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I just wanted to share a paragraph from Sheila Kitzinger's <span style="text-decoration:underline;">The Complete Book of Pregnancy & Childbirth</span>. It's the last paragraph on the Expecting Twins chapter, under "Your Babies, Your Body". I'm thinking I remember reading somewhere that she UC'd her twins? Anyway, this has been my "mantra"<br><br>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Bear in mind that a multiple pregnancy may increase your blood pressure, cause aches and pains and varicose veins, and put stress on your pelvis, <i>simply</i> because there are two or more babies bouncing around in there and being <i>nurtured</i> by your body. Yet there is no reason that the whole experience of pregnancy should be medicalized. <i>It can be an exciting and happy experience in which you are in charge</i>. Examine the evidence, weigh the advice the professionals give you and come to <i>your own decisions</i> about the birth.</td>
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This is what I have explained to the few who care to ask about my birth plans. I only mention UC to the ones who won't freak BTW.<br><br>
While I'm at it, here's a brief(?) intro/explanation for our decision to UC.<br><br>
I had come to the decision that I would have a UC for my next birth before this pregnancy. Once pregnant, decided to do a UP other than one or two appointments to document pregnancy. (Some strange requirements for birth certificates for foreigners here). So I was happy doing my own UP until at 10 weeks, I began dreaming and suspecting twins. By 12 weeks I was sure that's what it was and went in to see my OB. He's the only pro-natural OB in the whole place and I had my first birth (squatting on the floor in the L&D birth suite) with him. Did a quick U/S and sure enough it's twins. One of the first things he tells me is that I'm now highrisk, must do multiple U/S to assess growth, and that I'd better make it to the hospital this time. (Didn't tell him DS's birth was with a midwife.... he thinks OOPS). Babies have their own placentas and sacs. He's pretty sure they're fraternal by placental markers.<br><br>
I asked him lots of questions about his experience with twins. He has years of experience, including breech birth. Then goes on to tell me that C/S is safest for twins, even if just the 2nd is breech. Huh? I asked about ACOG's statement said they retracted that and made C/S and vaginal equal risk for breech. Oh no, not true he says. So he disregards ACOG for me and shoves it down others throats... basically he picks and chooses what he wants to support to get his way? I know this from other doulas that work at this hospital.<br><br>
So I leave the appointment in<br>
A) shock - yes I "knew" it was twins, but really "knowing" for real is still a shock.<br>
B) anger - all that BS that I knew was BS... good grief, I'm a doula<br><br>
I go home and immediately make an international phone call to my midwife in Australia. No longer available after DS's birth, retired, and moved back home. For a CNM, she is so so pro homebirth. She'd lived in Thailand and Korea for years offering homebirth. She calmed me down, we talked about my options, and I got the best piece of advice from her: "Don't consent to a test unless you can do something with the results."<br><br>
I went back for an appointment at 20 weeks. The OB flipped through my chart but said nothing when he noticed he couldn't find notes from a 16wk appointment I'd cancelled. I took my DH with me and we had a list of questions. The first question basically was the decision maker for us. The OB said that he was only comfortable doing a vaginal birth of twins if BOTH babies are vertex. Um, that's like 40% or less. AND for that, I'd stay home. Breech is a no way for him. (I find out later from our great pediatrician that he's scared of litigation now too.) We did do an U/S (sorry, I had to know genders while he was at it) because I wanted to make sure the basics (heart, lungs, etc) were OK so I'd know to risk myself out of homebirth or not. OB then said to schedule future appointments for afternoon so he'd have more time for U/S.<br><br><b>I am so thankful for a DH who understands birth, the research, what I'm learning, and trusts my instincts and supports my desires.</b> We sat down that night, discussed how great it has been doing my own UP. DH said, "let's go for it. Let's just continue this and go on and have a UC." <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/broc1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Broccoli">: We have come up with a list of things, such as no UC before 36 weeks, no C/S unless Baby A is transverse, have a local OB that I could transfer to in emergency, go get my iron checked at a clinic at 28 weeks. So, that's it. Here we go.<br><br>
I just felt like sharing today for some reason. If you've read this far, thank you!!
 

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Your story is very inspirational! I hope you continue on to have a great pregnancy, and a wonderful (twin!) birth! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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Good for you mama! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/carrot.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="carrot"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/banana.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="banana">
 

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BABIES!!! WOOO!!<br><br>
Good on you. I was wishing for twins in the beginning of my pregnancy, and now I'm wondering if I would have the guts to UC if I was having twins. I think it is still a right decision, but somehow with twins everyone becomes more nervous, and the already difficult tension become even stronger and harder to deal with. Like you need that when you've got two little ones inside you! Good luck, and happy birth, and I'm sure they will be beautiful!!<br><br>
PS; What genders? You said you checked with the ultrasound.
 

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This was posted on the July ddc thought you might find it really inspiring!<br><a href="http://www.archive.org/details/Homebirth" target="_blank">http://www.archive.org/details/Homebirth</a> Psalm & Zoya's Birth<br><br>
Congratulations on twins!
 

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I love the Psalm and Zoya birth story! I've been consuming twinbirth (UC if possible) stories as much as possible.<br><br>
We're having 2 girls <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> So even though they're supposedly fraternal, we may still get DNA testing if they don't look completely different.<br><br>
Not sure why I posted so much. It started out just wanting to share the paragraph. Then I realized I post here quite a bit but never shared what got us this far.<br><br>
Thanks for the kind words!<br><br>
(maitobamama, your twin girls are adorable. I'm assuming ID?)
 

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That's such an awesome quote. Thank you for sharing it!<br><br>
Oh, and the piece of advice that you got from your former midwife ("Don't consent to a test unless you can do something with the results."), I LOVE IT! So true!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I love the Psalm and Zoya birth story! I've been consuming twinbirth (UC if possible) stories as much as possible.<br><br>
We're having 2 girls <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> So even though they're supposedly fraternal, we may still get DNA testing if they don't look completely different.<br><br>
Not sure why I posted so much. It started out just wanting to share the paragraph. Then I realized I post here quite a bit but never shared what got us this far.<br><br>
Thanks for the kind words!<br><br>
(maitobamama, your twin girls are adorable. I'm assuming ID?)</div>
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MamaRabbit,<br>
Thank you, they are my bonus dd's they came into my life when I met my dh when they were 2 years old! They are faternal but their bm gets vary upset when they have different haircuts (although we have had them cut differently and they love it) and if they are dressed differently (but that is a whole different thread!).<br>
We strive for them to be individuals and they get very upset when people ask which one are you? So we always have them dressed differently and try to have them look as individual as possible. I have lots of twins in my family so twin are very near and dear to my heart!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">That's such an awesome quote. Thank you for sharing it!<br><br>
Oh, and the piece of advice that you got from your former midwife ("Don't consent to a test unless you can do something with the results."), I LOVE IT! So true!</div>
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I love this advice also! So very very true! I now think this way for everything!
 

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That is great advice.When you are dealing with the medicos it can be hard to not get caught up in the "potential disaster" mode.Keeping this mantra in mind and your MW's words will help you and others ( me).<br>
When I was pregnant with my second I had the halfway U/S done and while I was there I went ahead and got the AFP test without really thinking about it.The next day I got a call saying that there was a high chance my baby had trisomy 18 and I needed to come back.My neighbor and I were freaked out and looked up all we could,I sent DH an email since he was deployed.I kept thinking well he was perfect on the U/S.I went in and got a level II U/S and he still looked perfect.They told me to gete an amnio to rule it out completly but I turned it down because there are more dangers than good from that IMO.It wasn't like anything could have been done either before the birth or after with this diagnosis anyway and I was already 19 weeks.I got pressured alot to get it done, they even tried to bring my religion into it but I knew it wouldn't change things.Evan is still perfect even in his 2's.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br>
I have now learned not every test is useful FOR me and I don't need to do every one.<br><br>
Congrats on your twins and I look forward to seeing your birth story!
 

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MamaRabbit,<br><br>
Thanks for sharing the quote. I'd read it before but it was good to see it again, and also great to hear you share your experience. You're an inspiration! Good luck with your pregnancy and birth!<br><br>
Our twins are due in early June and we've finally found a solution to avoid an intervention-laden hospital birth. While we're not planning to UC (DH is not comfortable doing it for twins) we are discussing whether the new midwife will join us at home or whether we'll use the birth center.
 
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