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Well my washer is putting black streaks and spots on all our clothes. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked"> This one is 4 1/2 years old. Our last one lasted 5 years. I have totally had it with Kenmore. What pieces of crap.<br><br><a href="http://www.appliancejournal.com/appliance-repair-help/washer-repair/why-kenmore-front-load-washers-fail-271/" target="_blank">http://www.appliancejournal.com/appl...hers-fail-271/</a><br><br>
I am looking to get a Maytag top loader. Old school style like my MIL's that has lasted her 25 years. My SIL has had hers the same kind for 12 years.<br><br>
The only thing is that the model I am looking at isn't an energy star model. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> The energy star model cost $400 more than the one I think I want which comes in at $450. Is energy star going to save me $400 dollars over the life of the machine?<br><br>
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I think it depends on a lot of factors like the amount your electricity costs, how much do you pay for water, etc....<br><br><br>
Honestly, I would marry my new LG Steam washer if I could. I LOVE that thing.
 

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I have had really poor experiences with Kenmore products, or whichever big electronics company manufactures products for Kenmore. I currently have an LG front loader. However, when I was shopping for this the appliance people were telling me about a very low-end top loader that they loved-cheap, rarely needed repairs, and easy to repair if needed. I wish I could remeber the brand!
 

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My very expensive Kenmore FL died after 5 years. But I bought another FLer anyway--this time a Whirlpool--because I love being able to wash my comforters/pillows/coats, etc. I hope it lasts a lot longer. The appliance guy who diagnosed the death of my Kenmore told me to get the extended warranty on any FLers because they are expensive to repair.<br><br>
Whether you save $400 dollars over the life of the machine really depends on how long it lasts. I would guess a top loader would last at least 10 years, then again, even the top loaders aren't made as well as they used to be. Nothing is, really (well, except cars--I think they do last longer now).
 

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I have a Whirlpool top-loader that's going strong after 5.5 years, and that's with washing diapers every 2-4 days in addition to our regular laundry. I don't know about the energy-star rating and money saving, though.
 

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I had the same Whirlpool top loader washing machine for 25 years without a need for any repairs at all. Now during that time, I lived abroad twice. The first time it was unused in my mother's garage and the second time it was used by the house sitters. So over 20 years of use... and when I gave it away, it was still in working condition. They just don't make 'em like they used to. The one we have now is dh's newer set he brought to the marriage. I still miss my old one. It definitely cleaned better.
 

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DH and I took the rubber off the front and cleaned in all the little cracks and creases. There was a lot of built up black ? in there that I wouldn't have been able to clean off without taking it out.<br><br>
I just ran a empty load of HOT soapy vinegar water through it so I am hoping that it is going to be good and clean now. Which is good because the last thing I feel like spending my money on right now is a new appliance.<br><br>
When I think about it, it might be cheaper to take my laundry to a laundramat! If the front loader cost me $900 and it lasted me 4 1/2 years. That's $200 a year just to wash laundry without even adding in the cost of electricity and water!<br><br>
Wish me luck!
 

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If you decide to replace it, go poke around the <a href="http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/residential/business/manufacturers/price-tags.cfm?attr=12" target="_blank">EnerGuide</a> website. There used to be a list of all appliances with price tags and second price tags. The second price is the price of the appliance over its lifespan I think.
 

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OP, this article about "stinky front loaders" may help you. We now have a HE top loader after a frustrating experience with a front loader.<br><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33997384" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33997384</a><br>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">OP, this article about "stinky front loaders" may help you. We now have a HE top loader after a frustrating experience with a front loader.<br><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33997384" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33997384</a><br>
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Thanks for that video LMT. We will have to check the manual to see if there is a lint trap and if their is clean it out.<br><br>
I cleaned the rubber seal really well. $300 FOR A NEW ONE! Highway robbery!<br><br><span style="font-size:xx-small;">I think I'm getting old.</span>
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">If you decide to replace it, go poke around the <a href="http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/residential/business/manufacturers/price-tags.cfm?attr=12" target="_blank">EnerGuide</a> website. There used to be a list of all appliances with price tags and second price tags. The second price is the price of the appliance over its lifespan I think.</div>
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Thanks!
 

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I LOVE my Kenmore front loader. It's the very basic model and has been going strong for almost 8 years. If we leave clothes in it for too long they do get stinky, but the washer itself doesn't stink.
 

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<sigh> my kenmore front loader is in its last days of life. 5 years old, that is all. I am bummed, but after reading on what is likely wrong with it, it will cost more to repair than to replace. How messed up is that?
 

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I'm not sure if you're having the same problem we had or not but here's my story...<br>
Our front loader was making our cloths STINK!!! really unbearably bad. We cleaned it really well and after some internet research switch to the H.E. POWDER detergent instead of the liquid. Problem solved. Apparently there is some anti bacterial? mold? I don't know what, but something in there that they can put in the powder but not the liquid that keeps the washer from growing stuff. It also is supposed to help if after you run a load to leave your door cracked open so the tub can air dry.<br><br>
Hope some of that helps. GOOD LUCK!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">My Kenmore front loader sucked until I found Tide HE powder degergent. Now it is fabulous.</div>
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Our machine didn't really smell bad because we always left the door open when we weren't using it.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">DH and I took the rubber off the front and cleaned in all the little cracks and creases. There was a lot of built up black ? in there that I wouldn't have been able to clean off without taking it out.<br><br>
I just ran a empty load of HOT soapy vinegar water through it so I am hoping that it is going to be good and clean now. Which is good because the last thing I feel like spending my money on right now is a new appliance.<br><br>
Wish me luck!</div>
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I forgot to say we replaced the hot and cold water hoses as well.<br><br>
Well I washed a test load of cloth diapers (no poop DS just wears them at night) and cloth TP in there and didn't notice any NEW black streaks or spots.<br><br>
So problem solved right?<br><br>
Wrong. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> Today I washed a mixed load and some of the stuff came out with black streaks and spots on it. I have no idea where it is coming from! This black stuff will not wash out and the repair people have never ever heard of such a thing.<br><br>
Swiching to Tide HE isn't going to fix this problem folks. I have been using the same biodegradeable, phosphate free soap in my front loader since I bought it and this has never happened before now.<br><br>
Thanks so much to all that have sympathized with me. I'm off the see if the appliance store is open in town here.
 

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There is a maytag set for sale this weekend at home depot. I think $600 for the set, saving $600. IT is energy star. I am pushing dh to get these. They are not front loaders.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">However, when I was shopping for this the appliance people were telling me about a very low-end top loader that they loved-cheap, rarely needed repairs, and easy to repair if needed. I wish I could remeber the brand!</div>
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Was it a <a href="http://www.staber.com/washingmachines" target="_blank">Staber</a>?<br><br>
FWIW, I've had a bunch of "in the know" people tell me that what you're after is horizontal axis- no agitator. The problem with the front loaders is, well, the nature of water and gravity trying to pull the water out. You end up with seals that malfunction.<br><br>
On the other hand, a horizontal axis machine that is a top loader (opens thru a trap in the side of the drum) is just as energy efficient as a front loader but without any of the seal/leakage/etc. problems.
 

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UGH.... The person I'm rooming with has a new front loader, maytag I think... all I can say is the machine STINKS.... when and *if* we get out of where I definately know what type of appliances I dont want..<br><br>
OP so sorry you are having appliance h#ll.
 
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