a minute.  She's clearly not ready to sit and cuddle her for hours but it's nice to see that she's less nervous.   </p>
 

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<p>Glad to be on "this side":)</p>
<p>Bad afterpains here too! The first night I broke down and had DH go to the store for advil, I was about to vomit from the pain. It really is not fair, lol! This is after I started on Arnica immediately after birth, Motherwort tincture since before birth, and magnesium! Thought for sure those could help! They seem to be getting better, 2 dys PP now. My last birth my stiches tore and I developed an (suspected) uterine infection and the meds gave me c.diff, SO anything's better than that and I'm totally taking it slow! </p>
<p>Emotions are kicking in today, luckily DH finished the placenta this am so I'm taking my pills and will stay with the Motherwort. I just know I'll have a breakdown when he goes back to work Monday, so I'm trying to enjoy this week and not think about it!</p>
<p>DS1 is so happy about "baby", but totally going crazy w/all this energy! He keeps lunging at him and will suddenly try to jump on him. He's having a hard time controlling himself!</p>
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<p>We have to take ever to the ped tomorrow to check his hips. Apparently since he was breech for so long, he might have issues, so MW said to check him out (which sucks b/c we don't even have a regular ped. since we never go, so we're driving across town to a more "natural" approach clinic-we'll see!)</p>
 

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<p>Afterbirth pains only lasted 3 days at the most for me I think. I put drops of Motherswort in water and drank that for the pain. Something to look into. I think I spelled that right.</p>
 

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<p>Hello Ladies...My little Cupcake is 3 weeks old and I am recovering SLOWLY from my c-section...I really wanted to be doing things by now but this recovery is a really slow process.  I can tell I over did it yesterday as my abs are sore today.  Other than that Cupcake is a good eater (bottle fed since the docs found a heart condition in me and the meds I take are not good for baby) and she is a good sleeper too :)</p>
<p>It was nice reading all the check-ins.</p>
 

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<p>Bad afterpains here too! The first night I broke down and had DH go to the store for advil, I was about to vomit from the pain. It really is not fair, lol! This is after I started on Arnica immediately after birth, Motherwort tincture since before birth, and magnesium! Thought for sure those could help! They seem to be getting better, 2 dys PP now. My last birth my stiches tore and I developed an (suspected) uterine infection and the meds gave me c.diff, SO anything's better than that and I'm totally taking it slow! </p>
<p>Emotions are kicking in today, luckily DH finished the placenta this am so I'm taking my pills and will stay with the Motherwort. I just know I'll have a breakdown when he goes back to work Monday, so I'm trying to enjoy this week and not think about it!</p>
<p>DS1 is so happy about "baby", but totally going crazy w/all this energy! He keeps lunging at him and will suddenly try to jump on him. He's having a hard time controlling himself!</p>
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<p>We have to take ever to the ped tomorrow to check his hips. Apparently since he was breech for so long, he might have issues, so MW said to check him out (which sucks b/c we don't even have a regular ped. since we never go, so we're driving across town to a more "natural" approach clinic-we'll see!)</p>
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<p>Thanks for asking, treerose! He's fine, though she wants to check him again in a month. He has a bit of a click to one hip but thinks it'll be OK and work itself out:) The good news is I found a ped I like! Hooray for that!</p>
 

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<p>hey, it's good to see how you all are doing.  parsley, it sucks about the strep-- at least you all kind of have it simultaneously, so you're not wondering whether anyone will or won't catch it!</p>
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<p>i'm not having afterpains.. i've even stopped bleeding and bebe is 3 weeks on tuesday.  don't know what's up with that, trying to take it easy but i am kind of going stir crazy in the house. </p>
<p>nursing is going a little better for us, still using the shield a few times, usually at night when he's being too sleepy to latch, but i'm past being afraid of supply issues with it.</p>
<p>placenta pills are working well-- for those of you who are doing them, did you get prints of them or anything?  the person who encapsulated ours does a reading of sorts and prints, and it's mind blowing how different the two (from dd and this baby) are/were from each other.  i sort of expected most placentas to look the same, but they didn't, not remotely. </p>
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<p>i think i am going to try to work on my birth story & put it up.  :)  hope everybody's well or at least on the way there. </p>
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My girl doesn't have the best latch, not awful, but not perfect 100% of the time. Most of the time it's pretty good but occasionally I get a slight lipstick shaped nipple. Should I be worried? Do I need to work on correcting her latch? It's kinda hard to correct with her mouth being so small and my boobs being so big! Sometimes it hurts to nurse and sometimes it doesn't. I can usually correct the latch during a feeding by tugging on her chin and shoving more nipple in her mouth. I'll redo her latch if she gets just the nipple in her mouth.<br><br>
I wasn't too worried since she gained 2 oz in one day and she has 7+ wet diapers a day, so she's definitely getting enough to eat. I just want to make sure it won't cause problems later on...
 

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So, Charlie will be 5 weeks on Thursday. Im already getting sad about how fast time is flying. With DD there was this bubble world that we lived in for three months after she was born and time just seemed to stop. He was a month old yesterday, and I didnt even notice that it was a month. Is this what the rest of life will be like?<br><br>
He is doing great. He's gained about 2 lbs since birth, still nursing well, and still cannot stand to be wet at all. My DH and I refer to him as our "gross baby" sometimes because he is really, really farty. He rarely poops, but he farts all the time. And his burps are super loud, like people have thought it was an adult burp. We are still pumping, and I have given him a bottle a few times. I had a stomach bug last week and it was so awesome to have the pumped milk because I just couldnt nurse him when I was too nauseous.<br><br>
I go through days where the bleeding is way worse than other days. Sometimes my pantyliner doesnt have a spot on it, and sometimes I could soak a pad. I thought for sure it would be over by now, since I just had light spotting for so long. Other than that, I feel pretty good, especially when my toddler lets me sleep.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>yippiehippie</strong> <a href="/community/t/1343652/moms-with-babes-chat/20#post_16889776"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><p>Thanks for asking, treerose! He's fine, though she wants to check him again in a month. He has a bit of a click to one hip but thinks it'll be OK and work itself out:) The good news is I found a ped I like! Hooray for that!</p>
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<br><br><p>I am soooo glad to hear that - what a relief.</p>
 

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Adaline'smama, I was wondering if anyone else's baby had such bad gas. My son has had since a day old, and it is stinky! Ijust yesterday, I decided to cut out any major dairy to see if that helps. I don't mind the stink, I just feel so bad for his discomfort.<br>
Other than that, we are doing well. He is a great nurser, hasn't lost much weight, but man does he like to suck on things. Much more than my first son.
 

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My girl doesn't have the best latch, not awful, but not perfect 100% of the time. Most of the time it's pretty good but occasionally I get a slight lipstick shaped nipple. Should I be worried? Do I need to work on correcting her latch? It's kinda hard to correct with her mouth being so small and my boobs being so big! Sometimes it hurts to nurse and sometimes it doesn't. I can usually correct the latch during a feeding by tugging on her chin and shoving more nipple in her mouth. I'll redo her latch if she gets just the nipple in her mouth.<br>
I wasn't too worried since she gained 2 oz in one day and she has 7+ wet diapers a day, so she's definitely getting enough to eat. I just want to make sure it won't cause problems later on...</div>
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I feel the asme way about the latch. Our nights are the worst bc I'm too tired to work on it. But during the day I try hard to correct by pulling out her lips I think it's a small lips big breasts thing too and we are getting used to each other still. It doesn't hurt nearly as bad as DD1 and I've only used lanolin the first couple days. I think the latch is super important but her ability to nurse is the priority. So if she's eating and you're not in pain then it's probably going to be ok. I'd just keep trying. Congrats again <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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<p>TGIF!! It was DH's week back at work...so happy for the weekend! The week went so much better than I thought, we've only been out once - to the chiropractor last night. Otherwise, I've been trying to lie around and not worry about doing much (and that's hard for me, I'm usually a go, go, go, stress case, lol!), enjoying my babies and help DS1 adjust. Gradually I've gotten more tired, though, so I'm excited to sleep this weekend!! </p>
<p>I wish people would understand more what we're going through now, I've heard some places treat new mamas as delicately as new babes, which makes sense to me! The emotional and physical toll that 9 months of pregnancy, followed by the whole birthing experience, then feeling the afterpains and crazy emotions of the postpartum periiod...it's amazing we can function at all, much less take care of the baby's every needs and respond to others! I got in a little fight w/DH last night, after being in such bliss for weeks:( It was stupid, he isn't installing the carseat to my satisfaction and he just started getting under my skin (he was trying to be patient w/me, I just couldn't take it!). So it pissed him off finally and me of course. I feel like I just need a few more weeks of sensitivity til I get back to normal self, you know? On sunday he swore I'd call crying on Mon., but I was really in a great mood until yesterday when he set me off! Grr. Hopefully he'll be the bigger person and come home happy and we'll be good to go for the weekend!</p>
<p>What's everyone else been doing for their babymoons? We've also had no visitors besides MIL (to take DS1 out only), which has been a dream! Though FIL got mad at DH on the phone about it. He wanted to bring some girl we've never met - no way I said! Absolutely I don't want a stranger in my home, holding my new baby, and how weird for DS1 too, no thanks. I didn't even want him here the first week. Sorry, bonding w/my new family. Am I incredibly rude?? (PS, no visitors has meant no food! Good thing I have freezer meals!)</p>
 

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yippeehippie, I feel you on the wishing people understood what we were going through. In the last months of pregnancy, it seemed like I couldnt open a door for myself. Yesterday I had to manage opening a door while pushing a stroller with one hand , a diaper bag draped over my shoulder, and carrying an infant in my wrap while several people looked at me like I was crazy. WTF? If I was still pregnant, people would have been begging to open the door for me and asking how much longer I had to go. Now they just look at me like Im a wreck, and then smile and tell me "It looks like you have your hands full". Thanks, that is exactly what I want to hear while the door is hitting me in the ass and you stand there looking at me like a crazy person. Grrr.....<br><br><br>
Slimkins, While DS has a lot of gas, I dont really think he is uncomfortable. I think he just farts all the time, so its all coming out and its not staying in and building up. He (knock on wood) doesnt seem to mind it, hes just stinky.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>yippiehippie</strong> <a href="/community/t/1343652/moms-with-babes-chat/20#post_16898010"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><p>TGIF!! It was DH's week back at work...so happy for the weekend! The week went so much better than I thought, we've only been out once - to the chiropractor last night. Otherwise, I've been trying to lie around and not worry about doing much (and that's hard for me, I'm usually a go, go, go, stress case, lol!), enjoying my babies and help DS1 adjust. Gradually I've gotten more tired, though, so I'm excited to sleep this weekend!! </p>
<p>I wish people would understand more what we're going through now, I've heard some places treat new mamas as delicately as new babes, which makes sense to me! The emotional and physical toll that 9 months of pregnancy, followed by the whole birthing experience, then feeling the afterpains and crazy emotions of the postpartum periiod...it's amazing we can function at all, much less take care of the baby's every needs and respond to others! I got in a little fight w/DH last night, after being in such bliss for weeks:( It was stupid, he isn't installing the carseat to my satisfaction and he just started getting under my skin (he was trying to be patient w/me, I just couldn't take it!). So it pissed him off finally and me of course. I feel like I just need a few more weeks of sensitivity til I get back to normal self, you know? On sunday he swore I'd call crying on Mon., but I was really in a great mood until yesterday when he set me off! Grr. Hopefully he'll be the bigger person and come home happy and we'll be good to go for the weekend!</p>
<p>What's everyone else been doing for their babymoons? We've also had no visitors besides MIL (to take DS1 out only), which has been a dream! Though FIL got mad at DH on the phone about it. He wanted to bring some girl we've never met - no way I said! Absolutely I don't want a stranger in my home, holding my new baby, and how weird for DS1 too, no thanks. I didn't even want him here the first week. Sorry, bonding w/my new family. Am I incredibly rude?? (PS, no visitors has meant no food! Good thing I have freezer meals!)</p>
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I AGREE!!!! Today DD2 will be 1 week old and what a week., My parents are here, which has been helpful because DH could not take a week off and my healing has been painful. I did have 2 of my mama friends come over yesterday. The first week of DD1's life, no one entered our home for a week and it was blissful. Nothing but freezer meals, and us bonding with our baby. This time around unfortunately, I knew DH wouldn't have the time off (he was hospitalized in January and used up all but 4 days). So he took off half a day Friday when I was in labor and Monday to be with us but I'm grateful my parents are here. They've been a huge help with DD1 when she's amicable and DD2 when I need one-on-one time with DD1. They've also cooked so I can save my freezer meals for another week (phew). Anyway, that's my unique situation. But I've enjoyed just being home with the exception of one trip to the ped for both girls. (so silly, when I KNOW they're healthy beautiful and perfect....)</p>
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<p>So yeah, I feel fragile and I want to be treated as such. I don't want to be expected to get it all done. I'm still bleeding, still cramping at times, have stitches and swelling that ache and I'm exhausted. I'm nervous for when my parents leave Tuesday morning and I start to do this on my own. I'm really really really nervous. I don't know about going out. I don't know if DD1 will act out making things difficult? She's so easy when she's easy but when she's upset I need 2 hands and then some. I think I just need to plan on staying in next week too. I mean DD2 will only be in her 2nd week of life and this will give DD1 and I a chance to figure out how to juggle our new living and family situation.</p>
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<p>Emotionally, I still have a lot of tears that long to be shed and I cry over silly things because I'm not even sure what I want to cry about but it's some culmination of pregnancy, labor, delivery, new baby, older baby growing up, gratefulness for this awesome responsibility and beautiful family. Sigh... I'm rambling. Let me just send hugs and understanding your way and wish us all a lovely weekend of family and rest.</p>
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yippeehippie, I feel you on the wishing people understood what we were going through. In the last months of pregnancy, it seemed like I couldnt open a door for myself. Yesterday I had to manage opening a door while pushing a stroller with one hand , a diaper bag draped over my shoulder, and carrying an infant in my wrap while several people looked at me like I was crazy. WTF? If I was still pregnant, people would have been begging to open the door for me and asking how much longer I had to go. Now they just look at me like Im a wreck, and then smile and tell me "It looks like you have your hands full". Thanks, that is exactly what I want to hear while the door is hitting me in the ass and you stand there looking at me like a crazy person.</p>
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<p>Ha, this is too true, but DH gets the opposite treatment. DH wears Ds in the ergo most times when we go out and people can't wait to open the door for my 6'5" husband. He and the babe went to the hardware store this weekend and the employees loaded all the stuff onto the cart for him and an employee pushed the cart out to the car! He said even though he gets funny looks (men carrying babies are still not common out here) people have been so much more friendly and helpful.<br>
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So yeah, a month in and still feeling overwhelmed here. I can not imagine how all yall with older kids do it! My nipples are still  tender despite a good latch. I'm not surprised since I've always been sensitive to touch and bruise super easily. The demands of nursing have been hard for me and I feel run down a lot. Emotionally it has been really rough. I was not prepared for a baby that needs to be held all the time. But a baby that needs to be snuggled all day definitely beats baby that cries all day(which was our first three weeks). Its just hard to "run" a house while laying on the couch most of the day. I'm doing more now (thank goodness for the moby wrap!) but I still feel pretty useless. Although DH has been great I feel guilty dropping DS in his lap as soon as he gets home so I can do laundry, dinner, etc... On the plus side DS and DH are totally bonded. Ds just sleeps on dad's chest and they can go for hours like this. No such luck for me since Ds can't sleep on my chest with the food right there.</p>
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<p>We've also become an unintentional co-sleeping family which freaks me out. We had a co-sleeper bassinet against the bed which Ds liked when he was swaddled, but he hates being wrapped now and won't sleep in the co-sleeper unwrapped for whatever reason. He snoozes away in the bed with us, but DH is a very, very heavy sleeper (like he slept though an earthquake once). Even though he's not a flipper I'm still worried about him squishing Ds.<br>
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<p>Emotionally, I still have a lot of tears that long to be shed and I cry over silly things because I'm not even sure what I want to cry about but it's some culmination of pregnancy, labor, delivery, new baby, older baby growing up, gratefulness for this awesome responsibility and beautiful family. Sigh... I'm rambling. Let me just send hugs and understanding your way and wish us all a lovely weekend of family and rest.</p>
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<p>Same here for sure! So much crying to be done...I finally broke down yesterday in the shower and felt oh so much better after I got that out.</p>
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So yeah, a month in and still feeling overwhelmed here. I can not imagine how all yall with older kids do it! My nipples are still  tender despite a good latch. I'm not surprised since I've always been sensitive to touch and bruise super easily. The demands of nursing have been hard for me and I feel run down a lot. Emotionally it has been really rough. I was not prepared for a baby that needs to be held all the time. But a baby that needs to be snuggled all day definitely beats baby that cries all day(which was our first three weeks). Its just hard to "run" a house while laying on the couch most of the day. I'm doing more now (thank goodness for the moby wrap!) but I still feel pretty useless. Although DH has been great I feel guilty dropping DS in his lap as soon as he gets home so I can do laundry, dinner, etc... On the plus side DS and DH are totally bonded. Ds just sleeps on dad's chest and they can go for hours like this. No such luck for me since Ds can't sleep on my chest with the food right there.</p>
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<p>We've also become an unintentional co-sleeping family which freaks me out. We had a co-sleeper bassinet against the bed which Ds liked when he was swaddled, but he hates being wrapped now and won't sleep in the co-sleeper unwrapped for whatever reason. He snoozes away in the bed with us, but DH is a very, very heavy sleeper (like he slept though an earthquake once). Even though he's not a flipper I'm still worried about him squishing Ds.<br>
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<p>I can't imagine doing this with another babe (or babes) in the house!! Seriously simply the mix of a toddler and a tear would be enough to make me cry every day! Thank God for good help, my mom has been here and will be here for another week so i'm *praying* my tear will heal up by then...Thankfully I haven't had to deal with a crying baby much at all.</p>
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<p>'Unintentional co-sleeping family'- thats exactly how I would describe us. Its crazy how much better he'll sleep when hes near me. I'm not too worried about it but my dh seems to be. Hes going to be gone for the evening running the ambulance in our city and he said to me before he left "don't roll over and suffocate the baby tonight, ok?" I asked him if he was really that worried and he said "no, but that would not be a fun call for me to respond to". Sooo, I'm still working on getting him into the co sleeper as often as I can just so dh doesn't have to worry about it.</p>
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