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WHY IN THE WORLD DOC did not mention the recent sensitivity study?? why didn't he say about the studies that cancer can grow on circ scar?? why in the world he was just doing blah blah while the pro-circ doctor was all about "studies and medical evidence"???
 

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Because those studies were not published or the research even conducted when that film was made. It must be at least ten years old. That was a very young looking Matt Lauer there.
 

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Wow yeah, I'll say. That was DEFINITELY before those studies were done.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Wow yeah, I'll say. That was DEFINITELY before those studies were done.</div>
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maybe you're right. unfortunalety the video's name on youtube is TODAYs show debate. would have been pretty aweful if someone watches and thinks it's true.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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I remember that airing. It was disappointing - but not surprising. Shoen's (and others') technique is to talk over and sprew pro-circ myths as quickly and as plentifully as possible, therefore getting them out there and putting anti-circ on the defensive. I may have taped this show but yes it definitely was at least 4 or 5 years ago.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I remember that airing. It was disappointing - but not surprising. Shoen's (and others') technique is to talk over and sprew pro-circ myths as quickly and as plentifully as possible, therefore getting them out there and putting anti-circ on the defensive. I may have taped this show but yes it definitely was at least 4 or 5 years ago.</div>
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Good thing this UA violation isn't head of AAP any more.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Is this UA violation still head of AAP?</div>
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Oh no. Not at all. In fact I don't think he's been on the AAP for more than 10 years. He is the main circumcisionist to be sure, he runs the medicirc.org site. In fact when the AAP issued it's guidelines in 1999 he wrote a scathing rebuke of them to the Journal of AAP which ended up in the letter to the editor's section or something. Go ahead a google him, he is quite the character. Actually, if you want to see him he is interviewed in the first 15 minutes or so of the Penn and Teller show.<br><br>
ETA: In fact I think they bounced him off the committee at one point but I have no direct evidence to back that up so it's anecdotal.
 

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That video was terrible and I don't see how it helped our cause. Schoen came across as knowing "facts" and seemed a much better speaker than Denniston. It was nice that Denniston did point out that the US is the only country that really promotes circing boys.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">He is the main circumcisionist to be sure, he runs the medicirc.org site.</div>
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I think Schoen is more than that..I think he is actually a circumfetishist...I think he gains pleasure out of circumcision...perhaps sexual pleasure...I mean for God/dess sake...the man wrote poetry about it!<br><br><a href="http://www.circumstitions.com/Schoens.html" target="_blank">Schoen's Poem</a> (beware...really sick and twisted - obviously procirc)
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">maybe you're right. unfortunalety the video's name on youtube is TODAYs show debate. would have been pretty aweful if someone watches and thinks it's true.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"></div>
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The Today show is a morning talk/news show on NBC. I think most people will realize it is very old.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I think Schoen is more than that..I think he is actually a circumfetishist...I think he gains pleasure out of circumcision...perhaps sexual pleasure...I mean for God/dess sake...the man wrote poetry about it!<br><br><a href="http://www.circumstitions.com/Schoens.html" target="_blank">Schoen's Poem</a> (beware...really sick and twisted - obviously procirc)</div>
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OMFG!!! :puke<br>
he definitly IS circumfetishist...what a pervert!<br>
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