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I have to take my children in to get physicals because we are pursuing adoption. I took my 14 yo in for hers last week. I was dreading it because we stopped vaccinating in 2001 after my 4th child possibly had a neurological reaction to his 4 month vaccines. I was relieved to see that we had an older (very nice) doctor. I was thinking he wouldn't really recommend all these newer vaccines. Well, I was wrong! He told me she needed several vaccines and then I told him that there are some we don't want to do. I told him that since my 4th child had a reaction, I started researching and learning more about vaccines. He actually cautioned me against researching/reading!! He said that would only confuse me and that these vaccines are very safe and very important. I felt like it was the old days before the Reformation, when the church didn't want common people to read or interpret the Bible for themselves!!! I need to just trust my doctor and give my children everything they tell me too.<br><br>
Then he went on to tell me that he would HIGHLY recommend at least one vaccine. When he said HPV, I just about fell out of my chair! There is no way my girls (or boys) will ever get that vaccine and I couldn't believe this older dr. was so supportive of it. He said it is a very good vaccine and she should get it. I told him no that I didn't think it was safe. I told him I heard it was causing paralysis/deaths/als/fainting in girls. He didn't say anything except that he can't tell me what to do after that. I was pretty disappointed.<br><br>
On a side note, the nurse came in at the beginning and asked if we just moved here (we are military) and I said "no, we moved here about 1 1/2 years ago". She said she thought we just moved here because my husbands orders to here were still in my daughter's records. This means that my daughter has not been seen by their clinic since we have been here. She seemed shocked. I told her that she hasn't been sick, so we haven't come in. LOL<br><br>
Also, the immunizations team had to come in and talk to me. My 5th child is my only completely non immunized child...first 3 were vaccinated on schedule, 4th partially vaxed. They were telling me all the vaccines my kids need to be caught up. I knew more than they did. They were telling my 5th child would need 2-3 hib vaccines, and I knew he would only need one since he is over 18 months. They had to look things up in their books and then they would say "oh yeah, your right". They do this for a living!! I asked if hib isn't as common in the over 2 crowd and she said it is still as common, it just doesn't happen in the over 2 crowd or over 5 crowd because everyone is vaccinated!! I told one that my 5th unvaxed child has been very healthy so far and she said, "well, you are lucky, it could have easily gone the other way!"<br><br>
I still have 4 more physicals to do and I am so dreading it!! I am going to have my husband come in with me for moral support. They so look at you like you are such a bad parent. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">(<br><br>
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Wow! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> So sorry that happened to you. I'm glad you were able to stand your ground and even correct the immunization team that 's supposed to know all this. What a nurse too. Yeah I've been there. I don't do the wbv so when I brought my 9mo to his ped they were shocked that I hadn't been there. Well he wasn't sick before so no point in going yk. Anyway If your husband is on board with you I'd bring him along for support. Sending good vibes your way for the next visits.
 

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I'm so sorry for you! And yes, bring your hubbie to the appointments. And rehearse saying no thank you beforehand, and don't even bother engaging in any discussions. If they keep annoying you, I'd say I said no thank you, you are harassing me and I will have to file an ICE complaint.<br>
All military docs are totally pro every vaccine on the market. They will want you and your child to get every single shot there is.<br>
I had some issues with a ped in CA but stood my grounds and after 3 appointments he gave up on me. Now it's a NP on base and even DH was annoyed by the pushiness. We just didn't answer and kept changing the subject, hehehe. He said the funniest thing: oh he is over a year, so most vaccines aren't important for him (aha!) but I really recommend the flu shot, it's the MOSt important one. SERIOUSLY????
 

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Then, lady, you need to get outta the vax forum immediately before we all start to mess with your pretty little head! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
Seriously, though, how patronizing! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked"> Sorry, mama!
 

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I am so sorry. Since they had such bad info, at least you know that you can't trust any info they give you about vaccines. My DH and I decided to do a few well-child visits to establish a medical record in order to pursue adoption. We chose to never go together so that if we get really pressured to vaccinate, we can say that we have to discus it with the other parent and will make a follow up appointment.
 

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They have an "immunizations team"?
 

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The condecension never ceases to amaze me!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">
 

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@ Lily: Yup, all military clinics have an immunization clinic (barf at the title) with really grumpy people there and they get super defensive and aggressive when somebody doesn't want to have all vaccines, no vaccines or asks questions. DO NOT ask questions are we will bite your hand off should be a warning sign there.
 

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WOW @ not researching because you'll "get confused." I would want to throw down after that comment.<br><br>
WOW @ having an immunization team! I can imagine their work consists of regurgitating the CDC's recommendations without question. How sad for them.
 

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Sorry to hear they gave you such a hard time, Mamma. The only advice I can give you is to come in knowing exactly what you want with every vaccine. Don't ask questions. Just tell them how it's going to be. You are the parent, and it's not their decision. Our ped was decently understanding. I gave her a list of every vaccine that they offer and stated if and when or under what circumstances we would want it and why. They put a copy in DD's chart. I'm under no pressure to sign a "bad mommy form," and we have the perfect evidence for a lawsuit if they ever give DD a vaccine that we didn't ask for. If they view you as "undecided" about anything, that gives them reason to believe that they could be successful in convincing you. I know, in a perfect world, our pediatricians would be people that we could trust to give an honest, educated opinion that we could respect and then make our own decisions. Unfortunately, it's not like that most times when it comes to vaccines. We have to go elsewhere to get the information we want to make our own decisions.
 
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