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<p>So on November 20th which was around the time af was due I started to spot and went on to have what I thought at the time was a weird af. A week later I was still feeling symptoms and decided to test so I took some internet strip tests and all came up with faint lines, shocked and scared I took more and some first response the next morning, all faint lines. I immediately went to the walk in clinic and told them about the bleeding and everything and they did an in office pee test. The doctor told me the test came back negative. But since I had so many positives of my own he agreed to a blood test. He called that night that to his amazement the test had come back positive. He sent the blood for a beta test and I was told to come in the next day for beta #2. They called before I went to beta #2 and said bad news that the number was only 17 and told me to be prepared for the worst, that I had miscarried already most likely. Went to beta #2 got the call that night that beta #2 was 29 and that it was a good sign that it went up that much in less than 24 hours and that its okay and just early. Which made me get a little excited and happy and get a bit of hope. Then Beta #3 was scheduled for 5 days later and only came back at 71. So there it was my broken heart. She told me that it wasn't a good sign but couldn't tell me for sure that wed lose it. They said they haven't ruled out ectopic and that nothing would be seen on a ultrasound anyways so we just have to wait. I knew that since it wasn't doubling at the right rate it would most likely be bad news and I was so crushed. A couple days later which was this past friday I was on my way to the grocery store with my family when I suddenly started getting horrible severe pains. We immediately went to the emergency room and about 15 minutes in I started bleeding. They did ultrasounds and blood work. The doctor told us that they could not see anything on the ultrasound and that also means this was not due to a ectopic rupturing. He said we still can't rule out ectopic, but at this point he doesn't know for sure what is causing the pain. Well I knew. I am bleeding, of course I know what is happening I am losing our baby.. The pain was there all night at home and was like the labor pain. It was excruciating and the pain pills did not help. I continued to bleed all night and it became more of a af type bleeding than just spotting. I am still bleeding as of right now. I know I lost our baby and I am very heartbroken and this all has really turned my world upside down.</p>
<p>They wanted me to come for a beta today, tomorrow and Tuesday but I didn't make it today because of a bad blizzard. I also have an appointment to "discuss the results" with the doctor on Tuesday. What is the point thought? I know I miscarried and I don't feel pregnant. What is the point of going and seeing insensitive doctors and nurses so they can tell me what I already know? Could I really be at risk still of having a tubal pregnancy? I guess I could go just to make sure my numbers are dropping but my arms are covered in bruising from all the previous bloodwork and iv's. I hate that I had to be in this limbo for so long of what if's and maybes. I just want it all to be over so I can grieve and process. What should I expect at this appointment? How long should I expect this bleeding to last?</p>
<p>Thanks for any advice, support or opinions. I have been on this rollercoaster for weeks now and I am so emotionally drained and done. I am not talking to most of my family and friends because they say things that are very insensitive and hurtful probably without realizing it but it still hurts... <span><img alt="gloomy.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/gloomy.gif"></span></p>
 

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<p>If you feel like it's over I wouldn't bother going back to the doc but I only go to doctors for dire emergencies. If it's a tubal pregnancy and not a miscarriage then the pain won't stop.</p>
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<p>Hi.  I would strongly, STRONGLY urge you to follow up with your doctor to make sure the levels continue to decrease.</p>
<p>I've been through almost the same thing-- my first pregnancy was an ectopic, but it wasn't diagnosed at first.  After much MUCH bloodwork and several vaginal ultrasounds, based on the numbers, and the fact that the hcg wasn't doubling nor was it decreasing, the physicians I was seeing at the time encouraged me to receive the methotrexate injections to treat for an ectopic. </p>
<p>If you haven't had an ectopic completely ruled out, even though you are bleeding and cramping, you could still have an ectopic pregnancy.</p>
<p>I bled for quite a while and had terrible cramps.  I was in your situation-- undiagnosed-- and wanted to miscarry naturally if possible. </p>
<p>Have you passed material you can identify as something other than clots?  You didn't say that for sure, and unless that was the situation, please do know that you can bleed and cramp quite heavily and still have an ectopic.  You have to have medical intervention if you did have an ectopic-- you could lose your tube or even die. </p>
<p>I don't want to scare you, but an ectopic is nothing to fool around with. </p>
<p>If you want to PM me, I'd be happy to offer any support I can while you get blood tests or anything else you need as you make a decision.  hugs.</p>
 

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<p>Thank you guys.</p>
<p>Yeah actually on monday throughout the day I developed a fever, chills and muscle aches along with a tender abdomen and pain on one side. We went back in to the emergency room. They ran extensive blood work searching for infection and sent me for another ultrasound. The ultrasound results came back and the doctor said he was thinking I might have an hemmoragic cyst and that they were calling in my OB. The OB got there and reviewed my results. He came in and said that they were suspecting a possible ectopic and that is why they really called him (??why not say that first) and he expected to come in and do immediate surgery. But although the ultrasound was abnormal they cant be for sure that it is ectopic. He admitted me overnight to the hospital to watch my pain and do bloodwork. My levels ARE dropping, but "not as quick as Id like to see" they dropped by half from friday (the onset of bleeding/pain) to monday. He said that he would come in the next morning and decide if his recommendation is surgery or not. It was a very scary and very stressful night. One one side I was terrified that this was an ectopic and on the other I was confused and annoyed that they seemed to just be at a "it might be, so we might do surgery" I was mad that they wouldnt definitely know before cutting me open. The OB came in this morning and evaluated everything and decided that surgery was not the best option at this point and was happy to see my pain had lessened a bit. They took even more blood. (I have 25 large bruises the entire length of my arms-I guess I am wearing long sleeves for awhile) and sent me home. He said that he will watch the levels until they go down to 0 (its a dark place to be in to be hopeful that they drop quick). I go in thursday for bloodwork and I was scheduled for an appointment as well but will reschedule due to me needing to go be with a client being induced. He told me that it could be an ectopic that has miscarried and is working its way out or a miscarriage and something else on the scan. My bleeding stopped on sunday and the doctor told me that I haven't bled enough for it to be over, which I am not sure I agree with. I didn't have any clots or tissue but it was early. My tenderness and pain has eased up but is still there and I am extremely exhausted after this whole ordeal. I am just so wanting this all to be over. Emotionally I go from numb one minute to extremely raw and in pain the next.</p>
 

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<p>that really really and truly sucks.  i hope you are able to get some resolution soon.  so sorry you are having to go through this.  the pregnancy loss is bad enough but the wondering is even worse.</p>
 

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<p>Well just wanted to update, Here is the short version (hah)</p>
<p>I went and got the blood work done and went to the doctors appointment. When the doctor came in he asked me how the pain was and i told him that it was still there so he examine my abdomen, realizing that I still had pain set down my chart said "let me call for the blood results" and left the room. He came back in and sad that after dropping for awhile my hcg levels went up. This was very obviously a sign of ectopic as this does not occur with miscarriages. Along with the 2 abnormal ultrasounds and my one sided pain he said he was pretty certain and recommended the methotrexate shot or surgery. But I breastfeed my son frequently and wanted to do a ton of research before making a decision so I decided to leave right then despite him telling me that It was at risk of rupturing anytime. When i got home dh and I had a really good talk about what to do. He was very upset and shocked as was I. We decided that since with the shot I couldnt give any of my milk to my son for days this was NOT an option for us and we were going to call the doctor in the morning to set up a time for surgery. This was not an easy decision. Then as I sat back down in my computer chair a severe excrusiating pain came over me and we rushed back to the emergency room. I was screaming and rithing in pain and they finally gave me a shot of morphine which barely took the edge off.  They then sent me back for an ultrasound and then we waited for my ob to come in a compare them and tell us what was going on. He came in and said that he had looked it over and that although he couldnt know until he opened me up with surgery he was pretty sure my tube had ruptured. I was very scared and shocked. He said there was a lot of fluid in my pelvis and he assumes its blood from the rupture. so they wheeled me back for surgery within 20 minutes. The next thing I know I am waking up in my room and dh is telling me that the surgery went well and that it was an ectopic that had ruptured my tube and they had to take part of my left tube out. Although I am devastated about our loss and the loss of my tube, I cant help but be so grateful that I am alive. This has been a crazy journey of maybes and buts and many many ups and downs but its all finally over and I can heal physically and emotionally. It will take us time to process and grieve all of this. I thought I would update in case someone who thinks they might be experiencing the same thing can seek out help before they are in a life threatening situation.</p>
 

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<p>That really sucks Mandee :-( I can't believe they didn't do anything with you having pain for that long and so many other symptoms in the past week. I'm sorry you had to lose your baby so traumatically and part of your tube as well <span><img alt="candle.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/candle.gif"></span><span><img alt="hug.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/hug.gif"></span></p>
 

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<p>I'm so sorry for your loss and traumatic experience. Ugh it sounds awful. <span><img alt="greensad.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/greensad.gif"></span> Wishing you a complete and speedy recovery. <span><img alt="hug2.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/hug2.gif"></span></p>
 

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<p>Oh my! I'm so sorry and angry that you did not receive better health 'care'. Best wishes for a speedy recovery. </p>
 
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