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hi all, i've been searching the archives in the vax thread for the past hour, and now i'm here looking for some advice. i think i recently had pertussis. i was diagnosed with bronchitis, asthma, and a severe sinus infection. i've never actually had bronchitis or a sinus infection or asthmas in my life, so i was really surprised by this diagnosis. i'm 36 & fully vaxed. i was given antibiotics, an inhaler, and cough syrup with codiene... but nothing really worked & my cough lasted for months. literally.<br><br>
i'm finally better, but my sweet dd started coughing on tuesday night. it started very low key, but by tonight she sounds awful and it's turning into a croup barky sound. my son has also started coughing. i've been researching online, and i'm really concerned that it could be pertussis, as i think that's what i had and was misdiagnosed. my children aren't vaxed, and i've got to be honest...i'm wondering if i'm an idiot now. can you all please give me advice. what symptoms should i be watching for? how can i be caring for them? i read i could give them SA, but what dosage for a 6 year old and 3 year old??? thanks mamas. sorry if i sound stressed....but i kinda am<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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I haven't done the pertussis thing yet, but I know I will someday, and I think I'm likely to be going through it with them. One thought: it sounds like you should've been contagious a long time ago... why do you think the time lag happened?<br><br>
Either way, sounds like they're sick now. SA needs to be to bowel tolerance, and for my kids, I found it was very individual (and far higher than the typical recommended amounts in other threads). I'd start with something like 1g at a time--I don't remember if there's a specific frequency for giving SA with pertussis, if not, I'd go with 4x/day. If 1g is fine (no diarrhea after the 2nd dose is my guideline), I'd bump it up to 2g at a time, and keep going up til I got to diarrhea.<br><br>
Anyway, I wanted to write back tonight since you sound stressed. Someone with real experience or more recent reading will hopefully chime in soon and have more and better tidbits to share. But take care--you'll get through this, and so will they.
 

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This site has recordings of children and adults coughing (with and without whooping cough): <a href="http://www.whoopingcough.net/symptoms.htm" target="_blank">http://www.whoopingcough.net/symptoms.htm</a><br><br>
As far as symptoms go, you'll hear it. If you're not sure now, I think you will be (one way or the other) after you listen to the recordings.<br><br>
There are homeopathic, anthroposophic and herbal remedies for whooping cough. Allopathic treatment is antibiotics regardless of how long the child has been coughing/when exposed/etc. I know a family of four, in which one adult and two children were whooping (actually the mom didn't whoop, which is common in adults I hear), and they gave the whole family antibiotics. Public Health said it would help prevent spreading the disease and possibly shorten the course of it. Of the four, the two adults had been vaxed, the two children had not. That family took the antibiotics, but (anecdotal here) they didn't get better any faster than other families I knew who also had it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"><br><br>
I would say, in general, wc or otherwise, keep your kids home, well-rested, warm and hydrated. Run a vaporizer or do a steam inhalation under a tent with eucalyptus. This will not cure the cough, but might make them more comfortable.<br><br>
If you don't do the antibiotics, I think treatment is mostly about keeping them comfortable and supporting their immune systems. An echinacea infusion would be good, imho.
 

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I searched "whooping cough treatment" on this forum, and came up with a number of threads. This one looks promising:<br><br><br><a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=577493&highlight=whooping+cough+treatment" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...ough+treatment</a>
 

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<a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showpost.php?p=7116703&postcount=2" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...03&postcount=2</a><br><br>
Pertussis first hand experience thread -<br><a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=577493" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=577493</a><br><br>
Pertussis more information -<br><a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=773601" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=773601</a><br><br>
After age 6 mo. a child is out of the danger zone. By 1 yr. they are well able to handle it. The worst thing to do is give abx. The best is to give large dose of SA spread out throughout the day which is also very good for coughing in general and support the child when coughing.<br><br>
Your children may not have the whoop sounds because they are old enough where the trachea is large enough for the air to come back through without creating that sound. The cough is sporadic and after a coughing episode the child is fine. There is nor reason to interrupt playing or anything else.<br><br>
You may want to avoid getting together with other kids right now. Not because your kids are the only ones carrying the bacteria (many people do) but because they will blame your unvaccinated kids if their kids come down with it.<br><br>
I don't understand why you are questioning your vaccine stance now? After all you had wc and you stated you are fully vaccinated. So, would all those chemicals in their bodies plus having the disease be any better?<br><br>
OK. going back to the disease: wc is worst at night. There are more coughing episodes at night but the child will fall right back asleep after each episode.<br><br>
It is known as the 100 day cough. With regular SA you can see a big improvement in about 3 weeks. The coughing won't get milder, but there will be fewer episodes. The coughing will be pretty much the same in severity all along, it will just want in frequency.<br><br>
There is nothing to fear. The worst thing is to suppress the cough. Then there is a chance of secondary infection. The infection comes if the child is not coughing hard enough and the fluid that pools together in the lungs is not brought up. That is why there is a little spittle coming up after most coughing spells, that needs to come out.<br><br>
I would avoid all sugary foods, all fast foods, all junk foods. Other than the SA, there is not much you can do and any interference is contraindicated.
 

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thank you all so much! this advice is wonderful and i really appreciate it. when i posted i was freaking out a little....lol....or a lot........i'm not sure if they even have the whooping cough. it may just be a cold (i really don't know). i'm taking my dd to the dr. tomorrow morning, just to make sure all is well....and i'll take my son in too if needed (he's not coughing like my dd - so i was waiting on him to avoid a double deductible). i guess i was thinking worst case scenarios<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/innocent.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shy">. gitti, i don't know why i questioned my stance on non vax. i guess i was just freaking out seeing my kids sick and just wondering if i could have prevented it. that's pretty dumb i suppose, seeing that vaxed kids get pertussis too, plus my dd has only been sick a few times in her life and her immune system is amazing! i openly admit i worry too much and over analyze things...i'm much better today though. thank you so again for your help!!!! genuinely!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">gitti, i don't know why i questioned my stance on non vax. i guess i was just freaking out seeing my kids sick and just wondering if i could have prevented it. that's pretty dumb i suppose, seeing that vaxed kids get pertussis too, plus my dd has only been sick a few times in her life and her immune system is amazing! i openly admit i worry too much and over analyze things...i'm much better today though. thank you so again for your help!!!! genuinely!</div>
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You'll get more confidence as the kids get older and you witness how resilient kids really are. If we were fragile, we wouldn't have survived this long.<br><br>
The doc can not tell whether it's wc and most likely won't do a test. It's not that easy. I can't remember - I think it's a nose swab? I hope he doesn't suggest abx. Good luck.
 
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