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Hey ladies.. I know all the men Dr's recommended at Cedars Sinai.. But are their any women Dr's OB/GYN you recommend that are okay with birthing naturally?? Or can you recommend a GREAT doula in Los Angles?? I might have to stay with my OB/GYN bc of my insurance and she is NOT too into natural birth but If I can find an Awesome Doula than I can still have a Natural birth and a wonderful experience.<br>
Any sugggestion PLEEZE!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br>
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I'm really loving our doula. We haven't had our birth yet ;-) but we're totally on the same page about everything. She's attended over 300 births, and knows every doctor and hospital (and a good number of the nurses) all over Los Angeles. her name is Tracy Hartley and her website is <a href="http://bestdoulas.com/" target="_blank">http://bestdoulas.com/</a>. She's NOT cheap... but there's a few discounts you can get that can knock a couple hundred off the price. She also works with other doulas that have lower rates, if she's out of your price range.<br><br>
Oh, and she's a hypno-doula too. ;-)<br><br>
ETA: Is there any reason besides location that you want a Dr. who delivers at Cedars? Personally, I wouldn't pick a Cedars birth for *anything*. I had my son at UCLA Westwood, which isn't too far from Cedars and has much less arcane policies about labor and birth. I used to recommend the heck out of the CNM practice at UCLA, but the atmosphere there seems to have changed quite a bit... still, if you find an OB you like that delivers there, the LD/PP policies and nursing staff don't seem to be any different. The new hospital is supposed to open up this summer or so, too (though it's been delayed so many times, and there's no official statement giving a new opening date... most recent I saw was a press release from last June saying 9-12 months).
 

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Thank you so much for all that great info.. Ironica. I don't have to give birth at Cedars. I guess i wanted to bc I am most familiar with it, gave birth to my son there and live closer to it. I know midwives aren't alowed to deliver there yet too. I was thinking of getting a midwife at UCLA. Do they accept most PPO insurances though? I would definitely prefer a midwife. Were you recommending UCLA..?? I couldn't quite tell or not.<br><br>
I would LOVE a hypno-doula actually.. we did hypnobirthing with my first baby but unfortunately I didn't hire a doula and everything my hubbbie learned went straight out the window.. he was sooo nervous. So, I ended up with an epidural<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> and pushing for 4 hours bc I couldn't feel a thing. I want to make sure I have a totally different experience this time.<br>
How much abouts does Doula tracy charge?? I am willing to pay anything to get the RIGHT doula.. If I can't get a midwife.. you think I'd be alright with my new OB and your doula?? or do you think you definitely have to have a midwife/doula team?? thans<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">
 

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I would recommend UCLA over Cedars as a place to birth. I would NOT recommend the midwives at UCLA (anymore). They were going to transfer my care to an MD because I declined the GTT... but *only* because I was a VBAC, apparently. What a uterine scar has to do with my blood sugar level was never, ever made clear to my satisfaction. (BTW, I wasn't just flat-out ignoring the issue of gestational diabetes, either... I elected to check my blood sugar on my own rather than drink the nasty syrup is all.)<br><br>
I'm now with Dr. Dwight at Good Samaritan, and while we haven't had our birth yet ;-), I'm feeling much, much better taken care of. His attitude is 100% that he is an *advisor*, and so long as we're making informed decisions, they're our decisions to make. He has his limitations (one example was a couple declining a section with a double-footling breech, which he did NOT feel safe delivering vaginally), but was quite comfortable with my decision about the GTT, as well as letting us decline antibiotics had I been GBS+. Also, even though I'm a VBAC, he doesn't think continuous EFM is a desirable thing. Drives the nurses nuts, apparently, but they're mad at him, not the patient. ;-)<br><br>
Tracy's fee is $1700. Like I said, she has some discounts available though. You get $100 off if you pay in full at least a month before your EDD, for example. Also, she does some refunds/credits if your labor is particularly short, if you end up scheduling a surgical birth, etc. She also has a large back-up team, so there's no chance you'll be left hanging without someone. Other doulas she works with charge less... I think the practice starts at $400 at the lowest end. And she does an initial consult at no charge, of course.
 

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Another thumbs-up for Dr. Dwight. My doula (and my Bradley instructor, too, come to think of it!) claims that he's the BEST in L.A. I have to agree.<br>
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Does anyone know of any WOMEN doctors who support Natural Birth in LA? Dr. Dwight sounds great but he is a male and neither I nor my Hubbie are comfortable with one. That's why i am only interested in Women Drs.<br><br>
Tracy (the Doula) sounds great. The price doesn't really matter to me.. I just want a Great Doula abd I will pay more if neccessary. I have to have a doula bc my hubbie, bless his heart, is a complete nervous wreck when I am in labor <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> I am def. going to interview her.. Thanks so much for all your help!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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Well, Dr. Dwight shares his practice with Dr. Margaret Bates, who I've heard good things about too.... but the catch is, last I knew, she does NOT take insurance.<br><br>
Depending on what kind of insurance you have, you might be able to get reimbursement for seeing her, but probably only at out-of-network rates.
 

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I highly recommend Dr. Rebecca Perlow.<br><br><a href="http://www.drperlow.com/drperlow/" target="_blank">http://www.drperlow.com/drperlow/</a><br><br>
Here is a link with some other supportive docs...<br><br><a href="http://www.supportedbirth.com/resources.htm" target="_blank">http://www.supportedbirth.com/resources.htm</a><br><br>
Kim Matthews is a fantastic doula...<br><br><a href="http://www.avdoula.com/" target="_blank">http://www.avdoula.com/</a><br><br>
Octavia Lindlahr is a great doula too...<br><br><a href="http://www.sacredmotherdoula.com/" target="_blank">http://www.sacredmotherdoula.com/</a>
 

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I am going to give birth with the midwifes at UCLA and I am very impressed so far (not to contradict what the wise Ironica has said) but am just having a really good experience so far and both my fiance and I are really happy we chose to birth there.<br>
I am like you and prefer women docs in general and wanted a midwife if possible- so of course the midwifes are all women- very experienced and so caring and they are backed by OBs which do include female docs.<br>
I had my bloodwork come back as showing elevated thyroid levels and the midwifes had me referred to an excellent endocrinologist (female doc) who got me in right away, did the proper tests and then got me straightened out on hormones.<br>
I had to meet with an OB from the midwifes' practice b/c that is their policy if you have any complications but they made sure I saw a female OB since I requested it (Dr. Janzen) and she was so lovely and warm and she ok'ed me to return to the midwifes' care since I am regularly seeing the endocrinologist for the rest of my pregnancy. She said I wouldn't see her again unless for some reason, I needed a c-section or anything like that.<br>
I love the special attention, the midwifes never double book anyone, I have never waited more than 5 minutes for an appt. and they take their time with you.<br>
I have all their numbers and emails and they have encouraged me to call/write with any concerns and I am going to do a Hypno Babies course to prepare me for the birth which will be unmedicated unless there is a complication.<br>
The new IM PEI designed hospital is opening in May and all of the post partum rooms are private.<br>
I feel good about my choice for me...it fits.<br>
I chose not to go to Cedars b/c I have had several friends give birth there and they really seem to be c-section happy there.<br>
My one pal had twins last month and she told me her OB straight up told her from finding this out, that he didn't do twins vaginally.<br>
She was ok with it. I would have immediately found another doctor upon hearing that.<br>
My other friend was treated sort of like a number and complained to me about how rushed she felt and pushed into a c-section.<br>
Anyway, I just wouldn't feel comfortable going with them and with me being over 35, I knew I wanted to be in a hospital and at UCLA, I feel like I can be safe and taken care of properly to relax and have the birth we want.
 

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I will say, Dr. Janzen did end up doing my c-section last time, and she did an AMAZING job. You can't hardly see the scar, and I've never had any adhesions. Everything's looked great on ultrasounds this pregnancy, too. And I healed very quickly!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I will say, Dr. Janzen did end up doing my c-section last time, and she did an AMAZING job. You can't hardly see the scar, and I've never had any adhesions. Everything's looked great on ultrasounds this pregnancy, too. And I healed very quickly!</div>
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Oh Ironica, this post has made my day<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/treehugger.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Treehugger">:.<br>
Thank you so much for posting about Dr. Janzen. This is my 1st so I worry about all the unknown possibilities of course and its good to know that aside from being a nice lady, she also has surgery skills.<br>
I would love to see your u/s and can't wait to hear about your labor experience this next month<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love">.<br>
Keep us posted!
 

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I have decided to Give birth as well with the midwives at UCLA... This is what i ultimately wanted all along.. to be in a Midwives care.. not an OB/GYN.. I have made my appointment thru Dr. Carla Janzen (I had to go thru an OB bc of ins.) but I will be only seeing the midwives unless there is a porblem. Thank you so much for all your help ladies..<br><br>
The more I thought about it. I was just too nervous to go back to Cedars.. such a horrible experience there the first time and had to go out of my network to find a "Natural" OB there that I figured might as well then go for a midwife.. I had 2 appointments with a DR. Jackson at Cedars and she was so rude.. I waited for over an hour for my 1st appt. and then 2 hours (with a toddler) for my 2nd appt.. and then she was doing an u/s and got a cellphone call and pulled the dopler so quickly out of me and then rushed to answer her call.... RUDE! On top of that told the caller she'd call them right back! I was like.. Geez.. if you went thru all that you might as well of taken the call.. She was so unprofessional and after waiting for two hours in the waiting room.. she left me for 20 minutes while I heard her chatting with the nurses.. so I am done with Ob/Gyn's in Network.. You just can't take a chance just to save a little money on something like birth.. you have to go with someone who cares and will honor your requests..<br>
Thank you so much ladies for helping me to make such an important choice.. next I have to hire a Doula.. Going to call the ones mentioned on this thread as well...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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Are there Birthing tubs at UCLA Hospital..?? And what is the new addition they are building that should be done by May? Was wondering, I'm sure I will find out when I go for my 1st appt but that's not for over a week.. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue">
 

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Not sure about birthing tubs but the new addition is a whole new hospital.<br>
Your CS experience sounds awful<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: sorry about that.<br>
Re. doulas, I am sure that they can recommend some that they work with. I was planning on asking them about that as my time got closer.<br>
Good luck<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love">!<br>
I have an appt. there on Tuesday myself- maybe I will see you there?
 

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I wish I was there on tuesday too.. They couldn't give me an appt. until the 15th!!! I hear the Midwives are in High demand. I am so excited though as I have talked to many women recently here that LOVE the midwives there and say they all had a wonderful natural birth experience.<br><br>
I just don't see why they wouldn't have birthing tubs as well.. in case we'd like to get in the water to ease labor... Hopefully the new addition will have it!!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue">
 

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I am currently seeing the midwives at UCLA. I am about as low-risk as pregnancies go (27, normal pre-preg weight, no GD, etc) and I have nothing but great things to say about all of the midwives. I think I have met all of them now. I especially like Ann (who is the head midwife) and Polly. They work as a team, so whomever is on call will deliver your baby. One of them is always in L&D at UCLA. I have had a very positive experience with my prenatal care there. I am currently 37 weeks so I will be delivering shortly.<br><br>
The new UCLA hospital is opening on May 4th. From what I know, all patients will be moved to the new hospital in one day (I think in the middle of the night). My due date is very close to the opening date so I might labor & deliver in either hospital--I hope not both! The new hospital has all private rooms but no bathtubs, just showers (I'm fairly certain of this). At the older hospital the L&D rooms are private and the recovery rooms are shared when space is needed. Again, only showers no bathtubs.<br><br>
I took a Bradley birthing class at Birth & Beyond in Santa Monica. This class was taught by Cheryl Baker who is also a doula and worked with an OB at Cedars for 10 or so years. So she is very familiar with Cedars but also all of the other hospitals on the Westside. They have a "Meet the Doulas" night once a month at Birth and Beyond where you can meet all of their doulas to get a feel for them. I would recommend that. I'm not using a doula since I feel the midwives already meet my needs but I would definitely consider Cheryl if I were.
 

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Thanks for the info on Cheryl Baker.<br>
I too feel very taken care of by the midwifes but if I change my mind, I will look her up.<br>
Polly is also who I had my 1st prenatal with- she is so nice!<br>
I have spoken/discussed things a few times on the phone with both Shadman and Kia and they seem great too.<br>
At my last appt. which was with Dr. Janzen, Ann came by to meet me and say hi.<br>
All in all, a lovely group of women.<br>
I feel very taken care of.<br>
Jen, if you give birth at the new hospital, please fill us in on how it is!<br>
I will definitely be making use of the showers when I go in- I do wish they had tubs though.
 

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Hey Ladies.. Thanks so much for all your help and advice. I found this very informative list of Midwives.. Birth Centers and the Dr's known to support natural Birth.. Hope this helps someone!<br><br><br><br>
Hospital Based Midwives<br><br>
UCLA Midwifery Associates (310) 825-5172<br><br>
California OB/GYN Services (310) 673-2647<br><br>
The Woman's Place Camarillo CA (805) 987-6807 <a href="http://www.thewomansplace.com" target="_blank">www.thewomansplace.com</a><br><br><br><br>
Birth Center, Home Birth Midwives<br><br>
Natural Birth & Women’s Assoc, Sherman Oaks<br>
Tonya Brooks, Dir. NBWA (818) 386-1082<br><br>
Ventura Birth Center, Ventura<br>
Sue Turner, Licensed Midwife<br>
Dawn Dana, Licensed Midwife (805) 667-2229<br><br>
Sunrise Birth Center, Ventura<br>
Karni Seymour-Brown (805) 648-2350<br><br>
South Coast Midwifery & Womens Health Care, Irvine<br>
Lorri Walker, CNM (949) 654-2727<br><br>
Home Birth Service, Studio City<br>
Leslie Stewart, CNM (818) 760-6541<br><br>
Birthing Women's Health<br>
Margo Kennedy, CNM; Nkem Ndefo, CNM (626) 683-9015<br><br>
Beach Cities Birth Service<br>
Mary Lou O’Brien,CNM (310) 376-5647 Los Angeles/South Bay<br><br>
The Whole Woman, Inc., Simi Valley<br>
Marcia McCulley, LM, NP (805)584-7092<br><br>
Diane van der Westhuizen, LM CPM<br><a href="http://www.westhomebirth.com" target="_blank">www.westhomebirth.com</a> (818) 913 0448<br><br>
Candace Leach, LM, CPM<br><a href="http://www.birthgoddess.com" target="_blank">www.birthgoddess.com</a> - 562-272-4541<br><br>
Sue Wolcott, ND LM RN<br><a href="http://www.shastamidwives.com" target="_blank">www.shastamidwives.com</a> - 562-334-5706<br><br><br>
Supportive Doctors<br>
Dr Paul Crane Cedars<br>
Dr Howard Mandel Cedars<br>
Dr Stuart Fischbein Cedars<br>
Dr David Kline Cedars<br>
Dr. David Ghozland Cedars<br>
Dr Suzanne Gilberg-Lenz Cedars<br>
UCLA Midwifery Associates UCLA Med Ctr<br>
Dr Karla Iacampo UCLA-Santa Monica / St Johns<br>
Dr Maria Otavi UCLA-Santa Monica / St Johns / Cedars<br>
Dr Mark Dwight Good Samaritan<br>
Dr Margaret Bates Good Samaritan<br>
Dr. Rebecca Perlow Encino-Tarzana Reg Med Ctr
 

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Just found out tonight that the construction plans for the new hospital were delayed. so UCLA won't have the new space by May 4. They'll know more by the end of the week, but maybe not by end of may, which is when I am due and I was hoping for a better place...<br><br>
the current space has no tubs, only showers in L&D and shared recovery, with two expensive privates.<br><br>
If anyone here has given birth there and liked it, I'd love to hear because I was kind of bummed by the tour (as I had loved my last experience at SMUCLA).
 

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Mami, I know my friend gave birth in Feb. there and it was a nice experience for her regardless of being in the current hospital.<br>
Hope that helps a bit...sorry you won't be able to be in the new hospital.<br>
Does the new hospital have tubs?
 
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