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Hi again!<br><br>
Thanks for the info on this thread ladies!<br><a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=417749" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=417749</a><br><br>
I have a few more questions, feel free to answer a few or all if you a minute! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br><b>Where do you all live and what do you like best about it?<br>
What does your significant other do for a living?<br>
What is min wage there?<br>
Trader Joes? or other health food type markets?<br>
What do YOU do on rainy days?<br>
How is the public transport or am I going to need a car? (I'm going to need a car with a newborn and a toddler huh?) eep.<br>
Peds? Who are your peds? Are they super crunchy?</b><br>
Did any of your move to Portland from out of state with children/babies? Can you tell me how that went?<br><br>
I think that's it. Anything else you would love to share with us? I'm trying to gather this list of great things about Portland so I have good fire power when discussing it with FH.<br><br>
Thank you so much for taking the time to read this all.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/heartbeat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="heartbeat"><br>
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<b>Where do you all live and what do you like best about it?</b>I live in SE - It's not the greatest neiborhood but I like that there are plenty of live minded moms close by.<br><b>What does your significant other do for a living?</b> He's a SAHD. I'm an SLP.<br><b>What is min wage there?</b> DNK<br><b>Trader Joes? or other health food type markets?</b> I love Traders. We also have Wild Oats, New Seasons, and Whole foods. Fred Meyer (supermarket) also sells a some organic foods.<br><b>What do YOU do on rainy days?</b> I personally do not believe that me or my kids will melt in the rain. I will go out and let DS stomp in the mudpuddles or play at the park but DH tends to stay inside. I am sure other people have more ideas.<br><b>How is the public transport or am I going to need a car? (I'm going to need a car with a newborn and a toddler huh?) eep.</b> - The buses and Max train are pretty good around here. There is also "Flex Car." It's like a car co-op. They have cars all around town to use.<br><b>Peds? Who are your peds? Are they super crunchy?</b> - My Ped is not super crunchy but he puts up with my vac. choices. I am not a big doctor person and tend to take DS only when necessary.<br><b>Did any of your move to Portland from out of state with children/babies? Can you tell me how that went?</b> - Nope. I am an OR Native.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/notes2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="notes right-handed">: Also thinking of moving to Portland.
 

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oh wow a native! How do you feel about people coming to live in your beautiful city? Where I'm from, Santa Barbara I am 11th generation born, I would get upset about new people coming here because it meant less housing for those who have been here a long time. It makes me sad that we have to move, but we'll never ever afford a house here. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
I have never been to Wild Oats, and I've very stoked that you all have them there! And Trader Joes! My fave too!<br><br>
I'm with you on the puddle stomping too. my FMIL bought our son this amazing rain coat for his christmas a year ago, and he's barely gotten a chance to wear it. He's also got fireman rainboots which he LOVES. I'm all for letting kids play in the rain.<br><br>
Thanks again for answering!
 

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Where are you from mama_b?<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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We're in Ohio. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Where do you all live and what do you like best about it? we live in NE, but pretty close to being SE. Right on the edge of Hollywood, which I love. There are always people outside either walking or biking or doing yardwork. Everyone's really nice. I can walk to trader joe's and the bank and some other cool shops, the library. We are also getting a little cafe near us and a whole foods soon.<br><br><br>
What does your significant other do for a living? he's a software developer. he works from home.<br><br>
What is min wage there? don't know.<br>
Trader Joes? or other health food type markets? see #1!<br><br>
What do YOU do on rainy days? whatever we were going to do, unless it's reallly really cold, but we are from TX and not used to the cold yet. we have no problem going outside and playing in the rain.<br><br>
How is the public transport or am I going to need a car? (I'm going to need a car with a newborn and a toddler huh?) eep. public transport here is GREAT! where i live i can walk to the train stop, and the bus stop and get pretty much anywhere. i have two small kids, so stuff like groceries if i am not walking i will take my car. mine are kinda high needs and sometimes the train can get a little stressful.<br><br>
Peds? Who are your peds? Are they super crunchy? no ped. we see a DO. i don't know much about her yet, but we saw her dad in TX and he was super crunchy. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
and the last one that didn't get c &p'd. we moved here from TX with our two kiddos-ds was almost two and dd was 4.5 when we moved, in november. um, it was rough. it was a 2200 mile drive...it took four days, i had to learn to install tire chains, i had two dogs, and dp and i got split up. (he was in the moving truck, i was in the car) but it was totally worth it. i love it here. there has been a few people who don't like outsiders, but the majority of people here are really cool. and we have met some great mamas from these boards, too!
 

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<b>Where do you all live and what do you like best about it?</b><br>
I live north of Portland in Vancouver, WA and I like the fact that we don't have confusing things like one-way streets everywhere and there's nowhere near the amount of traffic here. It has the small-town feel but with the big city comforts.<br><br><b>What does your significant other do for a living?</b><br>
He is a supervisor in a call center in Beaverton.<br><br><b>What is min wage there?</b><br>
Washington has the highest minimum wage in the country at $7.63. Oregon's is $7.50.<br><br><b>Trader Joes? or other health food type markets?</b><br>
Oh boy, are there ever. In Vancouver there are 2 Trader Joe's, a farmer's market that runs all year round, Wild Oats and close by in downtown Portland there's at least one Whole Foods market that I know of.<br><br><b>What do YOU do on rainy days?</b><br>
We usually stay inside and paint, color or do arts and crafts. We sometimes go to the library. If we had more money we would probably go to OMSI or the children's museum.<br><br><b>How is the public transport or am I going to need a car?</b><br>
The bus system is awesome both in Vancouver and Portland, and I'm sure others have mentioned the light rail system and the fact that Portland has streetcars.<br><br><b>Peds? Who are your peds? Are they super crunchy?</b><br>
I don't have a pediatrician per se, because my kids only see a doctor if they're so sick I can't handle it at home. We see a family practice and they have never hassled me about not vaxing, they support not circing and they all seem supportive about extended breastfeeding.<br><br>
Portland and Vancouver definitely have their pros and cons. Washington has a philisophical exemption from vaccinations while Oregon does not, however Oregon has much looser midwifery and homeschooling laws.<br><br>
I've lived in Vancouver or Portland pretty much my whole life, and obviously I love it here or I would move. I know you won't regret moving to the Pacific Northwest. There's no place in the US like it. Nothing can describe how beautiful it is. I think you'll really like it here.
 

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Well, pretty much a native. My parents moved back from, MI, when I was 4 yrs old. I lived in San Antonio, TX for a few years. I couldn't stand it, yuck on the weather, no sidewalks, no trees, and brown. My husband is a native of PDX. I love encouraging more crunchy people to move here. We can always use more like minded people here.<br>
Oh, yeah the Libraries in PDX are great.<br>
I am frequently in wonder at the beautiful place we live in even in the rain and clouds. It's even more beautiful when the sun is shining and Mt. Hood and Mt. St. Helens are visible.
 

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<b>Where do you all live and what do you like best about it?</b><br>
i live in beaverton, its right outside of Portland proper, a quick drive into downtown, or a quick MAX ride(thats the lightrail system) i love it here, cause i am close to natural food stores, i am in the suburbs, so not so much noise, not that i mind noise, buts its hard to get kids to take a nap when the neighborhood is alive and kickin. i wish that we could live in one of the great cute neighborhoods, like the alberta arts district, the Hollywood district, the Pearl district, the Hawthorne district, etc, but we need to stay close to beaverton for a while still.<br>
i was raised here, and LOVE oregon, especially the portland and surrounding areas.<br><b>What does your significant other do for a living?</b><br>
he commutes to Willsonville where he works as a collections agent for a major video rental corporation.<br><b>What is min wage there?</b> no clue, its been a long time since i have been in the "working world"<br><b>Trader Joes? or other health food type markets?</b> LOADS> theres new seasons, wild oats, trader joes, whole foods, etc. and like a PP said even Fred Meyers (most people call it Freddies) has a pretty nice organic and health selection. i prefer the New Seasons close to us. really great people work there, they treat Addy like a queen, and its got everything we need.<br><b>What do YOU do on rainy days?</b> we either stay in and snuggle, or we go out and do something. a little rain wont keep us in. but if its stormy and really yucky we will stay inside. but that rarely happens, our rain is a nice cleansing rain here, makes everything so beautiful and green!<br><b>How is the public transport or am I going to need a car? (I'm going to need a car with a newborn and a toddler huh?) eep.</b> i dont drive, and its super easy for me to get around on the public transportation with a young toddler, but that being said i do prefer to catch a ride from my husband, my folks, or a friend. i personally had enough public transportation while living in boston, and try to avoid it here. not that its bad, its a GREAT system, sheck out <a href="http://www.trimet.org" target="_blank">www.trimet.org</a> (i think) thats the nae of our pub trans system Tri-Met.<br><b>Peds? Who are your peds? Are they super crunchy?</b> we have a peds office here in beaverton, but we rarely go. we vaxed til she was a year, then i wisened up and stopped vaxing, and they had no problem with that. she goes in for well baby checks, and if she is SICK, but if its something i can treat at home, we dont go.<br>
my peds Physicians assistant(who we see WAY more of than the actual ped) is cloth diapering his intact son, they co-sleep and breastfeed. so, yeah i would say he is crunchy.<br><br>
i say, we can always use more like minded people here too. but mainstreamers can find another state to live in... :p
 

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Where in Ohio, Mama_b? We moved here from Columbus just 1.5 years ago. It was the toughest and most wonderful thing we have ever done. Financially, we took a big hit to move out here as jobs were hard to come by and the cost of living was higher, epsecially housing (food can actually be cheaper, organic food is cheaper here than organic food there). I will never live in the Midwest or East Coast ever again if I have my way. The Pacific NW is wonderfully different than any other place in this country. My only request is for folks moving here (like I did), do so because you love it, want to be part of it and believe in what is happening here. Please don't move here just because you can find "cheap" housing. I doubt if you are considering a move from Ohio this is the case for you.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Where in Ohio, Mama_b? We moved here from Columbus just 1.5 years ago. It was the toughest and most wonderful thing we have ever done. Financially, we took a big hit to move out here as jobs were hard to come by and the cost of living was higher, epsecially housing (food can actually be cheaper, organic food is cheaper here than organic food there). I will never live in the Midwest or East Coast ever again if I have my way. The Pacific NW is wonderfully different than any other place in this country. My only request is for folks moving here (like I did), do so because you love it, want to be part of it and believe in what is happening here. Please don't move here just because you can find "cheap" housing. I doubt if you are considering a move from Ohio this is the case for you.</div>
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We are in Columbus! We are moving partly because dh has always wanted to live in that part of the country and partly to get away from our crazy families. The more I research the more I want to come. Portland seems to have everything I want: access to places without a car, health food stores, famer's markets, good environment for homeschooling, good environment for homebirthing, beautiful scenery, etc. It is going to be expensive and very difficult for us to move. We have a baby dd who hates the car, so the drive is going to be hell. So where in Columbus did you live? What are the biggest differences you have noticed?
 

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that is a rough drive for a baby. we chose to make the drive, too (as opposed to dp towing the car w the moving truck and us flying...)<br><br>
ds, who was almost two, hated the car, too and i gave him calm forte for kids. it did help him a lot (though we still had to make a lot of stops for the kids to get out and run and the dogs, too...) but the hylands stuff REALLY helped us a lot.
 

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Well we lived in SW Columbus, but only because we could afford more house for less money and the drive was relatively short. We made the neighborhood compromise when we bought our first home. I hated our surroundings, but saw that the neighborhood had enourmous potential, but also knew we would not be around long enough to take advantage of it. I worked at OSU and dh worked up off 270. Had we known more about neighborhoods when buying our first house we would have looked harder for a fixer in Clintonville, where I ended up spending most of my time when I wasn't working (worked part-time after ds1 was born) and going to school (got my M.Ed. at OSU).<br><br>
Portland is a fantasy land in many ways...especially for those of us seeking the things you (and I) were seeking and coming from the mid-West. Public transit is amazing here compared to other places. There is amazing support for things like homeschooling, unschooling, cloth diapering, extended bf, gentle discipline, raising contientious/caring children, eating organically, supporting local businesses, art, holistic medicine, pursuing your passion...I could go on. Now, obviously it is not everyone who lives here who supports these notions, but generally the culture here is one in which these values are at least not out right dismissed as wacko and in many cases and places supported vibrantly. However, it is easy to get sucked in here and forget about the rest of the country and forget that it is not so every where else. I, after just 1.5 years here, find myself constantly shocked by how different life is outside the Pacific Northwest specifically and the West Coast generally. I want to be sure my kids are exposed to the realities outside this corner of our country, but find that calling this place home is a wonderful way to center our energy on promoting and living our values.<br><br>
Portland is like a really big Clintonville in many ways. And if you can imagine a whole city with lots of Clintonvilles, Portland has developed different characteristics within its little odd self. There are many wonderful neighborhoods and honestly, it just takes time to get to know the flavor of each one.<br><br>
As for moving logistics...dh drove both our cars out here with a flight home in between. Yes, he is nuts. He did the drive in 2.5 days each time. Yes, again, he is nuts. I flew out with dh1 who was 23 months old and I was newly pregnant with ds2 (I do not recommend not buying a seat for a 23 month old, not even the most docile child). That was the worst flight of my life for lots of extraneous reasons (twisted ankle on my way down the ramp, not-at-all direct flight, middle of aisle seat with 23 month old on lap, angry old lady in front of me...I could go on). We sent our stuff via ABF freight company. We had to pack it. They drove it. We had to unload it. By far the most economical situation we found and I figured they were reliable (my dad is a truck driver). We were very pleased and I know others with the same results. We got rid of a lot of things before moving (big furniture, etc.) and were able to ship our stuff cross-country for $1500. I am sure it would be more now with the price of gas and all, but that gives you an idea.<br><br>
My dh took a big cut in pay to get a job here, but we are so glad we made the leap. I, especially, am glad we did it before we had 2 kids because I am not sure I could have been convinced after having 2 to make a cross-country move. While our financial means were significantly decreased by our move, we were finally where we wanted to be and where we felt like we fit in, ideologically. I found a wonderful community of mamas (many of them MDCers) who shared our meager means and were perfectly happy to life with less things in order to be in a better place (physically and mentally). I am thrilled we made this decision and glad my dh pushed me to do it.<br><br>
TurboClaudia shared this sentiment with me over a year ago and it sums this place up nicely. Former Mayor Vera Katz said "Portland is more a philosophy than a destination." (I think I got that right, thanks so much for sharing that Claudia)<br><br>
OK, now I have rambled on, but I hope you can get the picture a little clearer from my rantings! Good luck with your decision. If you decide to move, I doubt you will regret it. Will there be moments where you question your decision, absolutely! Will it be easy, not likely. Will it be worth the sacrifice...that's what you need to decide. Goodness gracious I sound like a freakin high school teacher. I gotta hop off this soapbox and do some planning for the classes I am supposed to teach soon (like 20 minutes).<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/blush.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="blush">
 
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