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My first rant....thoughtless comments!

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I had a friend of mine over yesterday, and a friend of hers came as well. We all have two kids - theirs are 6 months older than mine - the kids and the babies.

The past few days, my 7 month old daughter has been really fussy. I don't know what it is. The only thing that seems to make her comfortable is being held all the time. I sling her a lot anyway, but now that she can crawl and play, it is nice to be able to put her down for a few minutes. She won't stand for it, so I pick her up. My son was a little like this as a baby, but never to this degree.

My friend's friend said to me, "Well, if your son was like this too, and they are not genetically related (DD was adopted), it must be something you are doing."
I hardly know this person. She doesn't know me, my daughter's history, nothing.

When your kid is really fussy and you can't figure out why, you don't need to hear things like this. Ugh. So yes, this is a shameless cry for pity and support on my part. My first rant. I thought with my mom no longer talking to me, I wasn't going to hear things like this anymore.

And yes, she has been fussy all day again today.

L.
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s to you Leatherette!!!

It is truly amazing what people think is okay to say...really the nerve of that woman.

I know that my dd did that too. Still does in fact and she is 31 months. I think it is related to developmental milestones. When a step is taken away from the mom in terms of development the child may actually want to be closer to the mom during that time.

What a stupid woman.
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s to you Leatherette!!!

It is truly amazing what people think is okay to say...really the nerve of that woman.

I know that my dd did that too. Still does in fact and she is 31 months. I think it is related to developmental milestones. When a step is taken away from the mom in terms of development the child may actually want to be closer to the mom during that time.

What a stupid woman.
HUGS!!

I totally agree with this. It seems that my DS was always fussy during milestones. I always thought it would never get better but lo and behold it always did. Hang in there Honey!
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My sister and her husband used to make comments all the time about the way we were raising our son. He was high need...cranky around strangers and always wanted to be held.

They had the easy always-smiling baby.

Flash forward two years. Our son is almost always smiling. Yes, he still wants to be held a lot. But he loves people...is outgoing, happy, enthusiastic, etc.

Their daughter is super sensitive now...and fearful.

Sorry, your friend said such an awful thing to you. She's dumb.

Dina
Oh Leatherette!
to you!

So, was this person actually trying to insinuate that by following cues, and therefore picking up your dear fussy daughter, that you were somehow causing the behavior itself? ACK! DOUBLE ACK! *sigh*

Most every baby goes through fussy times. The only thing anyone is "doing" to create the situation is your DD herself... she's growing up! My lasting memory of babyhood with DS is of a very happy and content baby. However, there were definitely several (if not many) times he went through fussy/clingy periods, usually related to developmental milestones, growth spurts or teething. Also, his separation anxiety reached a peak between 7 and 10 months. I, in turn comforted and held him at every opportunity, whenever and for as long as he needed. Period. Mountain Mom's explanation of the babe's point of view is right on. Milestones are big things. Babes need comfort during them. If they get what they need when they need it, they won't be spending their entire existence trying to get it... they can be freed up to actually enjoy the freedom of self-security and comfort within one's own skin once they are ready to do so.

I'm sorry this woman made such a thoughtless comment to you, and I hope you see fit to put it out of your mind.
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to you.

I've had my load of crappy comments too. I won't add anything because I feel hurt today, and adding my grief to yours won't help,
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Thanks everyone.
I felt weak letting her comment get to me, but a sad baby weakens me, what can I say?

L.
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Leatherette-
It never ceases to amaze me how absolutely thoughtless and rude people can be. Unbelieveable...
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Originally Posted by Leatherette
My friend's friend said to me, "Well, if your son was like this too, and they are not genetically related (DD was adopted), it must be something you are doing."
I hardly know this person. She doesn't know me, my daughter's history, nothing.
This is a classic example of how "a little knowlege is a dangerous thing".

While it is true, that *similarities* between genetically related sibs are greater than *similarities* between non-genetically related sibs....this does not mean that all DIFFERENCES are due to "environment". In fact, there is just as much variation WITHIN a set of genetically-related individuals as there is outside that set.

The book "The Nurture Assumption" by Judith Rich Harris describes this in great detail as one of the gross misunderstandings the public (and many social scientists) carry around with respect to what, exactly, genetics can account for.

I'm sure that girl thought she was being helpful, in a "scientific" sort of way...but she was just wrong on both counts (not helpful, not scientific)!
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Leatherette,

I beg to differ... in feeling empathy for your sad DD, and responding to her needs immediately, you are anything BUT weak.


Em
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My sil does this about my parenting, housekeeping, and m life in general. AARRGGHh.
hugs to you!
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Leatherette,

I beg to differ... in feeling empathy for your sad DD, and responding to her needs immediately, you are anything BUT weak.
Em
I totally agree. Meeting to your baby's needs make you a great mom.
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Lots of
to you!

Why do people actually think they have the right to say things like that??
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Good lord, what was this woman thinking?

under 1 year old, children sometimes have completely unexplained fussy periods that you sometimes can figure out later...but only sometimes...

Be glad to hold your dd. do what you need to comfort her!
Leatherette, what did you say in response to this rude woman's comment?

I never have a good reply ready when such things happen to me. So when I see these stories, I try to think of a good zinger to use in case it happens to me. hehehe

I'm sorry this happened to you. Keep responding to your baby's needs. I have a story similar to thirtycats' story. My 19mo needed to be held constantly as a baby. We co-slept, I had to hold her during naps even if I stayed awake, one of us had to hold her while we ate, she nursed about 22 hours a day, she screamed as she sat in the bouncey seat during my showers, etc. This was true for most of her first year. Of course, SIL, along with FIL and MIL, insisted that we were "spoiling" her and she'd never learn to be "independent." Well, today I took my 19mo to a new doc's office (new doc for me), and she walked up to everyone in the waiting room, talked to them, and offered them her crackers and sippy-cup. She has finally become what AP-ers have always promised me: an outgoing, self-confident child. SIL's 4yo, who was (forced to be) so "independent" as a baby, is now fearful, clingy, and dependent. Ok, I realize some of that could be the age. But for my own sake, I like to think it's the detached parenting. (Not that I'm happy that the kid is like this. I'm quite sad for him, actually.)

Yea, but dh and I are the bad parents.
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She sounds lame.
I mean, geez. I dont' even know what to say, except my ds was always fussy when teething, and that was what... 5 months to 25 months? Hmmm.... It is easy to let the comments get you down, but remember you are a good mama!
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I just quietly said, "I don't think so", and went about my business with the baby. I was pissed anyway, because her kids walked into my house and just started tearing it up and she was sitting there telling me I was doing something wrong instead of helping her kids get interested in some positive play. So I didn't want to say too much. I just made a mental note that I was not inviting her over again.

L.
Both of my kids went through phases, from around 8mo to 12mo and then again for a few months after, when all they wanted was to be held. I remember crying sometimes when I was trying to make dinner and not burn/cut any little fingers but the little ones just wouldn't stand for being put down. It was very frustrating. I did get a good idea from one mama about if you need to do something specific, like make dinner, take a shower, etc.. have a special box of toys that they only see for that special time, that they REALLY like. (I made some homemade rattles (recycled water bottles))

But, we basically had to just wait it out...walking helped, and getting a few words helped even more. Most of the time they are ok now, sometimes Gabi (18mo) still gets frustrated, but mostly she just gets in a kitchen chair and talks to me while I cook.

As for the rude comment, you did what you should have done, don't engage her it won't help anything. She obviously doesn't know as much as she thinks she does. Chin up!
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Leather, I'm sure by now that you know you're a great mom and some people must have had VERY unattached parenting themselves to be so unable to nurture...

and Corvus:
"Of course, SIL, along with FIL and MIL, insisted that we were "spoiling" her and she'd never learn to be "independent." Well, today I took my 19mo to a new doc's office (new doc for me), and she walked up to everyone in the waiting room, talked to them, and offered them her crackers and sippy-cup. She has finally become what AP-ers have always promised me: an outgoing, self-confident child. SIL's 4yo, who was (forced to be) so "independent" as a baby, is now fearful, clingy, and dependent. Ok, I realize some of that could be the age."

My 4 yr old is much like your 19 mo old. She is the most outgoing child I have ever seen, so it's not the age
She is still underfoot in the kitchen and I love it; it's where she learns best. DS is much like y'alls high needs babies, but as long as I meet his needs (to the best of my abilities
) he is also a pretty outgoing little guy in public. He still wants me to be the one holding him, but he does "talk" to strangers
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I just made a mental note that I was not inviting her over again.


Sorry you had a rough time!
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