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My son has just been diagnosed with asthma, it is mainly triggered by colds. He's had asthma all his life, but was just now diagnosed. He's never before had a flu shot. He hasn't been vaccinated since he had a severe local reaction to the Hib shot. (It ended up leaving a blotch on his skin after months and months of a huge knot.)<br><br>
I'd usually turn down the flu shot, but now I'm worried about my son. He recently had to go to the ER because he had a severe asthma attack. I just got a pamplet from his preschool saying that kids wiht asthma are at severe risk of possibly deadly complications from the flu, and they recommend the flu shot.<br><br>
I'd normally say no, but now I feel as if I'm playing with fire. However, he's never had a flu shot and has had asthma since infancy. What should I do? I'm totally and completely at a loss.<br><br>
I normally believe that the risk of vaccinating is greater than having severe complications of the diseases, but now I just don't know. When it comes to my son's breathing, i don't want to take risks. Watching him fight for breath was one of the most scary events in my life, and I don't wanna ever do it again. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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My 6 yr old has one lung, had open heart surgery at the age of 6 weeks of age to repair his heart and his under developed right lung was removed.<br><br>
I declined the RSV shot they recommended for him and refused all further shots after the 6 month round caused several problems. He had respiratory problems (among other things) after the shots that lasted on and off for a couple years. I would never get him another shot, including one for the flu. I don't like how they're made, the theory behind them is great and wonderful, but in actual practice, it leaves much to be desired.<br><br>
Just my opinion.
 

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I have asthma, have since I was around 11 or 12. The sickest I ever got was when I got the flu shot, followed closely by working in close proximity to someone who had jsut gotten FluMist.<br><br>
I wouldn't. Beef up his immune system and make sure his hands get washed a lot. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> Asthma can be scary, so make sure it is well managed, and that will help a ton - both if he catches a cold, and when he is healthy.
 

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I was dx w/asthma when I was 10, I'm now 32. I remember when people with asthma were told to NOT get the flu shot, for the reason Angela mentioned. It's just been in the past several years I've heard it recommended for asthmatics. I've never gotten a flu shot b/c of those earlier recommendations. I've had the flu, it's no fun- but I'd rather take my chances with the flu than with the vax. Also, when you get the vax, they say you don't get the flu, but you get 'flu-like symptoms'.....ummmmm, yeah- to me, if it feels like the flu, it IS the flu.
 

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There is evidence that the flu shot itself can cause asthma attacks.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Vaccinating asthmatic children against influenza is unlikely to protect them from attacks and may even worsen their condition, say researchers who have found asthma-related emergency department visits are significantly more likely among children who have received a flu shot.</td>
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<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/23/1090464867466.html?oneclick=true#" target="_blank">http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...oneclick=true#</a>
 

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There are many alternatives to enhancing your child's health and asthma status that don't involve vaccination. We use homeopathy and this has basically cured my husband's asthma. He was on benedryl, proventil <b>every four hours</b> and claritin and advair daily, due to allergy induced asthma. He is highly allergic to all air borne pollen, grass, dust, mites, pet dander, etc. Eliminating these allergens is important, especially in the bedroom. However, obviously, some of them can't be eliminated and he would have asthma issues each spring and fall. However, since being on classical homeopathic remedy for two years he hasn't had any asthma in over a year. None. And he no longer takes the benedryl or proventil.<br><br>
We use large doses of vitamin C and Sambucol (for Kids or Adults) which has echinecea (some asthmatics have problems with echinecea). Hydration and humidification (with an aseptically clean humidifier) help to decrease mucus production during colds/flus. A key issue is to identify any dairy or soy allergies and eliminate them. Because these allergens combine to cause severe mucus production when the immune system is under assault of colds/flus.<br><br>
You might also request a prescription for nebulizer treatments, for as needed use, at home with either saline or albuterol. Then you can keep ahead of the asthma issues so that emergency room visits are less likely to develop.<br><br>
I have not researched NAET or TAT; but I have heard that they have also been found to help allergies and subsequent asthma.<br><br>
We don't vaccinate. We support our immune systems rather than artificially assault them. But, our son isn't in daycare and he was breastfed for two years. So, I understand it is a scary issue for you. Originally, I might add, the vaccines were tested on healthy adults and subsequent small studies on healthy children. I don't know the actual number of asthmatic children that the flu vaccine has be experimented on. Most conclusions about safety and efficacy for compromised patient populations are extrapolated from "post marketing research". Which means your son.<br><br>
HTH, Pat
 

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My DS got his only flu shot just before he turned two, since we were taking a 3 week vacation to a colder area. His well child visit was two days before we left and the Pediatrician suggested that it would be a good idea for him. He had never even had a cold or any illness or fever before then, but as soon as he got the flu shot, he was sick, sick, sick, and threw up for over 3 weeks, with a massive cold/flu.<br><br>
No one in my family will ever get a flu shot again! Ever!<br><br>
Just my opinion but I really hope you don't let him get it.<br><br>
Take care.
 

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The flu shot doesn't stand up to what they say it does..so I am not sure that the shot will be much comfort to your situation. The deaths by flu is a scare tactic.<br><br>
Let me point you to this thread and you can decide for yourself if you want to go a different route than the flu shot..there are more natural proven alternatives that are better for your child and your family:<br><br><a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=351236&highlight=flu" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...&highlight=flu</a><br><br>
Here is something on children and flu:<br><br><a href="http://www.cure-guide.com/Flu/Children_s_Flus/children_s_flus.html" target="_blank">http://www.cure-guide.com/Flu/Childr...en_s_flus.html</a><br><br>
And here is a place you can buy decent tasting flu and cold remedies too:<br><br><a href="http://www.herbsforkids.com/" target="_blank">http://www.herbsforkids.com/</a><br><br><br><br>
Good luck and so sorry to hear about your kid's asthma <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> .
 

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This is EXACTLY what happened to me, right around the same age, as well. The doctor said I "had" to get the shot because of having asthma, and I was so friggin sick from that thing. My asthma was mild, too...I was on Proventil and something else I can't remember, three times a day for awhile, then I tapered off unless I felt a cold coming on. I haven't been on anything for nearly 10 years now, with no problems...I rarely ever get sick, and if I do I treat it naturally and I'm fine within 1-3 days...and I've never gotten another flu shot, either.
 

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My dd also has asthma and along with that some food allergies including egg, so she cannot take the shot. Even if she didnt have the egg allergy I would not get it. As my mom had a horrific reaction to one. I have never had it but i have had the flu was not fun by any stretch dd caught it to she was around 15mo but was still bfing so it barly made her sick.
 

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I have asthma and it can get really bad when I get the flu or a chest cold. It goes right to my lungs and I start coughing up stuff, and getting short of breath. I have gotten flu shots some years and not other years (most I do though). Last year was the last straw. I waited in line for 3 hours, got my shot, felt achy for a few days, and in Jan. I got the flu anyway. I don't think I'm going to anymore. My dd2 has medical needs and she also got the flu shot AND got the flu last year.<br><br>
My first course of action when I start to come down with something is to start taking the steriod inhaler. That usually prevents it from getting bad. It's a lesson that took a long time to learn. If I do the steriod inhaler the infection does not get so bad and goes away after 3-5 days. Same with a head cold. If I take the Flonase my head colds don't get as bad. I still feel tired and run down but the sinuses do not get out of control and lead to a sinus infection.<br><br>
Good luck with your decision.
 

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Has anyone decided to NOT have the shot or give it to their children for scientific reasons? If so, do you have any links? I am in the same position as the OP. I have a 20 month old daughter with moderate to severe asthma which are having great difficulty controlling with steroids. It is recommended that she get a flu shot but at this point I am VERY torn between getting it or not. I know there are many people that have bad reactions and that is their reasoning for avoiding the shot and I'm sure if I had a bad reaction it would be more than enough proof for me. But I'm a need-to-know kind of girl so I like to have as much info as I can before I make a decision. Any additional link and info would be greatly appreciated.
 

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The orange or brown container is normally the steroid one... so many different names these days.<br>
Both of my boys , 25 months and 4 years old have been diagnosed with asthma as well. After many many emergency room visits and my youngest being admitted for 2 nights, I have started using the steroid medication at the first sign of a cold. We will see how effective it is... we have been cold free for a whole month now.(which unfortunately was rare last year) I have stopped taking them to playgroups. We have tried to reduce allergens in the house (although they dont seem to induce the asthma being exposed to things they are allergic to compromise thier immune system) and run a hepa filter in thier bedroom. I ripped up the carpet in thier bedroom last weekend (in a rental, without asking the landlords first <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"> ! weve been here for three years though and the carpet needed to be replaced.... only to find the gorgeous original hardwood floors underneath!)<br>
I will NOT be getting the flu shot for them.
 

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No, her steroid is flovent and she takes a 50mcg dose (one puff) 4 times a day. She takes albutorol in her rescue inhaler for emergencies (which happen frequently <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> )
 

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I should add that when she is having a bad day or has a cold I always give the albutorol on a regular basis, either every 4 hours or 6 hours depending on how she's doing.
 

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Village Momma, do they think your kids asthma is allergy-induced? I think that's Chelsea problem but we are currently waiting for allergy testing to confirm it. Her steroid is orange, btw and the rescue one is blue.
 

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Allie... My older son had food allergies that became apparent when he was around two. He has been really affected by dust and pollen and sneezes a lot, but never induces an asthma attack. When I reduce the allergens however he seems to get colds less frequently... which do bring on severe asthma. So good to get the allergy tests. We could tell pretty easily through a little bit of detective work what my son was allergic to, but many people have hidden allergies. We havent had any testing yet. Our homeopath had warned me not to get the scratch test for them but to try to convince the doctor to do the blood test instead.She said somthing about it worsening symtoms, but Im not sure.My younger son doesnt seem to have any allergies, but has the cold induced asthma.... but it seems like allergies might just be showing up around this age.
 

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Enviromental allergies don't usually show up until after 18 months of age. I haven't heard anything negative about the scratch test other than the fact that it sucks! I had it so many times as a kid and hated every minute of the itching. I'll have to look into that one too. I'm allergic to just about everything outside but no food allergies, thank goodness. We were cautious with Chelsea as an infant because we suspected she might have food allergies but so far so good. I'll definately ask about the bllod test. I'm in Canada so I'm not even sure it's offered here. We don't always have the saem medications or treatments available. Thanks!
 
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