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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">The collection of child support from absent fathers is failing to help many of the poorest families, in part because the government uses fathers’ payments largely to recoup welfare costs rather than passing on the money to mothers and children.<br><br>
Close to half the states pass along none of collected child support to families on welfare, while most others pay only $50 a month to a custodial parent, usually the mother, even though the father may be paying hundreds of dollars each month.</td>
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Absolutely mortifying. I had no idea they used the money to repay their own welfare costs. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Using child support for revenue collection “is penny wise and pound foolish,” she added.</td>
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Pretty much sums it up, across the board when it comes to federal spending.
 

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When I was forced to go on welfare after my ex drained my bank accounts (don't get me started on that..<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> they told me that they would take any and all child support he paid. Of course he was a deadbeat so he didn't pay any, but boy does that bother me that they use it to recoup welfare costs.
 

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I thought child support was supposed to be for the upkeep of a <span style="text-decoration:underline;">child</span>, not to pay the mother's debts, to the government or anywhere else.
 

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Ah, good memories. Not that any money has ever been seen from that person, but it always rubbed me the wrong way that the guv would be payed back first.
 

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Some moms reject the cash assistance and only take food stamps so that they can receive their entire allotment of Child Support, which is often larger than Welfare's cash allotment.
 

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WHAAAAA????? I had no idea this was happening. This makes me sick. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">:
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I thought child support was supposed to be for the upkeep of a <span style="text-decoration:underline;">child</span>, not to pay the mother's debts, to the government or anywhere else.</div>
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if you get child support, you cant get anything but foodstamps and medicaid cause they take the child support in place of it.<br>
like you can get 400 in cs, but try to get on TANF for example, and theyll give you like 60...while taking your 400 <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:<br>
(totally off the wall figures, but i know someone who gets 380 something when it comes and was told shed get 62.00 so i was going by that..)<br><br>
i am almost 21, and my mom still hasnt received i think 29 checks, it might be more, but im not positive, the last time i asked it was that many when i was 15, and it isnt anything to do with my dad. after he refused to pay, by the time i was 6, it was auto taken out of his check. he had a steady check since then working at the same place since i was a baby, so it went in the states lala land funds. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/hopmad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hopping mad"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/Cuss.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="cuss">
 

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This welfare and $50 thing has been going on for years and years and it's just now getting media? When my first Stepfather divorced my Mother, he was paying alot of child support. But my Mother became handicapped but didn't yet qualify for SSI, so she had to go on Welfare. He was paying roughly $400 a month, but she was only getting $50 a month for it. And he was no "deatbeat Dad".
 

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This is just one big mess! I cannot believe this! More reason for dead beat dads to not pay. Why pay if it is not for the child? They barely pay for the child. Oh my stars!!!
 

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This is a huge, and I mean HUGE reason why we do not have traditional child support set up for DSS. Besides the fact that the state takes it, so it doesn't go to your child, the non-custodial parent is not allowed to claim the child as a dependent on his/her taxes. This sort of makes sense until you realize that someone on gov't assistance typically either isn't paying any, or is paying very, very minimal taxes. So the gov't gets to make their $ twice.<br><br>
To DSS's mom's eternal credit, she always realized this. We put $ in a bank account for DSS every month, and if she needs anything, she asks and we give. We carry his medical insurance through DH's new work now, so that has helped a ton. It's ridiculous that we have to "hide" this arrangment from the state.<br><br>
Before I met DH, I discovered something similar with my cousin. She was under 21, working full time, going to school, and living in the projects with her two young children. No one could figure out why she didn't take her ex to court for child support, and our family members were kind of giving her a hard time about it. She explained the situation to me, and said, "If Tony was paying $400 per month child support, I'd get $50 per month. Tony gives me $50 out of every paycheck, I get $100 per month, and he saves $300 per month. It works out in everyone's favor."
 

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i'm shocked this is just NOW getting media attention.<br><br>
the one 3 month period we needed cash assistance when DH lost his job, we got this letter saying they were taking the child support to "pay back" what they were giving us in cash assistance. I thought that was pretty crappy. Not that it really mattered in our case, the average child support payment i get is $41 <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">More reason for dead beat dads to not pay. Why pay if it is not for the child? They barely pay for the child. Oh my stars!!!</div>
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And more reason for responsible Dads to get frustrated when paying- who'd want to give up a couple hundred dollars a month to cupport your child when the child would only get $50? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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What a wonderful system, eh? I get $0 for ds, i recieve a leger every 3 -4 months showing how much $ his bio-dad has paid to the state for the medicaid I had when I was pregnant with him. My ds is 16 yo!! So, bio-dad has been paying for 16 years and still still get $0!!!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">What a wonderful system, eh? I get $0 for ds, i recieve a leger every 3 -4 months showing how much $ his bio-dad has paid to the state for the medicaid I had when I was pregnant with him. My ds is 16 yo!! So, bio-dad has been paying for 16 years and still still get $0!!!</div>
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hey, my mom got a bill about 2 years ago from my birth from the state....and she didnt have medicaid. i havent filed for my kids, i know i wouldnt get much out of their dad, or for a prolonged period, and a lot of other stories, but having both of my kids on it, theyre not SUPPOSED to take it but i dont trust it!
 

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I have always known of this. I helped a single mother years ago with her DD. She never saw any $ from her ex-husband who had remarried and started another family.
 

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This has happened to my dss's mother. Since dss was born dh just gave her money every week. She applied for some education program and now dh has to pay into the state and she doesn't get any of it.<br><br>
Another messed up thing afa child support enforcement - if you are owed child support but do not use any form of welfare your case goes to the bottom of the pile. My bio father owed my mother over $65,000 for my sister and I - at one point the most owed in the state - but they declined to pursue him, placing priority on mothers receiving assistance. Our case worker actually told my mother that as along as she had a decent job (actually she had several <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> she wasn't going to get any help.
 

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Ok, let me get this straight. People pay taxes, a part of which goes into the welfare system. Daddy pays $400 in child support to the state. Mom gets welfare because she's broke and should be getting $350 from the program. Welfare takes daddy's whole payment, and give Mom $50 because the rest of money is going to be used a repayment for a service that she is entitled to get because of her need and the state's citizens are already paying for in taxes?<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:<br><br><i>Don't steal. The government doesn't like competition.</i>
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;"><i>Don't steal. The government doesn't like competition.</i></div>
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So true. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 
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