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I felt you ladies would be among the FEW who didn't chant surgery at me.<br><br>
DP has a vas while I was preg with our last, I was OK with it at the time (a 76lbs weight gain with severe SPD will do that to a woman<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> I would have agreed to castration at that point)<br><br>
anyhow fast forward about two years, I'm loving life as a mom and see no reason for waiting...except this stupidly self induced infertility.<br><br>
WWTD if you had the same situation yet you BOTH now wanted more of your own children?<br><br>
Do you think it's possible to simply will healing in this circumstances? What sort of herbs or treatments would you use?
 

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If the vasectomy was done properly and he was tested sterile post-op, the chances are miniscule. Sorry. If you do decide to go the surgical route, my husband had a reversal if you have questions about it.
 

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I totally feel you! DH and I said we didn't want kids and i had my tubes ties 5 years aog. We didn't have children. We now have a 4 month old son and are LOVING IT! I said I was ready for another on the table! I still feel that way! DH...he's a little skidish yet<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> BUT we have talked about another and are worried that however DS happened to come about may have been a fluke. When we are ready to try again, my Dr. said they would give us a few months of trying on our own, then do a dye test to see what's open or not.<br><br><br>
So I hope you figure out a way to make it happen<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> From one hopeful Mama to another!<br><br>
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I think that a reversal of the vasectomy is your best option. As far as I know, they are more expensive than the vasectomy.
 

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Depending on how they do the Vas. There is very little chance of it healing on its own no matter what you do.<br><br>
With dh the urologist not only cut and tied the tubes but he cut a 1 inch piece out burnt the ends as well. It would take a miracle for dh to ever father children again without surgery.<br><br>
I think most of the V's are done this way now.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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Right and they aren't covered by insurance. His vas was too complicated. there was bleeding and a secondary infection and he ruined all my frozen vegggies by sleeping with them on his beans for 8 weeks...not going through that again!<br><br>
A "clear" sample doesn't mean there are no sperm. It could, but it typically means there are so few it doen't mean anything. Right now we are trying to boost numbers with nutritional suppliments<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> sounds so ridiculous but I know if anyone can willfully get pregnant this way.... it'll be us.<br><br>
a perfect vas still has a 1:2000 failure rate (and those are of the people that actually report back) I guess a chance is all I need.<br><br>
we did the no scapel method.
 

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You might consider adoption. I know that doesn't come with all the great pregnancy stuff, but we have several adopted members of our extended family, and they are well loved! Good luck to you!
 

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We did it and had three more children. They are very expensive and not covered in patient. A doc in Jersey does it in office with microsurgical technique he pioneered. Much cheaper and greater rates of success. PM for more info.
 

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I just wanted to say I know absolutely nothing at all about this topic... but he still produces sperm right? so couldnt a doctor harvest some from him in some way?<br>
might not be the most pleasent thing, but.... it would probably work a lot better (and faster) than nutritional suppliments?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I just wanted to say I know absolutely nothing at all about this topic... but he still produces sperm right? so couldnt a doctor harvest some from him in some way?</div>
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We actually researched this because it seemed logical, but they're not able to get sperm in large enough numbers for artificial insemination- only in vitro, and even that's iffy depending on the age of the vasectomy.<br><br>
No insurance that I know of covers reversals; we went out of state for ours to get it done more cheaply and it cost $10K or so all told.
 

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all true.<br><br>
I did catch my insurance on this and IF we can prove it is being done for pain relief we can get it covered.<br><br>
He <b>HAD</b> pain for about a year and a half, pretty severe but it's recently gone down in intensity and now it's unpredictable.<br><br>
He also the worst liar on earth (it's why I married him) but it's just too invasive to ask of him.<br><br>
funny thing is that he read this thread and now wants to do the surgery. Those that have a moment, how bad was it? We had such a time with recovery last time but I think most of that was due to the dr. (he kept dropping the thing and then had to go back 6 times and dig it out again)<br><br>
shoot look how quickly I can change my mind.
 

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Just let this be a warning to the mamas that think they are done<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
There is no such thing when you love birth.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">funny thing is that he read this thread and now wants to do the surgery. Those that have a moment, how bad was it? We had such a time with recovery last time but I think most of that was due to the dr.</div>
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I hate to say it, but it's bad. Much worse than the vasectomy. The surgery took something like 5 hours.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Just let this be a warning to the mamas that think they are done<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"></div>
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We thought very carefully about the vasectomy, deciding that no matter what we wouldn't have another given how awful my pregnancies are- but things sure can change. Even now, when neither of us can imagine going through having another, I won't let my husband get a vasectomy again because I know how things can change- I might decide to have another kid seven years from now! But nothing would have dissuaded us back when we did it- after all, we were 27 and knew everything- so I don't think warnings help....
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Just let this be a warning to the mamas that think they are done<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
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While I feel for you and hope your situation works out for the best, the above statement is condescending.<br><br>
Birth was the most physically challenging, painful and exhilarating thing I've ever been through. I've never been more proud of myself than after giving birth. But there most certainly is such a thing as being done - and knowing it for certain. Birth is not all there is to having children. I know how many I'm capable of raising and I don't just "think" I'm done. I know it. (Especially at 41). That's why we chose the V.<br><br>
Best of luck to you.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">While I feel for you and hope your situation works out for the best, the above statement is condescending.</div>
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Please explain how it is condecending <b>to you</b>. I didn't seek you out and say it <b>to you</b> you have never added anything to this thread so I'm confused by your comment.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I hate to say it, but it's bad. Much worse than the vasectomy. The surgery took something like 5 hours.</div>
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I appreciate knowing it.
 

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without sounding like a downer i did some clinical time for my degree in an infertility office for about 6 months. my preceptor analyzed sperm of men who had had vas reversal and the sperm counts were still very low and the the sperm that were present was not properly shaped to move they way they needed to to get to the egg and penetrate it. i wish you the best
 

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my dh had a reversal in Sept 2005. It was the micro procedure, don't waste time or money with anything else. The surgery took about 2 hours. Our ds was concieved in Novmeber. Age is a huge factor, also how old the vas is.
 
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