[Can Dance]

This is the first time I have felt like something I said actually made an IMPACT on someone elses behaviour.

I know that because I am pretty knowledgeable about bfing, frankly its amazing to me what it does, how it works and how amazing it is to our bodies, I find it endlessly fascinating. I am not super knowledgeable in the logistics department, but I know endless facts about messing withe the biological norm.

anyway, this summer I got to chat with my moms neighbour. she was pregnant with twins and somehow we started discussing bfing twins. and bfing her first. she told me that she bfed her first until 15 months I think, but quit because she thought she was suppose to stop and started to feel like a freak because none of her friends were doing it. I told her that I will still bfing #2 at 27 months so I didnt think she was weird at all

She started to tell me that her ped was saying most twins needed to be supplemented

and I told her that was a load. in so many words of course. I even resisted commenting on some growth chart she had out sponsored by Nestle, though I did tell her that was for FORMULA FED babies, not bfed babies, and there IS a difference in development.

Anyway, apparently she took this information and ran with it. She gave birth via c/s, went into labour and had placenta abruption, but the babies were okay, she was VERY CLEAR that those babies WERE NOT TO HAVE ANY FORMULA period. that SHE was their feeding place, no one else.
She came to find out that the nurses disregarded her wishes, and her ped withheld judgment because he wanted to make sure everything was "okay" before he said exclusive bfing was okay

it makes me insane that health professionals are so completely STUPID about bfing issues. anyway, she was incensed, left the hospital ASAP and has filed a formal complaint with the hospital. As well the public health nurse was also angry and has also filed a formal complaint.

so I guess this is a good/bad story, but honestly I am THRILLED that my words went somewhere. I am passionate about this subject, but I know its also an emotional laden filled one that every mother seems to have big feelings about one way or another. I felt like I was factual and even keel without sounding crazy, which I try so hard to avoid, but I know some people hear it that way regardless of what you are saying.

and the other happy news, the babies are now FULLY and EXCLUSIVELY still bfed and back up to their birth weight within 2 weeks. take that stinky nurses! and apparently she is still going on strong and the babies are now a month.

I thought I would share my joy

 

[nummies]

Good for you!!! And her!

 

[velcromom]

That's great!

 

[Tine]

Wow, good job! So nice to know that you've made a difference, eh?

 

[AFWife]

Awesome on both counts!

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How can one make sure that it doesn't happen to them? (the hospital disregarding wishes)

 

[KristyDi]

Good for you and good for that mama!

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Originally Posted by AFWife Awesome on both counts! : How can one make sure that it doesn't happen to them? (the hospital disregarding wishes)

Keep the baby(ies) with you. Healthy babies do not need to go to the nursery. If, for some reason, they do need to take the baby somewhere you can insist on going or sending a trusted partner or family member with the baby.

 

[Aubergine68]

Congratulations! Good work!

My sister is nursing newborn twins right now, and it is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen....

I think there was way too much formula-pushing in her case, too. But all is right now.

 

[Romana]

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Originally Posted by KristyDi Good for you and good for that mama! Keep the baby(ies) with you. Healthy babies do not need to go to the nursery. If, for some reason, they do need to take the baby somewhere you can insist on going or sending a trusted partner or family member with the baby.

Yeah, but she had a c/s. You can't insist on keeping your baby with you when you have a c/s, right? They have to stitch you up, take you to recovery, you probably couldn't hold both babies right away, etc. I feel like the best way to deal with this if you have a c/s is to have daddy go with the babies.

She also had a placental abruption . . . that probably made this an emergency c/s and maybe even under general anesthesia? Regardless, more tricky than a regular c/s . . . twins plus placental abruption.

 

[calebsmommy25]

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: How exciting and wonderful to KNOW you made a difference in the life of that Mama and those twins, and maybe others. You informed this Mama who will hopefully pass on the news of breastfeeding to impact others. So fantastic!!!

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[Theoretica]

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Originally Posted by Romana9+2 Yeah, but she had a c/s. You can't insist on keeping your baby with you when you have a c/s, right? They have to stitch you up, take you to recovery, you probably couldn't hold both babies right away, etc. I feel like the best way to deal with this if you have a c/s is to have daddy go with the babies. She also had a placental abruption . . . that probably made this an emergency c/s and maybe even under general anesthesia? Regardless, more tricky than a regular c/s . . . twins plus placental abruption.

We had an understanding (DH and I) that if for any reason *I* had to be separated from our baby, HE was to stay with the baby no matter what, our doula would stay with me or if she wasn't there then I'd do fine on my own. This way there would be no 'accidental' formula or anything else going on without our explicit knowledge and consent.

It wasn't an issue as I was lucky enough to enjoy a natural birth both times, but the ENTIRE night after she was born the [email protected] nurses kept offering (insisting) to take her to the nursery. I think they're bored or something. Finally DH took her walking in the hallway and told the nurses to leave me alone so I could sleep, and that he had everything under control w/our newest bundle. They tried one more time to take her from HIM (just to warm her up you see...) and he jut about lost it on them, told them they would need our pediatrician to PERSONALLY explain why there was any need to take her from either of us for any length of time as she was healthy and nursing fine. They finally backed off lol.

Anywhoo, congrats on giving her the support she needed to be a successful bfing mama to twins!!! Give yourself a huge pat on the back!

Bellevuemama

 

[KristyDi]

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Originally Posted by Romana9+2 Yeah, but she had a c/s. You can't insist on keeping your baby with you when you have a c/s, right? They have to stitch you up, take you to recovery, you probably couldn't hold both babies right away, etc. I feel like the best way to deal with this if you have a c/s is to have daddy go with the babies. She also had a placental abruption . . . that probably made this an emergency c/s and maybe even under general anesthesia? Regardless, more tricky than a regular c/s . . . twins plus placental abruption.

I agree in the situation described by the OP then the partner or trusted family member going with the baby(ies) is the best choice. But as that's a somewhat rare situation so I was addressing the more common situation as well.

 

[Swan3]

Good for you and for that mama!

It's nice to know that words can turn into positive action.

Wonderful wonderful wonderful!

 

[MaryJaneLouise]

for you!

 

[eurobin]

woohoo, that's awesome!!

 

[Breeder]

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Originally Posted by Romana9+2 Yeah, but she had a c/s. You can't insist on keeping your baby with you when you have a c/s, right? They have to stitch you up, take you to recovery, you probably couldn't hold both babies right away, etc. I feel like the best way to deal with this if you have a c/s is to have daddy go with the babies. She also had a placental abruption . . . that probably made this an emergency c/s and maybe even under general anesthesia? Regardless, more tricky than a regular c/s . . . twins plus placental abruption.

(bolding mine). There is no reason what so ever that a healthy infant ever need to be seperated from their parents. I had a c/s, while I was stitched up DH was with the babe. Having someone guard the baby is the best way to keep your wishes respected.

To the OP: good on you! It's so awesome that you impacted her in a positive way.