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I really like the concept of only using a convertible car seat so that I actually HAVE to take baby out and use sling for groceries and errands and the likes. I do feel bad for babys who live in the infant car seat and are moved from car to store to car to home all without being taken out once- HOWEVER I know those times when baby is asleep and you just arrive home and to take him out of the seat will wake him and ohhhhh a blessed hour of sleep/time to yourself.<br><br>
Basically I know that if I use an infant seat then I'll tend to keep baby in the seat and not the sling. Picture all those quick stops (run inside for a cup of coffee while pumping gas)- an infant seat would be nice.<br>
So I feel like using a convertible would challenge me to be a better mom, but I don't know if it's worth it.<br><br>
Plus I already have both of those car seats from my first two kids so I can play around with the idea or switch back and forth but am just trying to picture the logistics of life with three kids!<br><br>
Anyone out there using just a convertible?
 

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we are also having our third and I debated this issue as well. Our infant seat expired and I didn't want to buy a new one but I did decide to borrow my brother's kids seat. I like the idea of having the flexibility of using the infant seat just for those situations you describe. And I found when I had #2 that I took her out much more often to put in a sling because I wanted to be able to hold DD#1's hand in parking lots. Having both hands free was my main driver.<br><br>
I think you can make a conscious effort to take the baby out of the infant seat for any errand lasting more than 5 minutes. I also Liked having the seat when we ate out, the joys of eating a meal hands free <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy"><br><br>
I look at it as any other baby holding thing like a bouncy seat or exersaucer, they are fine in moderation and can be very helpful for getting tasks accomplished as long as you are careful to not overuse.<br><br>
Also make sure that if you do go with a convertible that a newborn can fit many seats on the market say they are rated for 5lbs+ but in actuality the strap height is much much to high for any newborn to fit safely.
 

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The one thing I will say is that we had a Britax infant seat, and that thing was freaking HEAVY! I hated having to lug it around, and would only do so if LO was sleeping soundly. Otherwise, it truly was easier to get him out and carry him.
 

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I like the bucket seat for quick errands. Also, I never could really push a shopping cart with a sling on, the baby kept bumping into the cart and my arms had to be stretched way out weirdly. I never really cared for that or got the hang of it. In general if Ds was sleeping I left him in the seat, if he was awake I took him out. If it was winter and cold I left him in. I think it came in very handy and I didn't consider myself a worse mother for using it. When I see people rocking their crying baby in the carseat, or holding their wide awake baby in a carseat instead of taking it out, that is what really gets to me. If Ds was crying I took him out. If he was awake and we were just standing around (like waiting for a table at a restaurant) I took him out. It just seemed obvious because we liked holding him, so whenever I could I did and I expect I'll do the same this time.
 

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I hated the bucket with DS and he was a winter baby. It was too heavy for me to carry and he woke up as soon as the car stopped moving anyway so he wouldn't stay in the seat even for short errands without crying.<br><br>
This time around I'm putting the bucket in DH's car since he's more likely to use it (carry it) and I got a covertible for my car.
 

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I used an infant seat for the first 3-4 mos. with each of my boys, but it expired and I am just going to go straight to a convertible this time. Especially with a summer baby, I don't think there'll be any need for it. I'd rather her get used to being put in and out of the car than have to start when she's 3-4 mos. old. Hopefully I will be motivated to walk/ride the bus some, too.<br>
I never really used the infant seat as a carrier other than to carry them in/out of the house covered up in winter, and that's not an issue this time. I also have a bad back and carrying one of those things is probably a bad idea!
 

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I debated this too. Then I realized that in my fairly small car a convertible seat won't likely fit rear-facing at the proper infant recline. I hope one will fit RF at the regular angle when the time comes, but I figure this at least postpones me having to buy a new car, and may postpone it for a long time! Baby bucket fits just fine.
 

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I used infant seats with my first three kids, though they grew out of them by 4-6 months old. With my last I had the same feeling, that I didn't want to lug him around in the carseat, so I bought a big Britax convertible seat (to 60 lbs). I loved it. He sat more upright and higher so could see his siblings from his captain seat in our van. It seems more comfortable. And it wasn't a pain at all to take him out and put him in the sling, ergo, or a stroller as he usually did stay asleep. I enjoyed more time to hold him, smell him, and I'll bet he did too.<br><br>
This around...Bjorn is still in that carseat (at only 36 pounds) so it's his. A friend gave me her infant seat and I'm torn if I want to use it or purchase another big seat and just use that (since I'll have to anyway after a few months). I don't have $200+ to shell out for that right now though. Maybe my friends will get one for me!!
 

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I dont think that one way or the other makes you a better MOm<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"> as long as baby is safe and happy.<br><br>
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with DS I always left him in the infant seat if he was sleeping to run errands and to DDS dance class etc..<br>
If he was awake when we woukld pull up to the location that I felt the sling/carrier was more appropriate and that it wasnt "disturbing him" to move a sleeping baby.. so you can use an infant seat and still use the sling often<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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not from this DDC but we had to get a infant seat due to the marathon we already had being to big. That said I just kept the infant seat in the car
 

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One, I don't think using a baby bucket (and leaving your happy infant in one) makes anyone a bad mother or father. Those buckets fit nicely in a stroller system and tend to keep the baby happy. My first baby hated being worn except in the bjorn, which as you no doubt know is strongly disliked in the babywearing community due to its configuration. Making my baby cry and then having to carry her, fussy and refusing the wrap, while awkwardly pushing a cart with one hand makes no sense to me. You have to do what's right for you and your individual baby. You can also interact well with a baby in a bucket. The baby is facing you and if awake, you can talk, play with toys, touch, etc. I just don't think baby buckets are the tragedy some people make them out to be.<br><br>
Second, I don't think convertible seats, like a Britax Boulevard, for example, are practical or safe for newborns. They say "8 lbs and up" but the babies do not fit well in them, and they're too vertical (angle) to help keep the baby's head at a reasonable angle (not too far to the side, not falling forward, etc. You want to avoid a compressed airway, and while I wouldn't say a convertible seat is unsafe, I don't think it's the best seat for an infant.<br><br>
I think that if you find wearing is better for your baby than being in the bucket for errands, you'll wear. I also don't think that a loved, nurtured, AP'd baby is going to be really lacking anything if mom or dad runs errands with baby in the bucket. Usually the baby will be asleep and observable in the bucket, or awake and you can interact.<br><br>
I think babies are far more at risk of being ignored when their parents aren't tuned into them and don't put in the effort/feel the instinct to really interact. There is nothing inherently bad or sad about using a bucket infant seat, IMO. Parenting well is way, way beyond that and parents with buckets will do a great, AP job (or not) - based not on whether they have a bucket, but on what kind of parents they are.<br><br>
GL! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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DDCC, but just wanted to say I had the *exact* same thoughts as you, OP. Turns out the decison was made by my DS. We had bought a convertible, with the same thoughts as you, but graciously accepted a *pink* hand me down bucket that we thought we'd never use.<br><br>
DS was far, far to small to go in the true fit (the ride home from the hospital was scary!), and now at 7 months refuses to sit in it. He hated getting in and out of the seat, so for short trips, it truly was me being a better mom leaving him in it.<br><br>
that being said, I was unable to lift the bucket for months, and months and months after birth. For a while I only ran errands with the baby with DH or someone else, OR I had to take the baby out of the seat.<br><br>
As an aside -- I also think having a bucket really reduces the temptation to just leave the baby in teh car while you pay for gas ect. I live in texas, where a few children die each summer from being left.
 

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I meant that lightly -of course - <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"> and probably should mention I don't think people who uses a infant seat are bad moms/dads and I used the seat a lot with my first two. But I do think it's nicer for babe to be wore then carried at the thigh and the challenge would be to spend the extra time to take baby out and in sling
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I debated this too. Then I realized that in my fairly small car a convertible seat won't likely fit rear-facing at the proper infant recline. I hope one will fit RF at the regular angle when the time comes, but I figure this at least postpones me having to buy a new car, and may postpone it for a long time! Baby bucket fits just fine.</div>
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We have a small backseat and DH is 6'3" so the seat has to be as far back as possible so most convertibles wont fit. Except the First Years TrueFit. The upper part of the back comes off until babe weighs 22lbs and can sit more up-right (but still RF). In that way, it's no bigger then a Graco SnugRide bucket seat. Granted the Premier model is $240ish but it goes up to 65lbs in a 5-point (35lbs RF) and has an anti-rebound bar for RF install.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Second, I don't think convertible seats, like a Britax Boulevard, for example, are practical or safe for newborns. They say "8 lbs and up" but the babies do not fit well in them, and they're too vertical (angle) to help keep the baby's head at a reasonable angle (not too far to the side, not falling forward, etc. You want to avoid a compressed airway, and while I wouldn't say a convertible seat is unsafe, I don't think it's the best seat for an infant.</div>
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The Britax convertibles are not practical or safe for most newborns, but many convertibles are (like the Radian, TrueFit, and MyRide). Convertibles should be installed at a 45º angle for a newborn and they have an indicator to help you get it right. And of course, there are carseat techs to help with installation if needed. I think all the seats listed come with an infant insert.<br>
Personally my newbie is going to be in a RFing Radian from birth, my second child has had one for 3 years (RFing to the limit and now FFing) and I want to be able to RF to 45 lbs. If I had more room in my vehicle or lower-weight children I might go with a MyRide or TrueFit.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I debated this too. Then I realized that in my fairly small car a convertible seat won't likely fit rear-facing at the proper infant recline. I hope one will fit RF at the regular angle when the time comes, but I figure this at least postpones me having to buy a new car, and may postpone it for a long time! Baby bucket fits just fine.</div>
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Yep, this was the tie breaker for us too, once we realized we couldn't get a new car right now. I also don't want to carry the thing (bad back), but I figure DP can carry when he wants and I'll just use the sling. We only have 1 car, so that doesn't even enter into the equation.
 

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This first part is my opinion so take it with a grain of salt if you want, but a car seat is a CAR seat. It's not a grocery shopping seat, or a nap seat, or anything else... it's to keep your baby safe while you drive in the car. I understand the convenience of being able to snap it in and out of the car and take it inside wherever you are going. I actually did it a few times with DS#1. That said, if this is what you choose to do, I don't think it makes you a bad parent.<br><br>
As far as the concern about taking baby out and waking him/her up, I found that when I did take DS out of his car seat and put him in a sling or wrap, he would generally go back to sleep within 5 minutes of being snuggled close to me in the carrier. I've heard from others though, that their babies had a hard time getting back to sleep once woken, so this might've just been one way I got lucky. Hope this 2nd little guy is the same!<br><br>
We no longer have DS#1's infant seat, so we are buying a convertible. A First Years True Fit.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Personally my newbie is going to be in a RFing Radian from birth</div>
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Me too. Might get a TrueFit instead, or possibly a MyRide, but heavily leaning towards the Radian.
 

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Originally our plan was to get the sunshine kids radian from birth. We never took the bucket seat out of the car with dd1; we were devoted baby wearers and had a 2 door car...which made it awful to clip the seat in and out. We also had dd in the spring...so it was warm enough to put her in the sling. And dd outgrew the bucket seat by 5 months in both weight and height.<br><br>
But, I've decided to start out with bucket seat this time and just bought a maxi-cosi yesterday. My reasons are<br>
1) I have a 25 month old and I think that sleep will be a precious commodity for the new babe. Getting babe in and out of the car seat/sling when she's asleep might just be what the breaking point is if she wakes up everytime and is cranky for disrupted sleep all the time.<br>
2) she'll still be quite little, and fit in the bucket seat for at least part of the winter, so it will be good to be able to get her seat into the house to warm it up first and also to keep her in it while we unload her from the car into the house or wherever we're going so she doesn't get a chill.<br>
3) Dd1 will be 2 years and 3 months when babe is born. But I will still only have 2 hands! Although I plan to babywear as much as possible, realistically, it will be simpler to keep baby in a bucket seat on occasion just so I can bend and pick up a fitful toddler while having my hands full of groceries etc...<br>
4) I don't trust the convertible car seats for newborns even if they are designed for 5+pounds.<br><br>
That said, I can't stand all these gizmos meant to hold babies for us. Babies are meant to be held! So yes, I'll have a bucket seat, but I also have a handfull of slings that I have every intention of using.<br><br>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Personally my newbie is going to be in a RFing Radian from birth</div>
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Mine too. I hated the bucket seat and my son never stayed asleep in it anyway. Every baby is different of course but I'm not counting on it working that way since it didn't the first time. Plus, I drive a Korean passenger van that only has a sliding door on one side. We've figured that the only way we can get two in car seats (one FF and one RF) is to put the baby on the far outside and my toddler in the middle. The closer outside seat is a jump seat so I don't want to put a car seat on it. SO, I'll have to reach over my toddler to get the baby in and there's no way around it. A bucket seat would be a super pain in the butt and I am really the 'car seat belongs in the car' type anyway, so there you have it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 
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