Mothering Forum banner
701 - 720 of 1043 Posts

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
3,046 Posts
<div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px;">Quote:</div>
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">
<div>Originally Posted by <strong>Mammo2Sammo</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/12708357"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">good info everyone. I have two questions.<br><br>
I am blown away by the numbers of probiotics in the milk kefir. Does water kefir have the same benefit? That's what we use. (dairy and coconut free - although I do want to try coconut for my older son)<br><br>
Do you cook with palm oil? like coconut oil? or do you eat it straight up?<br><br>
just found this. answered my own questions about palm oil <a href="http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/red_palm_oil.htm?gclid=CO355pq_npcCFQVxFQod1yA89g" target="_blank">http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/re...FQVxFQod1yA89g</a></div>
</td>
</tr></table></div>
I would like to know this too, if the water kefir would have as high a number of bacteria.<br><br>
Also, do you guys think a particular brand of coconut oil is best? The one link Pat gave was recommending Tropical Traditions, and that is the one here too.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
8,750 Posts
<div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px;">Quote:</div>
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">
<div>Originally Posted by <strong>Mammo2Sammo</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/12708357"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">good info everyone. I have two questions.<br><br>
I am blown away by the numbers of probiotics in the milk kefir. Does water kefir have the same benefit? That's what we use. (dairy and coconut free - although I do want to try coconut for my older son)<br><br>
Do you cook with palm oil? like coconut oil? or do you eat it straight up?<br><br>
just found this. answered my own questions about palm oil <a href="http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/red_palm_oil.htm?gclid=CO355pq_npcCFQVxFQod1yA89g" target="_blank">http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/re...FQVxFQod1yA89g</a></div>
</td>
</tr></table></div>
Thanks for that link- that's good info. And it looks like a good source of vitamin E, which I'm really short of... so I definitely need to look into getting some.<br><br>
Just a note to make sure you're buying palm oil from a company that harvests responsibly. Check out <a href="http://www.cmzoo.org/conservation/palmoilcrisis/" target="_blank">this site</a> for more info. Anyone have any brand recommendations?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,936 Posts
I really don't understand this, I have ate copious amounts of coconut oil over the last several years. The last few times I bought coconut oil I bought refined though as I needed a shortening type oil to take the high heat. However, before that it was the virgin. I guess I will try buying some more of the virgin just for purposes of eating straight up. <b>Anyone have any thoughts as to how the coconut cream concentrate would work for the purposes of yeast fightin?</b> It is super high in coconut fat and if I am eating it plain that stuff is super yummy and I would love to have an excuse to buy some more!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
10,747 Posts
First of all #%*#%*#@$%*@#$%*$#% -- I got the friggin' UTI back (today would have been 3 weeks). So is it a start since that was better than it has been in 2.5 years? I guess that means the Flomax didn't work. But I've also been eating TONS of cranberry. And taking 2 99mg potassium tablets a day (recommended for UTIs in a book I just read about yeast). So does that mean none of that worked?<br><br>
Also, just curious, DS has very acidic pee -- as in, it eats away at the bottom of the toilet seat. He's the one that failed the yeast test with me. Is there any correlation?<br><br>
I guess I'll send back the Threelac (because of the Casein) and switch to Coconut Oil, since I have it in the cupboard. Do you just eat it? I've actually been using it on my chapped lips lately, so I've been getting some anyway. And I use it in my cooking.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,936 Posts
<div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px;">Quote:</div>
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">
<div>Originally Posted by <strong>kjbrown92</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/12709585"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">First of all #%*#%*#@$%*@#$%*$#% -- I got the friggin' UTI back (today would have been 3 weeks). So is it a start since that was better than it has been in 2.5 years? I guess that means the Flomax didn't work. But I've also been eating TONS of cranberry. And taking 2 99mg potassium tablets a day (recommended for UTIs in a book I just read about yeast). So does that mean none of that worked?<br><br>
Also, just curious, DS has very acidic pee -- as in, it eats away at the bottom of the toilet seat. He's the one that failed the yeast test with me. Is there any correlation?<br><br>
I guess I'll send back the Threelac (because of the Casein) and switch to Coconut Oil, since I have it in the cupboard. Do you just eat it? I've actually been using it on my chapped lips lately, so I've been getting some anyway. And I use it in my cooking.</div>
</td>
</tr></table></div>
Kathy- so sorry to hear about the UTI- that really, really stinks. I am sure the experts will chime in- but perhaps it is back due to some dietary indiscretions on the holidays here? I know before if I would have one bad day the yi would start to creep back.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
10,747 Posts
The only "indiscretion" I had was that I didn't have lemon in my water for the last two days that I've been doing (to alkalize me), and wasn't as good for the last 2 days about getting lots of leafy greens (again, to alkalize) and I was eating more meat (which is acid). I wasn't bad with sugar, and I didn't eat any of my trigger foods (gluten, dairy, soy). So maybe the alkalizing thing is the trick, for me. It's a day of drs. today -- just did a blood test (thyroid, cortisol, and DHA I think it was). Made an appt. for the UTI for this morning. And the new osteopath/holistic doctor this afternoon. I'm reallllllly hoping this new doctor will be good.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
3,046 Posts
<div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px;">Quote:</div>
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">
<div>Originally Posted by <strong>crunchy_mama</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/12709558"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">I really don't understand this, I have ate copious amounts of coconut oil over the last several years. The last few times I bought coconut oil I bought refined though as I needed a shortening type oil to take the high heat. However, before that it was the virgin. I guess I will try buying some more of the virgin just for purposes of eating straight up. <b>Anyone have any thoughts as to how the coconut cream concentrate would work for the purposes of yeast fightin?</b> It is super high in coconut fat and if I am eating it plain that stuff is super yummy and I would love to have an excuse to buy some more!</div>
</td>
</tr></table></div>
I wonder about this a lot. Basically, why some people following a yeast diet, or consuming the anti-yeast substances, are still battling with yeast. Why is that in some people they seem to not be able to get the balance back despite religiously reducing sugars, etc?? Is yeast just that strong that it sticks in there somehow??
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,936 Posts
I have a feeling it is going to be something about metals... that seems to be coming up a lot lately. sigh.... I know that I don't have traditional forms of exposure(ie no metal fillings, no chlorinated water, no flourides, no lead filled houses) but seems that doesn't matter.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
10,747 Posts
<div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px;">Quote:</div>
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">
<div>Originally Posted by <strong>crunchy_mama</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/12710099"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">I have a feeling it is going to be something about metals... that seems to be coming up a lot lately. sigh.... I know that I don't have traditional forms of exposure(ie no metal fillings, no chlorinated water, no flourides, no lead filled houses) but seems that doesn't matter.</div>
</td>
</tr></table></div>
Does that mean you don't do flouride toothpaste either? My father went to the dentist and they said he had to have prescription flouride because his teeth were so bad (the guy has had a mouthful of fillings and crowns for a zillion years) and he's blaming it on moving to our town 3 years ago, where there's well water that of course, is NOT flouridated. I said if that were the case, the entire town would be plagued by mouthfuls of cavities, wouldn't they? I haven't had a new cavity since I was a kid (on town flouridated water, I might add) and only one of my kids had cavities -- two -- when she was about 3 yo. DH, who has always had well water, doesn't have any cavities. But he won't listen to me talking about flouride.<br><br>
I guess I may have a metals problem too (something to ask the new doctor today). Summers in a lead filled house growing up, a mouthful of mercury since I was 5 or 6, cholorinated/municipal water from birth to 18.... yikes. But you think that would prevent the yeast from dying somehow?
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
11,072 Posts
<div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px;">Quote:</div>
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">
<div>Originally Posted by <strong>Mammo2Sammo</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/12708357"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;"><br>
I am blown away by the numbers of probiotics in the milk kefir. Does water kefir have the same benefit? That's what we use.</div>
</td>
</tr></table></div>
My understanding is that yogurt has about 7-10 different strains of probiotics. Water kefir about 30 different strains of probiotics. Milk kefir about 37+ different strains of probiotics.<br><br>
I believe that water kefir has much more probiotic benefit than yogurt; perhaps, slightly less than milk kefir.<br><br><br>
Pat
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,936 Posts
No flouride here in toothpaste. Have been on well water (not in the middle of any farmlands fwiw) since birth- only had 5 months when we were at a rental that had nasty city water, but we did bottled while there. The dentist blamed all my neices (4 yo) cavities on lack of flouride as well- of course the fact that she was ALWAYS drinking sugary drinks and eating junkfood couldn't have helped. Anyway my kids are cavity free as far as I know_ I really need to get the oldest in to the dentist.<br><br>
I know I have read FF talking about being toxic keeps us from being in balance and yeast overgrowth is definitely an imbalance (hoping I am understanding that correctly). I am also thinking of this in relation to the fact that it was also discussed that iodine causing one to feel one unwell is due to it chelating- iodine doesn't sit well with me. Also, I have also heard FF say that the taste test for zinc won't work if one is metal toxic and it seems that zinc always taste nasty to me regardless of when I take it- which makes me wonder- am I actually getting enough or is some kind of toxic load making my body not recognize that it is something I need OR is there something else in the whole puzzle I am missing.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
11,992 Posts
<div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px;">Quote:</div>
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">
<div>Originally Posted by <strong>kjbrown92</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/12710139"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">But you think that would prevent the yeast from dying somehow?</div>
</td>
</tr></table></div>
I'm sorry if I'm a broken record here...but YES. You CANNOT kill yeast if metals are present ESPECIALLY mercury. That's one of the reasons I'm just not on board with yeast being the root of all health issues.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
11,072 Posts
<div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px;">Quote:</div>
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">
<div>Originally Posted by <strong>momofmine</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/12708346"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">Wow, candida albicans had 100% susceptibility to coconut oil! That's pretty amazing. I wonder how much you would need to consume of it though, to impact the yeast in your gut? And is yeast in your gut always candida albicans?</div>
</td>
</tr></table></div>
I read 3-4 tablespoons a day is recommended. One with each meal, and at bedtime. I need a smaller tablespoon, 'cause it is hard to get down, unless I nibble for a long time. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
There are many types of yeast, some are pathological, some are beneficial.<br><br><br>
Pat
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
11,072 Posts
<div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px;">Quote:</div>
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">
<div>Originally Posted by <strong>momofmine</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/12708401"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;"><br>
Also, do you guys think a particular brand of coconut oil is best? The one link Pat gave was recommending Tropical Traditions, and that is the one here too.</div>
</td>
</tr></table></div>
I believe the maximum benefits are from non-refined, especially not <b>heat</b> expeller pressed, and not deodorized.<br><br>
I'm curious about the coconut milk/cream/fat benefits. I think it tastes much creamier and yummier than the coconut oil on a spoon.<br><br><br>
Pat
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
11,072 Posts
<div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px;">Quote:</div>
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">
<div>Originally Posted by <strong>crunchy_mama</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/12709558"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">I really don't understand this, I have ate copious amounts of coconut oil over the last several years.</div>
</td>
</tr></table></div>
<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/headscratch.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="headscratch"> I don't understand either, other than if you are replacing the yeast with probiotics regularly? And what about heavy metals? Firefaery has about bummed me out since I know that is probably my bigger issue...<br><br><br>
Pat
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,936 Posts
I get various forms of probiotics and have for the last several years as well, kefir, yogurt, water kefir and coconut yogurt as of late- fermented veggies etc.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
11,072 Posts
<div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px;">Quote:</div>
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">
<div>Originally Posted by <strong>kjbrown92</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/12709585"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">First of all #%*#%*#@$%*@#$%*$#% -- I got the friggin' UTI back (today would have been 3 weeks).</div>
</td>
</tr></table></div>
I'm sorry to hear this. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"><br><br>
Have you added a bunch of the natural antibacterial, antifungal, antimicrobial herbs, spices, foods, in addition to <b>S. boulardii</b> to replace the yeast and <b>bifidum bacteria</b> to help the gut ph? Not just lactobacillus.<br><br>
Let's look about "alkaline" forming foods again? I know some of these are no-nos for you. This is my list of nutrient dense, alkaline forming foods.<br><br>
bananas<br>
pineapple<br>
kale<br>
spinach<br>
dandelion<br>
ginger<br>
flax seed oil<br>
collard greens<br>
cinnamon<br>
cucumber<br>
fig<br>
dates<br>
grapes<br>
oranges<br>
pumpkin seeds<br>
chestnuts<br>
sunflower seeds<br>
chili pepper<br>
salt<br>
peppers<br>
sprouts<br>
carrot<br>
celery<br>
garlic<br>
lemons<br>
limes<br>
wheat grass<br>
olive oil<br>
turnip<br>
watermelon<br>
beets<br>
apple<br>
coconut<br>
curry<br>
strawberries<br>
grapefruit juice (note this makes many medications less effective)<br>
pear<br>
peach<br>
bee pollen<br>
almonds<br>
avocado<br>
oranges<br>
cherry juice<br>
black strap molasses<br>
apricots<br>
raisins<br><br>
HTH, Pat
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
11,072 Posts
Acidic foods to avoid: <b>grains, meat, beans</b>, egg, cheese, peanuts, butter, chocolate, honey, mayo, vinegar, wine, Brazil <b>nuts</b>, pecans, walnuts.<br><br>
Pat
 
701 - 720 of 1043 Posts
Top