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My mom has pancreatic cancer and is considering chemo. I am completely against this and could write a novel on the crap that the drs have done to her but anyhoo... My whole family has a meeting with the dr, a Q&A about the chemo treatments. The dr tells me that I will have to keep my 5 mo old away from my mother for at least 4-6 weeks since dd is scheduled for her next series of vax.<br><br>
Well dd is NOT vaxed and after all of the arguments that I had brought up against the chemo I decided to keep this fact to myself. But I did ask why I would have to keep dd away from my mom.<br><br>
Dr tells us that my mom's immune system will be so weak from the chemo that she could catch one of the diseases that my baby was being vaxed against, especially polio.<br><br>
Hhhhmmmmmm, very interesting.
 

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Interesting INDEED! Now this is about the third time I've heard of a doctor requesting that vaccinated kids be kept away from their patients.<br><br>
I've read of a teacher who had some kind of transplant surgery and had to stay away from school longer than people are kept off work for the same surgery, BECAUSE she was a grade school teacher and kids might be newly vaccinated.<br><br>
Do they know more than they tell us?
 

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Interesting!<br><br>
I can also guarantee you that if you said, "She's not vaxed," he would also tell you to keep her away from your mom. Sigh.<br><br>
I'm sorry your mama is sick.
 

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Imagine that - a doctor who doesn't know we don't use OPV anymore. Or that babies that little don't get any live virus vaccines. How would she be able to transmit one of those illnesses she would be scheduled to be vaxed for if the vax doesn't contain any live organisms?
 

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Well this dr is a schmuck. He sent my mom in for a horrible surgical procedure telling her that this was the only thing that they could do for her. They opened her up and discovered that she had liver disease and could not perform the original procedure. The dr supposedly tested for this but didn't find it. And now all of a sudden there is this new chemo (even though pancreatic cancer does NOT respond to chemo) that mom can try. But, I looked up this chemo drug and it is contraindicated for those with liver disease and there are no clinical studies on drug interactions. And of course he has mom on tons of medication. I asked him about the lack of clinical studies and he said that this chemo was experimental, he wasn't going to say anything about this unless he was asked. After the vax thing I am convinced that he doesn't have a clue. But my mom is one of those that thinks that dr=God, so she doesn't question anything. I am begging her to find another dr.
 

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I'm currently undergoing chemo for breast cancer. Please try to talk your mom into finding a new doctor. I am a person who typically hates the medical profession, but I am blown away by my oncologist and his office. It is like nothing I've ever experienced before--they are caring, compassionate, and cheerful and the doc is on top of everything.<br><br>
Good doctors do exist, and I hope your mom can find one. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/hug2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Hug2"> I'm so sorry that you and your family are going through this.
 

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Aww, I'm sorry your mama is sick. (And you too EFmom) My aunt was on chemo last year but we didnt have to keep my non-vaxed son away from her. I wonder if he was vaxed if we would have.<br><br>
I always wonder about that, my 5 y/o cousin has leukemia and his parents know we dont vax and I wonder. They've never said anything or acted weird though. Of course if he was even the slightest bit sick with anything, I would definately keep him away due to common sense.
 

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i am sorry your mom is going through so much right now<br><br><br>
what i think your doctor means that some vaccinations may cause a few to catch the disease in the first few days. i think its best to be honest with the doc, no matter how dumb he seems to be. vaccinated or not, its what is best for your mum at this point. i am not trying to be heartless. i would think he would advise anyone who is sick to be kept away and i guess he thinks that just after someone has had some shots that someone with no immune system will catch the disease which the vaxed persons body is trying to fight off<br><br>
i hope they are able to help your mom feel better. a second opinion is good either way
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'm currently undergoing chemo for breast cancer. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/hug2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Hug2"> I'm so sorry that you and your family are going through this.</div>
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<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> to YOU. I am so sorry that you and your family are going through this. Keep us posted on how you are doing.<br>
Thank you for offering me advice when you are in such a bad situation yourself.<br><br>
Thanks for everyone's good wishes. Hopefully I can convince my mom to get another opinion. Her cancer is very slow growing so she does have some time to make any major treatment decisions.<br><br>
I just thought that what the oncologist told us was interesting because it is the exact opposite of what the pediatrition told us.
 

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First, I am sorry that your mom is sick. God bless you and I hope all goes well for your family. Secondly, I wanted to add that my father died from cancer after a four-year-long battle that included chemo, and during the latter half of his illness I lived in his and my mother's home with my unvaxed child, with no porbs.<br><br>
I can understand where her doctor is coming from, since some viruses do shed from vaccines theoretically could make your mom sick. He is also saying that to cover his butt as well. However, if got me thinking, what would he say if he knew your daughter was unvaxed? Would he then tell your mom to stay away from her always? Hmmm, I wonder. So stay away because of vax, and stay away because of no vax? Interesting.
 

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I'm so sorry about your mother. My FIL just went through the same battle and lost on May 1st. But anyways, his Onc. agreed that it was good that we weren't vaxxing, b/c of his severly weakened immune system.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">s to you CrazyRed!<br><br>
When my DH was very ill, especially during the last six months, I was told to keep children away from him, especially children who had recently been vaccinated, as they are carriers of the disease they have been vaccinated against.<br><br>
My DH's immune system was very low, and he was susceptible to many opportunistic infections and diseases, so, of course, children who were recently vaccinated would be a danger to him.<br><br>
This is what my Father, the Chiropractor of Blessed Memory, used to say about vaccines, and this is the first collaboration I have of this fact.<br><br>
I mentioned this once, only once, to a troll on this forum, and he told me I was full of crap. MMMM, I know I am correct, however.<br><br>
Take care, CrazyRed! G-d bless and keep you strong.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/praying.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="praying">: for you.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">s to you also, EFmom.<br><br>
Stay strong for your DCs<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/praying.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="praying">: for you
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'm so sorry about your mother. My FIL just went through the same battle and lost on May 1st. But anyways, his Onc. agreed that it was good that we weren't vaxxing, b/c of his severly weakened immune system.</div>
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I am so sorry for your family. This is a tough thing to watch. Please convey my sympathy to your dh.<br><br>
Thank you to everyone for thinking of me and my family.<br><br>
Jami
 

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This might help you explain which vaccines are especially worrysome for immune compromised people. It's from the National Kidney Foundation <a href="http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=124" target="_blank">http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=124</a><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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Those would be the vaccines most likely to cause harm to a person other than the direct recipient. I get from your post that you are probably not ever vaxxing at all, but it is important to know. Other people in your family might be getting these vaxes, especially health care workers or pre-conception stage women.<br>
I am thinking of you and your mom. I am hoping that the time you have together from this day forward is not corrupted by these issues, but is a time of hope and love.
 

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