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hi<br><br>
...we'll be moving from paris to new haven in July and I'm looking for some information on natural birth or homebirth in the new haven area<br><br>
indeed I should be pregnant by the summer ;-) but I feel somewhat frightened by the perspective of giving birth in the ultra-medicalized yale-new haven hospital (as "Yalees", this hospital is likely to be imposed by our health-plans)<br><br>
so I am looking for some alternative solutions....<br><br>
are there midwives who practice independently but also have access to the YNHH?<br>
how is the YNHH midwives' team?<br><br>
an other option would be the Danbury birth center, but it is too far...;-(
 

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there is a CNM practice out of madison, Birth&Beyond, that does homebirths and hospital births at yale.<br>
check out this site-<br><a href="http://www.ufmidwiferycare.freeservers.com" target="_blank">http://www.ufmidwiferycare.freeservers.com</a><br>
it has a page listing almost all of the homebirth midwives in the state, including Birth&Beyond (listed under Saraswathi Vedam, i think).<br>
good luck in your search! and good luck getting preggo too! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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hi clovergirl,<br><br>
thank you so much for your help, i'm so happy to see that there seems to be a solution!!<br><br>
do you have any idea of the approach of the midwives team in YNHH?<br>
....indeed, if it is posible to be followed by her (or someone having the same kind of approach) in the YNHH, then the homebirth option would not be so crucial : a birth at YNHH is 100% financed by our healthplan so if i can be sure that i can have a respected birth even in YNHH then it 's ok for me: not as perfect as homebirth, of course, but so much more affordable for us students...<br><br>
of course i'll try to find out how much a homebirth with SV would cost, as she is yale-affiliated, there might be a solution to have it taken in charge by the Yale health-plan...<br><br>
anyway, thanks again for this information<br><br>
....now i just have to get pregnant ;-))<br><br>
isabelle
 

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Isabelle, I was exactly in your predicament this time last year. Needless to say, my move to New Haven was smooth and Saras was incredible. I have a healthy baby girl who was born at home.<br><br>
I'd be happy to tell you more. I learned a lot about the process here in New Haven. I couldn't have been happier with my decision to have Saras be my midwife. She is so knowledgable and a true asset to the profession. She is on faculty at the nursing school and does admit to YNHH. They don't allow tubs, though, which was my beef with the hospital.
 

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thank you so much for your answer!!<br><br>
i am very happy to see that you were very satisfied with your choice? congrats for your daughter!!!<br><br>
are you also a yale student ? (then i might have some questions about how the Yale Health Plan is compatible with such a birth, also about the cost etc...)<br><br>
of course i would *love* to get more info, thank you again:<br><br>
i particularly look for some info on these precise points<br><br>
*is homebirth well accepted in new haven and within the Yale community?<br>
in paris, it's seen as a very strange choice, so i'm used to be stared at as if i were odd with my homebirth plans....;-))<br>
but i hope things are different in new haven; when we came in March to visit the campus, i was very pleased to see on grad hill (neer grad housing residences) some little adds for a CNM practice: does this really mean something or is homebirth still a very isolated approach?<br><br>
*how is the YNHH?<br>
how independant are the midwives there?<br><br>
if you're not confortable with writing all this here ('maybe very personal, i don't know how you feel about it...) i can give you my email, feel free to ask, ok?<br><br>
isabelle<br><br>
ps; sorry for my English, i know it doesn't sound very idiomatic, but i hope you can still understand me...?..?..?
 

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I used Sue ******. She had a practice right near the hospital. This was two yeares ago.<br><br>
I went to deliver at Yale ready to do battle because my first child's birth was a traumatic hospitalized mess. With my second, I arrived with a chip on my shoulder and I really had no problems or complaints about the hospital. I was very surprised that they pretty much left me alone.<br><br>
My friend delivered at the birth center in Danbury even though she lived in New Haven.
 

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I used Keli Sorrentino, who's an independent MW in West Haven. She also works part-time at Yale Medical School, and knows some of the staff at YNHH. Highly recommend her -- she was great! She's also listed on the UF Midwifery link on the post from Clovergirl.<br><br>
I ended up going to YNHH with a preemie birth at 31 weeks and every intervention including c-section. The staff let Keli stay in the room with DH and me the whole time, including the operation. Everyone tried to work with us on as few interventions as possible (the doc even let me rest through contractions when I could to try to avoid an epidural -- no such luck, though), and explained everything when we asked. As good an experience as one could have under the circumstances.<br><br>
HTH,<br><br>
JA and DD Sofia, 17 mos
 

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i particularly look for some info on these precise points<br><br>
*is homebirth well accepted in new haven and within the Yale community?<br>
in paris, it's seen as a very strange choice, so i'm used to be stared at as if i were odd with my homebirth plans....;-))<br>
but i hope things are different in new haven; when we came in March to visit the campus, i was very pleased to see on grad hill (neer grad housing residences) some little adds for a CNM practice: does this really mean something or is homebirth still a very isolated approach?<br><br>
*how is the YNHH?<br>
how independant are the midwives there?<br></b></td>
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I don't get the feeling that the New Haven area is a mecca for homebirth, but it definitely does exist. The Yale community that I am afiliated with, well, they are all quite intriqued that I had a homebirth but it doesn't seem that anyone else I know is going that route. You won't be isolated if you choose homebirth though. From what I know, YNHH is a lot less progressive than it was 20 years ago. They pioneered rooming in, but now they seem to be more conservative. I went on a tour of the l&d rooms there, and while they seemed nice, they do not allow you to rent a tub to bring in. They only have showers. Apparantely the water pressure is poor. This is why I chose to have a homebirth. I asked why they don't allow tubs and was told that a few years ago a rented tub leaked and the docs were unhappy.<br><br>
They have a new leadership in OB now, so perhaps things will begin to change.<br><br>
There is only one CNM in CT that does homebirth though you could also use a direct-entry midwife.<br><br>
PM me if you want more info, I could help you out with some other details.
 

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hello girls and thank you for your answers!!<br><br>
bklyngirl and soniabugmom: so YNHH seems to be quite acceptable, of course not as satisfying i guess as a homebirth, but i think i could cope with should complications arise<br>
accepting the MD is definitely a good point ...that surprises me ina very positive way!!<br>
also thanks for giving me MW's names!!<br><br>
rachel;<br>
it's a pity that YNHH has become less progressive; but even though it remains far more acceptable to me than what i see and hear as regards Parisian hospital (except for one or 2 exceptions it's very difficult to have a respected birth, birth plans are stared at with despise and irony, when the staff does not threatens you with refusing to take you in charge)<br>
so it seems to be a pretty acceptable back-up<br>
butof course i keep considering in first intention the homebirth option<br><br>
so i pm you;-)<br><br>
thanks again<br>
isabelle
 

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Hi and welcome (soon) to New Haven. I had my child at YNHH about 3 years ago, and was really impressed. My midwife (believe it or not, I totally am blanking on her name, I could go look it up, Oh yeah, Linda Lisk, that's it.) was awesome. I had a really long prodromal labor and when we got to the hospital, I was only 3 cm dilated after a couple of days of quite painful, hard labour pain. I actuallyasked-no, begged for an epidural. She coaxed me through it, did some awesome visualization, and was really there for me. I didnt get my epidural, but that's what my original goal was, so Im glad. I did labour/deliver in a seperate room from where I stayed, and it wasnt as awesome as the experience with my second child, BUT, it was very non interventionist and probably pretty amazing, considering what others have related with their births. So YNHH is good, if you have a good team on your side. Good luck, and if you want any other info, feel free to pm me. Happy fertility vibes!
 

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Hi all,<br><br>
I wanted to say that I've lived here in New Haven for 15 years and have had all my three children here, and have found the doctors at YNNh to be completely open to helping you have whatever birth experience you desire.<br><br>
Isabelle, (sorry if I mispelled your name; I don't have your message up on the screen right now) you might be interested in knowing about the Children's Cooperative Daycare, which we were members of for 7 years and plan to join again when our 6 month old is walking and has passed his first birthday. It is a wonderful place to meet the kind of parents that it sounds like you want to be--several of the women I knew had had home births; one was a midwife; most wanted natural childbirth at least. Even if you only wanted to come in with your child and play with him/her there, and don't actually need Daycare, it's a wonderful community, and very international.<br><br>
I myself was always terrified of giving birth anywhere but in a hospital, but I was the strange bird of the group!<br><br>
I'm an Italian teacher at Yale. Maybe we'll meet sometime after you move!<br><br>
Kathleen E.
 

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My two cents on the matter.<br>
The homebirth scene in New Haven is definitely present and growing. Just tricky to find! Saras also caught my baby at home and it was truly amazing. I also am a OB nurse at Yale New Haven Hospital and would recommend Saras (she also has admitting privileges), Sue ******, Linda Lisk and Deb Cibelli. The other three are all hospital midwives but practice in the true midwifery model. I'm very in touch with hospital, local politics and would be happy to give you lots more info if you want - just pm me!
 

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ali, katleen ang glittergal, thank you for answering so kindly!!<br><br>
what all of you three say seems pretty encouraging as regards hospital births in YNHH, i'm impressed!!<br><br>
glittergal, I might have some questions, I would PM you then, thanks!!<br><br>
ali, so you had *your* midwife?<br>
seems that when you are followed by the midwives'team, you have had one referent midwives who exclusively follows you...is that right?<br><br>
katleen, I'm very happy to meet someone from the Yale community, it'd be great to meet you sometime!<br>
your 3 good births in YNNH ring encouraging to me!<br>
thak you also for the Children's Cooperative Daycare, so there are people like me within the Yale Community, wouw, that's cool, I was afraid I would be maybe not the only one, but a strange bird;-))<br>
did I tell you girls that I had left a thread on the Yale spouses and partners website and had *no answer at all*? I thought maybe I had shocked them but in fact, there seems to be little trafic out there, so maybe that's why;-)) ??<br><br>
glittergal,<br>
another member of the Yale community, how great!!<br>
and; what's more, you're also a OB nurse at Yale New Haven Hospital, waouw!!<br>
I really appreciate to have a 'big picture' from an insider:sure I will PM you!!<br><br>
I have a more general question, so I ask it here: what does 'admit' mean for a midwife?<br>
when you said saras admits, does it mean that she can still remain in charge of her patient if a homebirth 'fails' and has to be transfered to YNHH: or does it mean that she can follow her own patients directly and exclusively in YNHH from the very beginning to the delivery?<br><br>
thank you also for the 3 names of members of the YNHH team who practice in the true midwifery model, it really helps!!<br><br>
in a next post, when I have more time, I'll ask you about community life here in New Haven...<br>
I'm so excited about arriving this summer...<br><br>
Isabelle
 

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Isabelle - Admitting priviledges for a midwife mean that they can admit their patient to the hospital and manage the birth there, just like an OB can. It's an added bonus if they have admitting priviledges and you're doing a home birth, because if you need to transfer to the hospital, then obviously there's a medical need and something that can't be done at home. Maybe it's just pitocin you need. Well, the midwife can administer that. But if you need an epidural than obviously you'd need an anesthesiologist - but if your midwife has admitting privs., then more likely than not she'll be able to be very much involved in managing your care in the hospital.<br><br>
So - it's good because they already know the "system" if they have privs. to admit in the hospital.<br><br>
There are definitely AP parents in New Haven. There is LLL (La Leche League). I have seen some slings around town (myself not included - at least for now it's not working well for me).<br><br>
When we came into the Yale community we got a brochure about some parents organization - but it didn't seem to be too enlightening for me. I think you have to seek out the good stuff on your own.<br><br>
Isabelle - feel free to PM me with any further questions!
 

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Isabelle,<br>
I had Deb Cibelli and Linda Lisk and actually bonded more with Deb, but when the birth time came, Linda was awesome. They are very New England, down to earth, not very over friendly, but when it was time, I was very impressed. I have heard very good things about Saras.<br>
As for AP, it exists. From my friends who are grad students, I get the vibe that most are not into it. But I have also found that I make friends with people who arent "AP" and they tend to be more open minded than the "AP" people. This is just in general. Like if I do something differently, it's ok, but we hang out more with the kids and I dont discuss my philosophies and we get along fine. (Kinda like religion, or politics!!) but there are definitely good AP people around. Even amongst my ap friends, I have disagreed. So I'm sure you'll find friends, even if they arent totally in agreement with all your parenting philosophies. Good luck.
 

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oh girls i'm sorry with the midterms, the holidays... i haven't answered yet;-(<br>
still i was very pleased to get your answers, it's a pity, i hope it's not too late and you have not forgotten this thread....?<br><br>
well, i think that i've been at least as deep on the subject as is possible from a distance, now i have some much clearer ideas about birth in the new haven area, thanks to all of you !!<br>
i think it'll be more concrete in july;-))<br><br>
rachel and alie, thanks to both of you for the info about the grad community and midwives!<br><br>
*rachel, your explanations about admitting priviledges for a midwife were very clear!<br>
i will PM should more precise questions arise...<br><br>
*alie, so i also keep Deb and Linda in mind ;-)<br><br>
regarding AP and its frequency among grad students: well, it's not that i only want to see people who share my conception of child and parenting, it's just that i would be happy no to be stared at as an odd bird (like here in paris), so what you and rachel say seems to be quite close: there *is *AP in new haven, not precisely much among the grad community, but there are some AP communities not too far, i think i should be ok with that ;-))<br><br><br>
thanks again,<br>
isabelle
 

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Hi Isabelle,<br><br>
Just one more tip about places to find like-minded parents. There is a huge Unitarian Universalist community here--not the New Haven branch, but the Hamden one (only about 2 miles from Yale). It welcomes people of all faiths/denominations. There is an attachment parenting playgoup/support group there. At the moment it meets on Mondays (so I can't go because I work mornings, boo hoo) but there are other activities as well designed to help moms get to know each other.<br><br>
Kathleen
 

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thanks kathleen, here is some *very* useful info!!<br><br>
also thank you for telling me what UU means : i must confess that i had already met that expression here on the mothering board but so far i hadn't dared to ask...<br>
now i have a much better idea!<br>
so i feel sorry for the monday meetings you miss, they seem attractive!<br><br>
well i'm very glad to see that there definitely *are* AP groups/support groups here in the new haven area!!<br><br>
i have one more little question:<br>
did you girls use a birth or post partum doula?<br>
i was also considering that idea (although i think a great midwife is already much, if not enough- but i may be wrong...?? in fact we are especially considering post-partum doulas) and i found the CT doula network (<a href="http://www.ctdoula.com" target="_blank">http://www.ctdoula.com</a>), does anyone know about them/ one of them?<br><br>
well, that's it, now i think i have quite an idea of what's the birth-'market' (?) like in new haven,<br><br>
THANK YOU AGAIN!!<br><br>
isabelle
 

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rachel,<br><br>
i've just found your PM, woups, sounds like it's already pretty old (december), it's a pity, in fact i didn't know where to find the PMs on the board...<br>
anyway i hope it's not too late, i'm writing a loooooooong answer ;-) ...via the PM system, this time ;-)<br>
isabelle
 

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Griffin Hospital is in Derby right off route 34 from New Haven it would take about 20 minutes. Griffin Hospital was very supportive, small, clean and home-like. They do have a hot tub with jets, warm rice socks for cramping backs, thera-ball, music in every room. You birth and stay in the same room - no extra transporting around if all is going well. One nurse throughout the delivery. The birthing center is online - it is a far cry from homebirth but it is an option to consider.
 
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